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    #129 — An Insider’s View of Medicine

    enJune 12, 2018

    Podcast Summary

    • From Medical Background to Pediatric OtolaryngologistDr. Nina Shapiro, a renowned pediatric otolaryngologist, shares her journey from following a traditional medical path to her specialty, emphasizing the importance of trust and communication between patients and doctors.

      Learning from this conversation with Dr. Nina Shapiro is that becoming a doctor was a natural progression for her, given her medical background. Dr. Shapiro, a pediatric otolaryngologist and professor of head and neck surgery at UCLA, shares her personal journey from following the traditional medical track to her specialty in pediatric ear, nose, and throat surgery. She discusses her experiences as a patient and a doctor, providing insights into what patients should know that doctors often do. Dr. Shapiro's background includes her medical degree from Harvard and residency training in Boston, with over 21 years in academic medicine at UCLA. Her expertise lies in treating complex cases referred to her from around the world. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes the importance of trust and communication between patients and doctors. Dr. Shapiro's new book, "A Doctor's Guide to Medical Myths, Exaggerated Claims, and Bad Advice," offers valuable information for those seeking to navigate the medical field and make informed decisions about their health.

    • A blend of routine care and high-pressure situationsPediatric otolaryngology involves routine care and occasional life-threatening situations, requiring quick action. Doctors address airway problems in infants, making their work both rewarding and stressful. Parents add to the stress, but children are more resilient than adults.

      Being a pediatric otolaryngologist involves a unique blend of routine care and high-pressure situations. The doctor shared their experience of completing their medical education at Harvard, followed by a combined fellowship at Great Ormond Street Hospital in London and Rady Children's Hospital in San Diego. They have been working with children since their fellowship. The doctor compared their specialty to playing the piccolo in an orchestra, where most of the work is routine, but there are occasional life-threatening situations that require quick action. They emphasized the importance of their role in addressing airway problems in infants, making their work both rewarding and stressful. Parents bring an additional layer of stress to the situation, as they are understandably concerned about their children's health. The doctor acknowledged that parents' stress is justified but also noted that children are more resilient than adults and can handle more than we might think. Overall, being a pediatric otolaryngologist involves a mix of everyday care and high-stakes situations, making it a unique and challenging career.

    • Parents: Be careful with health info for kidsParents should focus on benefits, seek reliable sources, and avoid unnecessary panic for their child's health concerns

      Parents should be cautious about transferring their own health-related fears and misinformation to their children. While it's natural for parents to be concerned about their child's health, relying too heavily on Google for information can lead to unnecessary panic and confusion. Kids are generally more resilient than adults and recover more quickly from procedures and illnesses. Parents should focus on the benefits of interventions rather than the risks and seek reliable sources of information to put things into perspective. It's essential to remember that not intervening in certain situations can be more harmful than taking action. Overall, it's crucial for parents to approach their child's health concerns with accurate information and a balanced perspective.

    • Children's unique abilities to bounce backChildren's smaller bodies, puffier heads, and vocal cords enable them to cope with illnesses and injuries better than adults, offering hope for a full recovery

      Children's resilience and ability to bounce back from traumatic experiences, including illnesses and injuries, is far greater than that of adults. This is due to their unique physiological makeup and evolutionary abilities. For instance, children's smaller bodies, puffier heads, and vocal cords that can withstand prolonged crying are just a few examples. However, navigating the healthcare system with a sick child can be challenging, and receiving a scary diagnosis can be terrifying. It's common for parents to seek second opinions and extensive research to alleviate their fears. Despite the uncertainty and potential risks, children's remarkable resilience offers hope for a full recovery and a bright future.

    • The importance of seeking a second opinionMisdiagnoses and inadequate treatments are common, seek additional opinions if concerned, trust instincts, be informed, proactive, and persistent in advocating for health.

      While doctors play a crucial role in diagnosing and treating various health conditions, the importance of seeking a second opinion cannot be overstated. The speaker's personal experiences, as well as those of their family members, highlight the frequency of misdiagnoses and inappropriate treatment recommendations. However, accessing a second opinion may not be an option for everyone due to financial or logistical constraints. The speaker emphasizes that misdiagnoses and inadequate treatments are common issues and can lead to unnecessary stress, anxiety, and potentially harmful interventions. As a healthcare professional, the speaker acknowledges the complexity of medical cases and the existence of multiple treatment pathways. Nevertheless, they encourage patients to trust their instincts and seek additional opinions if they have concerns about their diagnosis or treatment plan. Ultimately, being informed, proactive, and persistent in advocating for one's health is essential for receiving accurate and appropriate care.

    • Seeking Multiple Opinions for Medical CarePatients should consider multiple opinions, consider non-invasive treatments, and be informed to avoid unnecessary procedures and make the best healthcare decisions.

      It's essential for patients to seek multiple opinions before making decisions about their medical care, especially when it comes to surgical interventions. The medical status, age, and tolerance of the patient can influence the recommended treatment paths. However, bias built into medical disciplines, such as a surgeon's preference for surgery, can also impact the advice given. In some cases, unnecessary tests or consultations with the wrong specialty too early can lead to unnecessary procedures and added costs. Patients should be encouraged to consider physical therapy, lifestyle modifications, and other non-invasive treatments before resorting to surgery. Ultimately, being informed and proactive in your healthcare can help you avoid unnecessary procedures and make the best decisions for your overall wellbeing.

    • Finding Trustworthy Doctors: A ChallengePatients must research, ask for recommendations, and trust their instincts to find trustworthy doctors, advocating for their own health and well-being.

      There is a wide range of talent, knowledge, and ethics among doctors, just like in any other profession. Unfortunately, not all doctors operate with the best interests of their patients in mind, leading to mistrust and over-reliance on medical procedures. Patients may feel pressured into unnecessary surgeries or treatments, which can result in disappointment and even harm. It's essential to seek second or third opinions when considering drastic medical recommendations. However, navigating the complex medical system to find a trustworthy doctor can be challenging. As a doctor, I can confirm that there is an insider track to finding good doctors, but bad doctors never disappear. It's crucial to do thorough research, ask for recommendations, and trust your instincts when choosing a healthcare provider. Ultimately, patients must be advocates for their own health and well-being, ensuring they receive the best possible care.

    • Trusting the hospital system for optimal carePatients should trust hospital routines and professionals for efficient and effective care, rather than trying to create their own treatment plans or demanding special requests.

      While being a doctor provides some advantages in navigating the hospital system, it's important for patients to avoid trying to create their own treatment plans based on assumptions or preferences. Hospitals have established routines and procedures that ensure efficient and effective care. Trying to alter these routines, such as requesting specific doctors or demanding to be the first procedure of the day, can actually lead to worse care. It's best for patients to trust the hospital staff and their expertise. Additionally, in emergency situations, professional courtesy may help expedite care, but it's crucial to ensure that the requested caregivers are the most qualified for the specific medical condition. Overall, the hospital system can be frustrating, but trusting the professionals and going with the flow can lead to the best possible care.

    • The Impact of Celebrity Status on Healthcare EfficiencyCelebrity status can disrupt healthcare efficiency, but it can also lead to better care. Extreme cases of 'star fuckery' can result in substandard care.

      While celebrity status may lead to inefficient healthcare due to disruptions and demands, it's challenging to quantify this phenomenon. The nature of celebrity care can sometimes result in better care due to less focus on connections and status. However, extreme cases exist where the entire healthcare system can be thrown off balance, potentially leading to substandard care. These instances are often referred to as "star fuckery." While it's difficult to measure the impact of celebrity status on healthcare efficiency, it's important to recognize that the system can be disrupted and that celebrities may not always receive optimal care as a result. The Making Sense podcast, hosted by Sam Harris, explores this topic further, providing insights into the complexities of healthcare and the role of celebrity status within it. To access the full discussion and other exclusive content, subscribe to the podcast at samharris.org.

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