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    112: “Little Old Lady House” Investing with Mark Updegraff

    enMarch 05, 2015

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    • Creating a daily routine for goal progressThe 100 Day Challenge can help set and make substantial progress towards major goals with consistent planning and review. Small changes like waking up early can make a big difference, and resources like BiggerPockets offer valuable learning opportunities.

      Having a well-planned and executed daily routine can lead to significant progress towards achieving goals. Josh shared his experience of using the 100 Day Challenge to set and make substantial progress towards five major goals in just one week. He emphasized the importance of consistent planning and review, which he learned from listening to Grant Cardone's philosophy of 10x goals. While it may be challenging to find the time for hour-long goal planning sessions every day, even small changes like waking up an hour earlier can make a big difference. Additionally, BiggerPockets offers resources like the quick tip book "How We Bought a 24 Unit Apartment Complex for Almost No Money Down" and free webinars to help investors learn and grow in their real estate journey.

    • Discover valuable resources for real estate investorsListeners can access websites for potential mobile home demand, find off-market deals, and buy new rental properties with no money down, among other resources, through the Bigger Pockets podcast.

      While some resources on the Bigger Pockets platform are free, such as podcast replays for a week, access to archives requires an upgrade. For example, Jefferson Lilly, a mobile home park investor featured on the podcast last week, uses a specific website to determine the potential demand for mobile homes in a particular area. To find out what that website is, listeners can send an email to trivia@biggerpockets.com for a chance to win a copy of "The Book on Investing in Real Estate with No (and Low) Money Down." Additionally, DealMachine offers unlimited access to contact information for off-market deals, and Rent to Retirement allows investors to buy new construction rental properties with no money down. For property owners and operators, Quantum Fiber Internet offers fast and reliable Internet for residents. Overall, the Bigger Pockets podcast provides valuable insights and resources for real estate investors, with various tools and strategies discussed in each episode.

    • Identifying up-and-coming neighborhoodsSuccessfully investing in real estate involves identifying up-and-coming neighborhoods, which can offer significant rewards but require risk-taking and patience. Look for independent businesses, community, and lack of big box stores.

      Successful real estate investing often involves identifying up-and-coming neighborhoods before they become popular. This requires a certain level of risk-taking and patience, as these areas can be in transition and may have challenges such as crime and subpar housing stock. However, the potential rewards can be significant, as values can increase exponentially over time. To identify these areas, look for characteristics such as independent businesses, a sense of community, and a lack of big box stores. These neighborhoods may not be for everyone, but those who are willing to hunker down and weather the initial challenges can reap the benefits as the area transitions and becomes desirable. Additionally, even in the worst parts of a city, there is usually a stable rent market, and people are still paying to live there, albeit not always at market rates. So, while there is risk involved, there is also the potential for strong returns.

    • Thoroughly screen tenants, even with Section 8 subsidiesEffective property management requires in-depth tenant conversations to assess potential for difficult tenancies, even when dealing with Section 8 housing subsidies.

      Effective property management involves thorough tenant screening, even when dealing with Section 8 housing subsidies. While some tenants may appear great on paper, it's crucial to have an in-depth conversation to assess their potential as difficult tenants. This extra step can help minimize the risk of evictions and ensure a positive rental experience. Additionally, managing a smaller number of properties through a property management company may not be as profitable as managing a larger portfolio, but it's still possible to do so efficiently and professionally. The key is to treat all properties and clients equally, ensuring they all adhere to the same policies and procedures.

    • Building a team and wearing multiple hats in real estate investingSuccessful real estate investing requires thorough research, team building, and strategic investment in areas with job growth and stable economic indicators. Don't expect quick returns and use common sense.

      Successful real estate investing often involves wearing multiple hats and building a team to manage various aspects of the business. This was evident in the discussion between the interviewee, who manages a team of seven people handling property management, brokerage, maintenance, and accounting, while also investing in real estate himself. He shared that he started small, buying a house in a transitional neighborhood, and eventually decided to focus on acquiring as many cash-flowing properties as possible. His advice for new investors is to do thorough research and invest in areas with job growth and stable economic indicators. He also emphasized the importance of using common sense and not expecting quick returns. The interviewee's story highlights the importance of persistence, team building, and strategic investment in real estate.

    • Effective marketing and thorough tenant screeningUse multiple platforms for high lead volume, be present where tenants search, ask right questions for best tenants, maintain qualified leads database, and ensure a stable and profitable real estate portfolio.

      Effective marketing and thorough tenant screening are crucial elements for successful real estate investing. The speaker shared his strategy of using multiple platforms, such as Zillow and Trulia, to generate a high volume of leads. He emphasized the importance of being present where potential tenants and clients are searching for properties. The speaker also highlighted the importance of a comprehensive pre-interview process to ensure the best possible tenants are selected. By asking the right questions and weeding out those who may not be a good fit, time and resources are saved in the long run. Additionally, maintaining a database of qualified leads allows for efficient follow-up when new units become available. Overall, this approach helps ensure a stable and profitable real estate portfolio.

    • Effective communication and a living, breathing document are crucial for real estate successUse Marsha Maynard's pre-interview document as a starting point, tailor communication to specific needs, connect through personalized communication on BiggerPockets, engage in conversations without pitching, and utilize cloud-based systems for document collaboration and continuous improvement.

      Effective communication and a living, breathing document are key components in building a successful real estate business. The conversation highlighted the use of Marsha Maynard's pre-interview document as a starting point and the importance of constant editing and tailoring to fit specific needs. Additionally, utilizing platforms like BiggerPockets to connect with potential clients and investors through personalized communication can lead to valuable partnerships. By actively engaging in conversations and offering assistance without immediately pitching, professionals can establish trust and build a network that benefits everyone involved. Moreover, utilizing cloud-based systems like Google Drive to store and edit documents ensures accessibility and organization, allowing for efficient collaboration and continuous improvement.

    • Navigating client needs and capabilities in real estateEffective communication and understanding clients' goals and financial situations are vital for real estate agents. Partnering with experienced companies like BAM Capital can help agents navigate market changes and deliver strong returns to investors.

      Effective communication and understanding the needs and capabilities of potential clients are crucial for real estate agents. Some clients may seem unclear about their goals or financial situation, and it's essential to discern whether they are looking for more control or simply lack understanding. New investors who show a lack of knowledge or rely too heavily on creative financing may not be the best partners for an agent. Agents should also be prepared for the possibility of clients trying to bypass them by obtaining their own licenses or going directly to sellers. The real estate market can be challenging, and it's vital to partner with a trusted and experienced company like BAM Capital, which has a proven track record of navigating market changes and delivering strong returns to investors.

    • Real Estate Investing: Bam Capital, Airbnb, and 1031 ExchangesBam Capital offers stable returns from under-managed institutional assets, Airbnb generates income through property rentals, and 1031 exchanges defer capital gains taxes during property upgrades.

      Bam Capital, a real estate investment firm, has a proven track record of success, consistently paying preferred return distributions, not losing investor capital, and not calling for additional capital. They focus on under-managed institutional quality assets in the US heartland for accrued investors seeking wealth building or monthly income opportunities. Meanwhile, Airbnb offers an opportunity for individuals to generate extra income by renting out their properties while they're away on vacation. Additionally, 1031 exchanges, facilitated by First American Exchange Company, enable investors to defer capital gains taxes while upgrading their investment properties. Becoming a real estate agent or broker can provide advantages in the investing world, but it requires dedication and constant availability. Ultimately, success in real estate investing comes down to being responsive and proactive.

    • Building a team to manage rental propertiesAgents can build a team to manage rental properties and pursue other business ventures, while rental properties offer a source of income and long-term investment value.

      Becoming a real estate agent can be a demanding job with long hours and the need for constant support. The agent in this conversation expressed a desire to step back from the day-to-day work and build a team to manage their properties and clients. Rental properties, on the other hand, offer a source of income that can enable individuals to pursue other business ventures and financial goals. The agent in the conversation has built a portfolio of around 50 rental properties and finances them through creative means such as hard money lenders and commercial loans. Their buying criteria involves taking a conservative approach to calculate potential profits and considering the long-term value of the investment.

    • Finding 'little old lady houses' for better real estate returnsFocus on buying older homes owned by the same family for extended periods for better returns. New investors should consider buy-and-hold investments, aim for mid-range market, and prefer cash deals. Short sales offer opportunities with potential equity, but require careful assessment.

      When investing in real estate, focusing on buying older homes that have been owned by the same family for an extended period can lead to better returns due to their generally better condition. This strategy, often referred to as finding "little old lady houses," can provide a solid foundation for a successful real estate investment portfolio. Additionally, for new investors, it's recommended to start with buy-and-hold investments rather than flipping properties. Buy-and-hold investments offer a more forgiving asset class and allow investors to learn the real estate process thoroughly. However, it's essential to set long-term goals and be prepared to hold onto properties for at least 10 years. Cash deals are also preferred for new investors as they allow for a more straightforward purchase process. However, the lower end market for flips can be highly competitive, making it challenging to make significant profits. Instead, focusing on the mid-range market can lead to better opportunities for both buying and selling properties. Short sales can also present excellent opportunities for investors, as they often come with significant equity that can be leveraged for future investments. However, it's crucial to carefully assess the condition of these properties and be prepared for potential repairs or renovations.

    • Collaboration between investors and agents leads to successInvestors and agents working together can identify and secure profitable rental properties, maximizing opportunities for successful real estate investing.

      Successful real estate investing requires active participation and collaboration between investors and their agents. As discussed, a neglected furnace issue led to a significant discount on a property purchase. However, this success story wouldn't have been possible without the investor's dedication to the process and their agent's expertise. The agent couldn't single-handedly identify and secure every potential deal for their clients, and investors need to be proactive in their search for profitable rental properties. By staying engaged and working together, investors and agents can maximize opportunities and build successful portfolios.

    • Finding Successful Real Estate Investments Through Hands-On AnalysisThorough research and legwork increase the likelihood of successful real estate investments and strengthen investor-agent relationships. Ensure proper insurance coverage for property management companies and focus on a solid foundation in a desirable location.

      While there are numerous, seemingly automated real estate investment opportunities that promise to do all the work for you, the most successful and valuable investments that result from hands-on analysis and legwork. The speaker shared an example of how he found a promising property through thorough research, and although his agent showed up to support him, the speaker had already done the majority of the work. This approach not only increases the likelihood of a successful investment but also builds a stronger relationship between the investor and their agent. Additionally, it's important to ensure that a property management company has the correct insurance, specifically, general liability and errors and omissions insurance, to protect both parties. Lastly, starting with a solid foundation in a perfect location is crucial. for those looking to start their own real estate brokerage.

    • Standing out in a competitive real estate marketTo succeed in a competitive real estate market, new agents or brokerages should focus on building a strong brand, lifting mortgage contingencies, and establishing trust with all parties involved.

      In a competitive real estate market, having a strong brand and reputation is crucial for a new brokerage or agent to attract clients. A lack of brand recognition can lead to negative perceptions about a property or an agent. To make a compelling offer when competing against cash offers, consider lifting the mortgage contingency and increasing the deposit. However, this approach comes with risks, and it's essential to have confidence in your ability to secure financing. Building a strong relationship with the listing agent and submitting a strong offer as soon as possible are also effective strategies for increasing your chances of closing the deal. Other contingencies, such as home inspections, can be eliminated to make your offer more attractive, but this depends on the specific circumstances of the deal. Ultimately, the key is to provide value and establish trust with all parties involved.

    • New York Real Estate: Be Quick and FlexibleIn the competitive New York real estate market, buyers must act swiftly and be prepared to remove contingencies to secure a property, even after an offer has been accepted.

      In New York real estate transactions, even after an offer has been accepted, another higher offer with cash can potentially override the initial agreement. This can lead to the initial buyer losing the property. It's crucial for buyers to act swiftly and decisively when making an offer, and if necessary, be prepared to remove contingencies to secure the deal. The story shared involved a client who, despite having his offer accepted, faced competition from a cash offer. However, the seller honored his commitment to the initial buyer, but they had to waive their mortgage contingency to close the deal. This experience highlights the importance of being proactive and adaptable in the New York real estate market.

    • From Foreclosed to Profitable Rental with Mineral RightsThorough research, securing a good deal, managing properties effectively, and additional income from mineral rights can lead to successful real estate investing

      Successful real estate investing requires time, patience, and dedication, as demonstrated by Mark's experience with purchasing a foreclosed property in a Podunk town and turning it into a profitable rental with mineral rights royalties. Mark's story highlights the importance of conducting thorough research, securing a good deal, and managing properties effectively. The royalties from mineral rights provide an additional income stream, but their amount depends on the extraction rate of the gas company. Mark's success also involved some luck, such as finding a well-producing well across the street from his property. Mark's hobbies, including flame working and Frisbee golf, show his diverse interests outside of real estate. To learn more about Mark and his investment opportunities in Rochester, visit rochesterinvestment.com.

    • Engage with local real estate community for business growthBuilding a strong network and maintaining a positive attitude are essential for success in real estate investing. Engage with your local real estate community using tools like BiggerPockets' ZIP code feature to expand your network and increase chances of success.

      Building relationships and networking within your local real estate community can significantly grow your business. Mark Updegraf, a successful realtor from Rochester, shared his approach of engaging with other members on BiggerPockets using their ZIP code feature to expand his network. This simple yet effective strategy can lead to valuable connections and opportunities. As Josh Dworkin emphasized, "your net worth is in your network." By engaging with your local real estate community and building strong relationships, you can increase your chances of success in the real estate investing industry. Additionally, Mark's success story highlights the importance of staying focused on your goals and not letting negative attitudes from competitors deter you. Despite facing opposition from some of his peers, Mark continued to excel in his business and expand his property management portfolio. This determination and resilience are essential traits for any real estate investor looking to succeed in the long term. In summary, building a strong network and maintaining a positive attitude are crucial for success in real estate investing. By engaging with your local real estate community and focusing on your goals, you can increase your chances of success and grow your business.

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    Can you start investing in real estate with just $15,000? Yep, and mobile home investing is how you do it. We know what you’re thinking, “I don’t want to own trailers! I want to invest in “real” houses where the “real” money is at!” That’s what today’s guest John Fedro thought too some twenty years ago when he stumbled into mobile home investing, which, at the time, was even too embarrassing for him to share. But, over the past two decades, this at-first “embarrassing” investment has made him wealthy, and if you follow his lead, it can do the same for you. John has successfully made money with mobile homes in various ways: buying and flipping, wholesaling, renting, and seller financing, the main topic of today’s episode. He provides a masterclass on how to make money buying and selling mobile homes, where you essentially take on the role of the bank. However, it’s crucial to be cautious. Mishandling this could lead you into an ethical gray area and potentially harm your buyer. On the other hand, getting it right can create a win-win situation for both the buyer and seller while making you wealthy.  John shares his whole strategy, plus how he’s getting into deals for $15,000 and often making DOUBLE his money and $400 per month (or more) cash flow per door when he seller finances these properties. If you want a way to get into real estate investing without a ton of cash but with the potential to make a serious return on your money, this may be your winning strategy. In This Episode We Cover The three “levels” of mobile home investing and how much each costs to get into The danger of seller financing the wrong way and how it can hurt your buyer Why you MUST background check EVERYONE you seller-finance a mobile home to One thing that new mobile home investors overlook that can ruin your properties The exit strategies you must know about to avoid losing money on your next deal Whether or not we would invest in mobile homes (and our concerns with seller financing)  And So Much More! (00:00) Intro (02:32) Seller Financing...Mobile Homes? (11:18) Win-Win Seller Financing  (16:52) 3 "Levels" of Mobile Home Investing (22:08) How Much to Invest?  (23:53) Cash Flow and Profit Numbers (26:51) What to Look Out For (32:38) New Investors, Do THIS!  (33:52) Would WE Invest In It? Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-976 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    975: BiggerNews: Rent Price Updates and Why Landlords Are Optimistic About 2024 w/Zumper’s Anthemos Georgiades

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    The rental market could finally be returning to stability after a wild past four years. Since 2020, we’ve seen rent prices skyrocket almost overnight, with huge asking price increases for single-family homes, multifamily apartments, and everything in between. But that trend quickly reversed as the fight against inflation began, mortgage rates rose, and would-be homebuyers sat still, not knowing whether to stay renting or search for a home. But, a return to “equilibrium” may be coming soon, and that’s good news for landlords and renters alike. To break it all down, Zumper’s Anthemos Georgiades joins the show to share his team’s latest rent data. Anthemos brings some surprisingly good news for landlords, from new month-over-month rent growth data to consumer preferences shifting to a more renter-focused lifestyle; now may be the moment landlords have been waiting for as renter demand looks promising and rates stay high. We’ll also discuss the inflation lag effect our rental market has caused and how to stay on top of current rent prices.  Has the dream of homeownership died? And if so, how do YOU attract the long-term renters who want to make a home out of your house (while paying YOU rent!)? Stick around for this rental market update every landlord needs to know about. Support today’s show sponsor, Rent App: the free and easy way to collect rent! In This Episode We Cover Rent growth updates and why rents for some units are starting to climb Single-family vs. multifamily demand and which asset is seeing the most strength  Why Anthemos is predicting a return to “equilibrium” for landlords this summer  The massive effect rent has on inflation and how housing shifts the economy  Is the “American Dream” dead? Why young Americans are ditching homeownership Where to find free, up-to-date rent price data so YOU can make the most from your rental  And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-975 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    974: Maximalism: The New Renter-Friendly Trend Landlords Can’t Overlook w/Tay “BeepBoop” Nakamoto

    974: Maximalism: The New Renter-Friendly Trend Landlords Can’t Overlook w/Tay “BeepBoop” Nakamoto
    Want to really stand out in your market? A few renter-friendly interior design ideas can make a world of difference, elevating a run-of-the-mill property into one that attracts tenants and guests and stays occupied year-round. Today’s guest has some affordable, do-it-yourself (DIY) design hacks centered around “maximalism,” the design trend you can’t afford to not know about.   Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Real Estate podcast! If you want to boost your property’s value, keep renters happy, and get even MORE cash flow from your portfolio, you’ve come to the right place. Today, interior designer Tay “BeepBoop” Nakamoto joins the show to share some of her most popular rental design tips. Regardless of your investing strategy, whether you own short-term rentals or are flipping houses for a profit, you won’t want to miss out on these enormous value-adds. The best part? They are extremely cost-effective, easy to implement, and, most importantly, reversible!   In this episode, Tay delves into maximalism—the interior design trend that is taking the world by storm in 2024—and shares how you can seamlessly integrate this popular style with your rental properties. She even shares some of the best places to find furniture, décor, and materials, as well as some common pitfalls to avoid when tackling your own home renovation projects! In This Episode We Cover The best renter-friendly, do-it-yourself (DIY) design hacks for rentals How to implement maximalism throughout your rental properties Why you must know your limits when making design changes Where to find budget-friendly furniture and décor for your property How landlords can benefit from keeping up with the latest design trends Common pitfalls to avoid when tackling your own home design projects And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-974 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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