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    enApril 29, 2018
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    About this Episode

    The Mirror Universe, Part 2: Through the Looking Glass.

    Since its introduction in the second season of The Original Series, the Mirror Universe has been a fan favorite. This alternate world in which good is bad has captured the imagination of fans and allowed writers to put a new twist on Star Trek’s familiar wrappings. Following 1967’s “Mirror, Mirror,” our connection with this reflection of sorts was severed for many years. It wasn’t until Deep Space Nine’s second season and “Crossover” in 1994 that we once again got a glimpse on screen.

    In this episode of The Orb, hosts C Bryan Jones and Matthew Rushing explore DS9’s second trip to the Mirror Universe in “Through the Looking Glass,” including parallels with Star Trek: Discovery, character differences, and why this could be called Star Trek: A Star Wars Story.

    Chapters
    Intro (00:00:00)
    Replacements (00:03:48)
    A Second Chance (00:12:59)
    Awesome Avery (00:14:49)
    Mirror Sisko/Prime Kira Parallels (00:19:34)
    Character Differences (00:22:47)
    Sexuality (00:37:06)
    Star Wars Parallels (00:43:36)
    Final Thoughts (00:47:06)
    Reviews and Closing (00:50:09)

    Hosts
    C Bryan Jones and Matthew Rushing

    Production
    C Bryan Jones (Editor and Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) William Murray (Associate Producer) Kay Elizabeth Shaw (Associate Producer) James Muldrow (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Brandon-Shea Mutala (Patreon Manager)

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    Production
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