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    1020: Sovereign Citizens | Skeptical Sunday

    en-usJuly 21, 2024
    What is the sovereign citizen movement's view on government legitimacy?
    How do sovereign citizens justify not paying taxes?
    What do gurus sell that claim to offer diplomatic immunity?
    Why do sovereign citizens believe they are not subject to US laws?
    What is the perceived relationship between federal and sovereign citizens?

    Podcast Summary

    • Sovereign Citizen MovementIndividuals identifying as sovereign citizens do not recognize the legitimacy of the US government, refuse to comply with certain laws, and believe they are subject to maritime or Admiralty law, despite facing legal consequences

      The sovereign citizen movement is a belief system held by some individuals who do not acknowledge the legitimacy of the United States government. They do not pay taxes, carry IDs, or register their cars, among other things. Their actions often lead to run-ins with the law, and their beliefs are rooted in the idea that they are not subject to the laws of the United States. Instead, they believe a corporation has replaced the federal government and that they are subject only to maritime or Admiralty law. However, it's important to note that there is no single, unified belief system among sovereign citizens, and their beliefs can be difficult to comprehend. Despite their beliefs, sovereign citizens are still subject to the laws of the land and face consequences when they break them.

    • Sovereign Citizen Law BeliefsSovereign citizens' distorted interpretations of common and maritime law can lead them to believe they're exempt from legal obligations, based on non-existent treaties or false assumptions about US being Morocco.

      Sovereign citizens hold various beliefs about the law, specifically common law and maritime law, which often leads them to believe they are exempt from many legal obligations. They may assert that they are under common law, but their interpretation is often distorted. Some sovereign citizens believe they are exempt due to a non-existent treaty with Morocco, while others claim the United States is secretly Morocco. These beliefs, which lack a logical foundation, can lead to them disregarding laws they disagree with, creating a complex and confusing situation.

    • Sovereign Citizens' Belief SystemThe belief system of sovereign citizens, which holds two classes of US citizens and rejects federal citizenship, has no basis in law and is considered insane.

      The belief system of sovereign citizens is built on the idea of two classes of citizens in the United States: sovereign or original citizens and federal or US citizens. Sovereign citizens argue they have all the rights of the Constitution, while federal citizens do not. They believe federal citizens voluntarily surrendered their freedoms for government benefits. Sovereign citizens reject federal citizenship and claim common law rights, including having their own army, Navy, Air Force, and power plants. However, their arguments have no basis in law and have never been successful in court. They believe the US government dissolved and became a corporation, and Americans are secretly collateral to its debt. Despite their inconsistent beliefs and lack of a founding document, they all maintain a "leave me alone" credo towards government, banks, and courts. Their beliefs are considered insane and ridiculously complicated, and have no basis in law.

    • Sovereign Citizen MovementThe Sovereign Citizen Movement, originating in the 1960s, is a diverse group of individuals who believe they don't need to follow certain laws and engage in 'paper terrorism'. Their beliefs stem from a mix of anti-government, anti-Semitic, and Christian identity ideologies, and they use courts to harass opponents while claiming they are being forced into slavery through taxation.

      The sovereign citizen movement, rooted in the 1960s, is a diverse group of individuals who believe they don't need licenses, registrations, or follow certain laws, citing misinterpretations of the Uniform Commercial Code and a belief in their own sovereignty. They issue themselves license plates, use red ink and diagonals for documents, and engage in "paper terrorism" through frivolous lawsuits and false liens. Their beliefs stem from a mix of anti-government, anti-Semitic, and Christian identity ideologies. Originating from groups like Posse Comitatus, this movement has been fueled by gurus who profit from selling related materials, including diplomatic immunity cards. Despite their rejection of many laws, they still use the courts to harass opponents and claim they are being forced into slavery through taxation.

    • Diplomatic immunity cards scamDiplomatic immunity cards sold by gurus are a scam promising diplomatic immunity and secret bank accounts filled with government money, but in reality, they are expensive and useless plastic cards, and there's no evidence of these secret accounts or access to them.

      Diplomatic immunity cards sold by gurus claiming to help people create their own countries are a scam. These gurus promise diplomatic immunity but in reality, they are selling expensive and useless plastic cards. The real selling point is hope and the belief in a secret bank account filled with money owed to individuals by the government. However, there is no evidence of these secret accounts or the ability to access them through these cards. The IRS often misses these schemes due to underfunding and overwork, allowing them to persist for a while. Despite the lack of evidence, the gurus continue to profit from people's desperation and belief in these fantastical theories. The Sovereign movement, with its promises of financial freedom and emancipation from the government, can be appealing to some, but it's important to remember that these promises are not based in reality. Instead, focus on reliable sources of information and financial planning to secure your future.

    • Sovereign Citizen MovementBelief in sovereign citizen ideology can lead to dangerous, costly situations, including unpaid taxes, fraudulent activities, and violent confrontations with law enforcement, causing unnecessary harm and loss for individuals and taxpayers

      The sovereign citizen movement, which involves people believing they are not subject to any government laws, can lead desperate individuals into dangerous and costly situations. This belief can result in unpaid taxes, fraudulent activities, and even violent confrontations with law enforcement. The movement, which has an estimated 200,000 to 300,000 followers in the US, has been linked to various high-profile incidents, including the Bundy ranch standoff and the takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. These incidents often result in unnecessary harm and loss, both for the individuals involved and for taxpayers. It's important for people in desperate situations to seek legitimate help, such as consulting a bankruptcy lawyer, rather than falling for the promises of gurus promoting sovereign citizen ideology.

    • Sovereign Citizen MovementThe Sovereign Citizen Movement, which denies the legitimacy of the government, can lead to dangerous and violent actions, as shown in the Oklahoma City bombing, despite their theories having no merit in court.

      The sovereign citizen movement, which holds beliefs that the government is illegitimate, can lead to dangerous and violent actions. This was tragically demonstrated in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, which killed 168 people including children. Despite the lack of merit in their theories, sovereign citizens have been unable to successfully argue their points in a court of law. The ideology is on the rise in various countries, and it's important to promote good ideas and values to counteract the spread of harmful beliefs. The power of belief can be a double-edged sword, and it's crucial to use it wisely and not waste our finite lives on unworthy pursuits.

    • Overcoming distractionsFocus on creating progress and positive movement despite distractions and negative voices, and use them as fuel for meaningful conversations.

      It's essential to focus on creating progress and positive movement, even when faced with distractions and negative voices. Apollo Ono, the most decorated winter athlete in Olympic history, shares his perspective on the importance of open communication and recognizing the superpowers within each of us. The noise and distractions around us can be overwhelming, but they should not deter us from our life mission. Instead, we should use them as fuel to inspire and create meaningful conversations that move and inspire others. For more insights from Apollo Ono, listen to episode 783 of The Jordan Harbinger Show.

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