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    130. An Interview With Kristen Carder

    enAugust 30, 2024
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    • ADHD and toxic relationshipsMany adults with ADHD have been raised in unhealthy families, leading them to attract and accept unhealthy relationships. Understanding that they are not the source of toxicity can be liberating and empowering.

      Many adults with ADHD have been raised in unhealthy families, including those with narcissistic parents, leading them to attract and accept unhealthy relationships. This realization can be a surprising and challenging one, as those affected have often been conditioned to believe they are the problem. However, understanding that they are not the source of the toxicity in their relationships can be a liberating and empowering experience. Kristen Carter, a guest on the podcast, shared her own experience of this realization and the impact it had on her coaching practice, where she supports adults with ADHD. She emphasized that this pattern is not unique to her clients and is a common theme among thousands of people from around the world. The podcast, I Have ADHD, and resources like Pinch of Gnome's new cookbook, can provide valuable knowledge and support for those on this journey of self-discovery and healing.

    • Neurodivergent individuals and emotional abuseNeurodivergent individuals, particularly truth tellers, face emotional abuse and scapegoating in various systems, leading to a deep sense of devastation, relief, and grief. It's essential for them to recognize their worth and seek support.

      Neurodivergent individuals, particularly those who are truth tellers, often face scapegoating and emotional abuse, both at home and in various systems such as schools and churches. This experience can lead to a deep sense of devastation, relief, and grief. Growing up in environments where they are made to feel like the problem, neurodivergent individuals may struggle to understand healthy relationships and may internalize toxic messages. The prevalence of control and shame in various systems can further exacerbate this issue. It's essential for neurodivergent individuals to recognize that they are not the problem and to seek support in understanding their worth and value. As experts and therapists, it's crucial for us to validate their experiences and help them navigate the complexities of their past and present relationships.

    • Toxic HopePeople may hold onto toxic hope in unhealthy relationships, believing they're the problem, leading to resistance to change and fear of losing the relationship, hindering healthy communication.

      People often hold onto toxic hope in unhealthy relationships, believing that if they are the problem, they can change and salvage the relationship. This was the case for an individual who had spent years trying to communicate effectively with her parents, only to be met with resistance and criticism. Despite being told by multiple therapists, coaches, and consultants that she was not the problem and was communicating clearly, she continued to seek validation and blame others for the disconnect. This fear of being labeled as the problem and losing the relationship led her to question the intentions of her helpers and even switch therapists multiple times. It's essential to recognize and challenge toxic hope to promote healthy communication and relationships.

    • Perception of emotional abuseOur perception of emotional abuse can be influenced by external factors, but it's crucial to recognize and validate our inner experiences and seek help if needed.

      The way we perceive and label our experiences can significantly impact how we process and heal from emotional abuse. The speaker shared her experience of growing up with parents who were viewed as self-sacrificing and amazing, but internally, she felt a disconnect and confusion. She was unable to reconcile this discrepancy, leading to feelings of guilt and self-doubt. The speaker's therapist helped her understand that emotional abuse can be subtle and not always clear-cut, and that her parents' actions, despite the loving words, were manipulative and controlling. It's important to recognize that emotional abuse can take many forms and that our experiences are valid, regardless of how they may be perceived by others. The speaker's journey to understanding and healing from her experiences is a reminder that it's essential to listen to our inner voice and seek professional help when needed.

    • Parental exploitationChildhood experiences of being used to meet parents' emotional needs can lead to repeating unhealthy patterns in adulthood, and it's essential to recognize that one is not to blame and to seek out healthy relationships where both parties' needs are met equally.

      Growing up, the speaker was exploited by their parents, who used them to fill their own emotional needs rather than providing for the speaker's own needs. This pattern continued into adulthood, with the speaker repeating the same dynamic in relationships. The speaker felt a deep sense of responsibility for their parents' happiness and believed that their own worth came from fulfilling their parents' needs. However, this mindset was a result of their environment and conditioning, and the speaker did not truly collude or consent to being used in this way. The speaker's parents presented this behavior as love and kindness, but it came at a great cost to the speaker, who sacrificed their own needs and identity to meet the needs of others. It's important for the speaker to recognize that they were not to blame for their past experiences and to hold their parents accountable for their actions. The speaker's upbringing also influenced their relationships in the present, as they continued to put others' needs before their own and repeat unhealthy patterns. It's essential for the speaker to learn to prioritize their own needs and to seek out healthy relationships where both parties' needs are met equally.

    • Comparing experiences of abuseComparing our experiences of abuse to others is unhelpful and potentially harmful. Recognize and validate your own experiences, apply empathy and compassion to yourself, and share memories with trusted individuals to help heal.

      Comparing our experiences of abuse to others is unhelpful and potentially harmful. It's essential to recognize and validate our own experiences, even if they don't match the severity of others. By applying empathy and compassion to ourselves, we can begin to heal. Many people, especially those who grew up in toxic environments, may minimize their experiences and not remember their childhoods clearly. Writing down and sharing these memories with trusted individuals can help us see the truth and understand that what we experienced was not normal or acceptable. Remember, your story matters and is worth being heard.

    • Childhood experiencesChildhood experiences, even seemingly normal, can have profound effects on emotional development and parenting abilities. Neglect and abandonment during crises can cause lasting harm.

      Childhood experiences, even those that seem normal to the child, can have profound and lasting effects. The speaker shared a story of nearly drowning as a child and being left alone to deal with the aftermath, which was dismissed by those around her. However, when she became a parent herself, she realized the gravity of the situation and the emotional harm caused by the neglect and abandonment she experienced. This experience highlighted the importance of empathy, connection, and prioritizing children's needs, especially in times of crisis. It also underscored the impact of growing up in a dysfunctional family system and the importance of self-awareness and personal growth in becoming a better parent.

    • Parenting honesty and self-reflectionAcknowledging mistakes and creating a safe space for children to express feelings empowers growth for both parents and children, while recognizing and challenging societal norms can lead to healthier family dynamics.

      Honesty and self-reflection are crucial in parenting. Parents make mistakes, and it's essential to acknowledge them and apologize to our children. Unhealthy family dynamics, such as enmeshment and scapegoating, can influence our parenting styles, and it's important to recognize and change them. When we create a safe space for our children to express their feelings and criticisms without fear of retribution, we empower them and ourselves as parents to grow and improve. Additionally, it's essential to be aware of the conditioning we receive from our upbringing and the societal norms that can influence how we parent. By recognizing and challenging these norms, we can create healthier and more loving environments for our children.

    • Childhood experiences and parentingUnderstanding our own childhood experiences and conditioning is vital for effective parenting and creating better futures for our children. Expert Kristen Willeumier emphasizes this through her work with ADHD and her podcast, I Have ADHD.

      Understanding our own experiences and conditioning from our childhood is crucial for creating healthier relationships and a better future for our children. Kristen Willeumier, an expert on ADHD, emphasized this during her conversation with Helen and Katie. She shared how her own experiences as a child influenced her parenting and how she's using her knowledge to help her children avoid the same struggles. Kristen also invited listeners to join a more detailed discussion about ADHD and parenting strategies on her podcast, I Have ADHD, which can be found on her website, ihaveADHD.com, as well as on Instagram and YouTube under the same name. By sharing her insights and experiences, Kristen aims to provide hope for families dealing with ADHD and help them create healthier relationships.

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