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    #088 - Nat Eliason - The Five Best Books You've Never Read

    enJuly 25, 2019

    Podcast Summary

    • From Interview-style to Book DiscussionsNat Eliason transformed his podcast from interview-style to book discussions, recognizing the demand for in-depth analysis and key takeaways from complex books, leading to increased listener engagement.

      Nat Eliason, the host of the Made You Think podcast and founder of growthmachine.com, transformed his interview-style podcast, NatChat, into a unique show based on book summaries and discussions. The concept for Made You Think emerged when Nat and his friend had an in-depth conversation about a book, leading to the realization that there was a demand for in-depth discussions on challenging reads. The interview-style format was no longer exciting for Nat, and he saw an opportunity to provide value by summarizing and discussing complex books. This shift resulted in increased engagement from listeners, as they appreciated the in-depth analysis and key takeaways that Nat and his guests provided.

    • The joy of reading and note-taking complex booksActive reading and effective note-taking enhance book value and create a sense of accomplishment. Strategic methods like progressive summarization can help consolidate and organize notes for future use.

      Effective reading and note-taking can enhance the value of books and create a satisfying sense of accomplishment, much like completing a marathon. The speaker shares his experience of reading and discussing complex books, such as Infinite Jest, and the joy of working through challenging material with friends. He also discusses his approach to progressive summarization, a method for consolidating and making notes more useful, which involves strategic reading, highlighting, and exporting Kindle highlights to Evernote using a tool called Readwise. The speaker emphasizes the importance of Tiago Forte's productivity work and his invention of the progressive summarization method. He also mentions his preference for reading nonfiction with a strategic mindset and the value of consolidating and organizing notes for future reference. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of active reading, effective note-taking, and the satisfaction of gaining knowledge and insights from challenging texts.

    • Annotating notes for better comprehension and retrievalEffectively summarize and annotate notes for quick and easy reference by adding section titles, chapters, bolding important parts, and creating executive summaries.

      Effective note-taking involves more than just highlighting text in a book or article. The speaker describes a method called "progressive summarization," which involves adding layers of annotation to your notes to make them more useful and easier to skim through later. This includes adding section titles, chapters, and bolding the most important parts of your highlights. Then, you go through and highlight the most important parts of the bolded text. For frequently referenced notes, you can even create an executive summary at the top with the most important ideas. The speaker also mentions that they sell these annotated notes on their blog for access to all current and future notes. This method allows for quick and easy retrieval of important information from a large collection of notes.

    • Creating content from books for passive incomeReading books based on personal interest, creating summaries, and publishing as podcasts or articles can lead to passive income and evergreen traffic.

      Creating and summarizing content from books can lead to passive income and evergreen traffic. The speaker, who has summarized over 240 books, shares how he reads books based on personal interest and uses his summaries to create podcast episodes and articles. He emphasizes the importance of reading what is interesting to maintain the reading habit and avoid getting bogged down in books that are not engaging. The speaker also mentions the importance of starting with any type of reading material and gradually increasing the difficulty level. He also introduces Growth Machine, but unfortunately, there wasn't enough information provided in the discussion to elaborate on it.

    • Combining Organic and Paid Marketing StrategiesSuccessfully merging organic and paid marketing can boost traffic and sales for businesses. While organic strategies like SEO can generate long-term results, paid ads offer quicker access to a larger audience. Both approaches can complement each other for optimal growth.

      Both organic and paid marketing strategies have their unique advantages and can work together to drive traffic and sales for businesses. Growth Machine, an SEO-focused content marketing agency, has successfully implemented this approach by ranking their ecommerce tea store, Cup and Leaf, at the top of Google for various tea-related keywords, resulting in organic sales. However, the speaker expresses concerns about the potential saturation of paid advertising due to its accessibility and the increasing number of people using it. Despite this, they believe that as long as people are selling things online, ads will continue to be an essential tool for businesses, with those who excel reaping significant rewards. Regarding book recommendations, the speaker mentions that they don't reread books often due to taking thorough notes the first time. However, they suggest sharing some recent and impactful reads for listeners' consideration. Stay tuned for their top book recommendations and a brief discussion on each.

    • Approach learning with a long-term mindsetTo achieve genuine mastery, approach learning with a long-term perspective, avoid quick-fix solutions, and consistently practice and apply new skills.

      There are numerous resources available to help individuals learn effectively and acquire new skills, but it's essential to approach learning with a long-term mindset and avoid the temptation of quick-fix solutions. Anders Ericsson and Robert Pool's book "Peak" is highly recommended for those seeking a comprehensive understanding of skill acquisition. However, be cautious of learning-related content that promises rapid results, as genuine mastery requires consistent effort and practice. Ultra learning, as discussed by Scott Young, is another valuable resource that emphasizes the importance of self-directed learning and the implementation of effective study techniques. Ultimately, the desire to learn and grow should be driven by a genuine thirst for knowledge and understanding, rather than a desire to appear intelligent or impress others.

    • Two inspiring biographies and memoirs showcasing human spirit's ability to endureBoth 'Endurance' and 'The Forgotten Highlander' demonstrate the resilience of the human spirit through survival stories of Shackleton and Alastar Earhart, emphasizing the importance of individual sovereignty and perseverance.

      Both "Endurance" by Alfred Lansing and "The Forgotten Highlander" by Alastair Earhart are inspiring biographies and memoirs that showcase the human spirit's ability to endure in the face of extreme adversity. Shackleton and his crew's survival in Antarctica for almost two years without additional supplies is a testament to their resilience, while Alastair Earhart's experiences as a Scottish prisoner of war during World War 2, including dysentery, forced labor, and surviving the bombing of Nagasaki, demonstrate an unbelievable strength and determination. Both books offer a stark contrast to the modern-day comforts we often take for granted and serve as a call to account for past atrocities and the importance of individual sovereignty. Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson and William Rees-Mogg also highlights the significance of individual autonomy and the potential for decentralized technologies to shape the future. Overall, these books provide valuable insights into the human condition and the power of perseverance.

    • Humans Tend Towards CentralizationDespite the desire for decentralization, humans naturally gravitate towards centralized systems and monopolies due to power disparities. Balanced governance is key to effective decentralization.

      While people may express a desire for decentralized systems, the reality is that humans tend towards centralization and monopolies due to inherent power disparities. Centralization of control is a persistent issue, even in decentralized systems like cryptocurrency. Power and control will always find a way to concentrate. The idea of a perfectly communistic distribution of power is unrealistic. The trust in institutions, such as government and education, runs deep, and people generally prefer these systems to function effectively, despite their imperfections. The ideal of a decentralized future may swing back and forth, but ultimately, we'll continue to see cycles of centralization and decentralization. Effective governance requires a balance of power, and total decentralization would lack the necessary structure and planning.

    • The human element in politics cannot be ignoredPeople's biases, need to belong, and personification of political figures influence political decisions, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness and perspective.

      The power to make significant decisions, even at the highest levels of government, ultimately rests with individuals who are influenced by their biases and prejudices. Despite the checks and balances in place, the human element cannot be ignored. The speaker also notes that people tend to personify political figures and policies, which can lead to cognitive dissonance and a focus on the narrative rather than the objective measures. Additionally, humans have an inherent need to belong to tribes and have enemies, which can influence political affiliations. The speaker suggests that it's worthwhile to consciously consider which tribes we identify with and which we oppose, rather than letting external factors make that decision for us. Ultimately, politics may not have a significant impact on our daily lives, and it's essential to keep things in perspective.

    • Avoiding being one-dimensional in political discussionsDon't let others define us based on political beliefs alone. Consider underlying concerns and values to foster productive conversations.

      Social media discussions about politics can often serve as a way for individuals to bond with like-minded groups, but it's important to avoid being one-dimensional and allowing others to categorize us based on just our political beliefs. Caleb Jones, a nonmonogamy advocate, shared an example of how his unique combination of beliefs and lifestyle choices made him an enigma to some of his friends. Robert Green emphasized the importance of not letting others put us in a box. It's crucial to think deeply about our political beliefs and not simply accept the package set of ideas that come with one group. Hot button issues like gun control and abortion require careful consideration and understanding, and it's essential to avoid talking past each other. Instead, we should aim to understand the underlying concerns and values of those on the other side. By doing so, we can foster more productive and respectful conversations. Ultimately, we don't want to look back on our lives as a caricature of ourselves, but as a multifaceted and interesting individual.

    • The Complexity and Emotion of the Abortion DebateDespite holding a pro-choice stance, acknowledging the complexity and lack of philosophical backing can lead to mischaracterization and polarization. Intellectually engaging books like 'Godel, Escher, Bach' can provide deeper understanding and foster nuanced discussions.

      The topic of abortion is a complex and emotionally charged issue with no clear-cut answer, and the inability to have nuanced discussions about it leads to polarization and misunderstanding. The speaker expresses her pro-choice stance but acknowledges the lack of a solid philosophical backing for it. She shares her experience of being outmatched in debates against opposing views and the resulting labeling and mischaracterization. The conversation then shifts to the difficulty of choosing favorite books, with a recommendation of "Godel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter, a book that requires a deep intellectual engagement and the physical copy for optimal understanding due to its unique format and interconnected ideas.

    • The Impact of Fear of Death on Human BehaviorOur fear of death drives many aspects of human behavior, including the pursuit of immortality and optimization of life, as discussed in relation to Becker's 'Denial of Death' theory and Seederstrom's approach to living.

      Our fear of death drives many aspects of human behavior. This was discussed in relation to the works of Ernest Becker and Carl Seederstrom. Becker's "Denial of Death" theory suggests that much of what we do is an attempt to create lasting legacies and achieve immortality in the face of our mortality. Seederstrom, who optimized different areas of his life each month, believed that the pursuit of happiness and optimization of life are also attempts to avoid contemplating death. This fear of death, while beneficial for evolutionary fitness, can lead to unusual thought patterns in a world of abundance. The discussion underscores the profound impact of mortality on human motivation and behavior. Additionally, it was mentioned that links to the books, podcasts, and social media accounts discussed during the conversation will be provided in the show notes for further exploration. Listeners are encouraged to check them out and support the podcast through the Amazon shop front. Overall, this conversation offered valuable insights into the role of fear of death in human behavior and the importance of understanding this fundamental aspect of human nature.

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