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    005 Interview: Ian Urbina, Lex Rigby, Pete Paxton Investigators and Reporters on Life at Sea

    enMarch 12, 2021
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    About this Episode

    This episode was recorded as part of our monthly, live Sentient Sessions series. Watch the recording on our YouTube

    Meet the Speakers:

    Ian Urbina, Investigative Reporter, Pulitzer Prize winner, and Director of The Outlaw Ocean Project

    The Outlaw Ocean Project is a non-profit journalism organization based in Washington, D.C., that focuses on reporting about environmental and human rights crimes at sea.

    Ian is also author of The Outlaw Ocean series was originally published in The New York Times, where Ian Urbina (See: Wikipedia) has been an investigative reporter for over two decades. Several of his stories have been adapted into major feature films, including The Outlaw Ocean which was purchased by Netflix and Leonardo DiCaprio.

    During his career, Ian has won a Pulitzer Prize for Breaking News, a George Polk Award for Foreign Reporting, and his work has been nominated for an Emmy Award. He has degrees in history and cultural anthropology from Georgetown University and the University of Chicago. Before joining The Times, he was a Fulbright Fellow in Cuba and he also wrote about the Middle East and Africa for various outlets including the Los Angeles Times, Harper’s and Vanity Fair. He lives in Washington D.C. with his family.

    The Outlaw Ocean reporting, almost all done offshore, took Ian across 5 seas and 14 countries in Africa, Asia, the Mediterranean, South America, and the Middle East. It resulted in 8 front-page stories in The New York Times and a book published by Knopf Doubleday. While reporting for the book, Ian was joined by an award-winning photographer from Brazil named Fábio Nascimento.

    Lex Rigby, Head of Investigations at Viva!

    After more than a decade campaigning to defend, conserve and protect marine wildlife, Lex joined the vegan campaigning charity Viva! in 2018.

    As Head of Investigations, Lex is responsible for coordinating, conducting, and delivering key investigations to support Viva!'s ground-breaking campaigns.

    Her investigations have been covered in the press many times:

    Three illegal fishing trawlers arrested following night raid

    Captain deliberately sank illegal fishing vessel

    Imagine living in a cage filled with millions of tiny parasitic sea lice

    With Sea Shepherd she participated in three whale defence campaigns in Antarctica and four anti-poaching campaigns from the Southern Ocean to the North Sea, including Operation Icefish (which Ian Urbina wrote about in the New York Times).

    Pete Paxton, Undercover Investigator

    Pete Paxton has been doing animal cruelty investigations since 2001, uncovering abuse at puppy mills, factory farms, slaughterhouses, commercial fishing boats, and pet stores. He has worked in the US, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, India, and Philippines, finding and training investigators in several countries.

    His work has been covered in the HBO documentaries Dealing Dogs and Death on a Factory Farm, and the Nat Geo documentary Animal Undercover. He is the author of Rescue Dogs, and has been awarded a Coin of Excellence from the US Attorney’s Office of Arkansas for his role as an undercover investigator to help shut down a seller of dogs and cats to research labs.

    Much of Pete’s work has involved working undercover for weeks or months as facilities, enabling Pete to understand the plight of undocumented immigrants exploited in agriculture, and the factors amongst all commercial animal operations that lead to predictable criminal behavior.

    About Sentient Media

    All proceeds from this event go directly into funding Sentient Media.

    Sentient Media is a nonprofit media organization that produces independent reporting on farmed animal lives and our broken food system.

    Our mission is to increase public awareness of key issues that matter to all of us: the treatment and well-being of all sentient beings and the health of our planet.

    We believe exposure is the first step toward behavioral change. That’s why we bring together journalists, digital marketing, and tech expertise to reach a diverse audience.

    In 2020, our animal-related content reached over 1 million readers, with over 25 million first page impressions on Google, 250 articles published on Sentient Media and 72 articles placed in outside media including The Guardian, USA Today, WIRED, NY Daily News, Citizen Truth, The Times, and more.

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