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    When AI becomes more intelligent than humans, is humanity doomed?

    In this episode, Trishul prepares Aaron for when Artificial Intelligence becomes Artificial General Intelligence and the ensuing implications for humanity. He explains inner alignment and outer alignment problems and how capitalism and the prisoner's dilemma may mitigate AI creators from pursuing sufficient safety. When we start to consider scale and accessibility, it's possible that despite the best efforts of the vast majority of humanity, we can't overcome humans' inability to unanimously agree on anything.

    Episode References
    Artificial General Intelligence
    Nuclear Close Calls
    Prisoner's Dilemma
    Moloch
    Youtube: AI Alignment Problem
    Microsoft $10B investment in OpenAI
    Great Filter
    Don't Look Up
    I, Robot

    Aaron Agte and Trishul Patel go beyond traditional finance questions to help you explore how to use your money to achieve the freedom you want in life. Aaron is a Bay Area Financial Planner with GraystoneAdvisor.com, and Trishul is an East Coast Wealth Manager (InvestingForever.com). MindMoneySpectrum.com and YouTube.

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