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    132. Is It Wrong to Enjoy Yourself While the World Is Burning?

    en-usJanuary 29, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Emphasizing Progress Amidst ChallengesHuman innovation and ideas have led to global prosperity, but it's crucial to address ongoing challenges and work towards positive change.

      Despite feeling overwhelmed by global issues such as war, climate, inequality, and oppression, it's important for individuals to remain productive and contribute to the world in their own way. Angela Duckworth, in response to an email from a listener, emphasized that human innovation and ideas have made the world more prosperous and civilized throughout history. She also pointed out that when looking at the overall trend of human prosperity versus suffering, the data is overwhelmingly positive. For instance, the global population has grown significantly without leading to mass starvation, and child mortality, literacy, and poverty rates have all improved dramatically. While it's essential to acknowledge the challenges, it's also important to remember the progress humanity has made and continue working towards positive change.

    • Focusing on progress despite challengesMaintaining a balanced perspective and continuing to work towards ideas that lead to more health, happiness, and prosperity for all is essential, despite the challenges and predictions of doom and gloom.

      While it's natural for humans to focus on problems and challenges, it's important to remember that many measures of prosperity have been improving over time. History shows that predictions of doom and gloom are often inaccurate, and our ability to address issues like climate change is a sign of progress. However, excessive pessimism can hinder progress and limit the potential for finding solutions. For example, the recent nuclear fusion breakthrough, which could be a significant step forward for clean energy, received little enthusiasm from some pessimistic corners due to a lack of hope for effective solutions. Therefore, it's essential to maintain a balanced perspective and continue working towards ideas that lead to more health, happiness, and prosperity for all.

    • Moral circles: Expanding or narrowing our scope of concernExplore the size of our moral circles, from family to humanity, and consider the implications on actions and responsibilities. (Socrates, Seligman, Singer)

      We all have different moral circles, and the question is how wide or narrow we choose to make them. The speaker references a conversation in painting class about feeling guilty for focusing on personal hobb and art during global crises, which led to a discussion about the moral circle and its size. The moral circle refers to the scope of our moral concerns, from caring for just our immediate family to extending it to all of humanity. The speaker mentions philosophers like Socrates, Marty Seligman, and Peter Singer, who have explored this concept. The speaker also shares an example of someone whose moral circle is limited to her local community, and how it can be seen as a "doughnut" shape, with little concern for those close but expanding concerns for those further away. Ultimately, the speaker encourages us to consider the implications of our moral circles and how they shape our actions and responsibilities.

    • Understanding Morality as a Balance of Inner and Outer CirclesWe all grapple with inner and outer moral circles, balancing care for loved ones with concern for humanity. This conflict can help us navigate moral complexities.

      According to the discussion, human morality can be seen as a combination of centripetal and centrifugal forces. Centripetal forces represent our inner moral circle, focusing on people we know and care for deeply. Centrifugal forces, on the other hand, are concerned with humanity in general and the greater good. We all have these conflicting forces within us, and recognizing this can help us understand the complexity of moral decision-making. The speaker mentioned the concept of a "moral donut" or "bagel," highlighting the importance of both our immediate and broader circles. This conflict was illustrated through the example of a woman in a painting class, who faces the tension between caring for her family and pursuing her own happiness. Ultimately, we all make trade-offs between these competing forces, and recognizing this can help us navigate the complexities of morality. The speaker also referenced the philosopher Adam Smith, who wrote about these concepts in the 18th century.

    • The Inherent Drive to Care for Others' Happiness and SufferingThough self-interest is a part of human nature, we also have an inherent drive to care about others' happiness and suffering, even if we have no connection to them.

      Key takeaway from the discussion about Adam Smith's "Theory of Moral Sentiments" is that despite our inherent self-interest, we also have an inherent drive to care about the happiness and suffering of others. Smith used the example of the great empire of China being swallowed up by an earthquake to illustrate this point. Even if we have no connection to the people affected, we still feel distress when we hear of their misfortune. Smith also wrote about pity or compassion as a principle in human nature that makes others' happiness necessary to us. Modern people often grapple with the question of whether they deserve to feel good about their own insignificant problems when there are so many suffering people in the world. An example of this was recently seen during the World Cup when American journalist Grant Wall died during a game. Despite knowing Wall and feeling a connection to him, journalist Simon Cooper ended up watching the game instead of rushing to his side. Cooper later wrote about this dilemma and how he ultimately chose to watch the game, illustrating the complex human emotion of caring for others while also being self-interested beings.

    • The Joy of the World Cup Outweighs Controversies and CostsDespite controversies and costs, the World Cup brings joy to billions, reminding us to prioritize positivity over negativity and make a positive impact.

      The World Cup in Qatar, despite its controversies and costs, brings joy to billions of people around the world. The host country's human rights issues and corruption have cast a shadow over the event, but it's essential not to overlook the benefits. These include the joy of being alive, having friends, and contributing to society. However, humans have a tendency to focus on the negative and forget the positive. This phenomenon, known as hyperbolic discounting, is a steep curve that describes how we weigh the consequences to our future self. It's the reason we often make impulsive decisions, prioritizing short-term pleasure over long-term benefits. Similarly, we discount the importance of others based on our social distance. The death of American journalist Grant Wall, who spoke out against Qatar's human rights abuses, fueled speculation about foul play and highlighted the complexities of the situation. Ultimately, the World Cup serves as a reminder to use our frustration and sense of helplessness to make a positive impact on the world, no matter how small.

    • Recognizing the influence of social proximity on our care for othersDespite recognizing the equal importance of distant individuals, we often experience less care due to psychological distance, a phenomenon known as hyperbolic discounting. However, situational factors can influence our moral behavior, challenging the notion of inherent callousness.

      Our actions and feelings towards others are influenced by their social proximity to us. We may recognize that distant individuals matter just as much as those close to us, but we often experience a steep discount in care due to the psychological distance. This phenomenon, known as hyperbolic discounting, can make it challenging for us to feel deeply for people who are not directly connected to our lives. However, studies like Dan Batson's Good Samaritan experiment demonstrate that our moral behavior can be influenced by situational factors, such as time constraints, rather than inherent callousness. This highlights the complexity of human nature and the importance of understanding the various factors that shape our moral circles.

    • Focus on what you can do in your own life to make a differenceEmpathy fuels altruistic behavior, but can lead to feelings of helplessness. Focus on making a difference in your own life to combat these feelings.

      Empathy and other-oriented emotions are crucial for altruistic behavior. Feeling sympathy for others' suffering motivates selfless actions. However, it can also lead to feelings of helplessness and potential hypocrisy when faced with the vast amount of suffering in the world. To combat these feelings, Angie, a practitioner of positive psychology, suggests focusing on what you can do in your own life, rather than being overwhelmed by the complexities and evils of the world. The idea is to "cultivate your garden" and make a difference in your own small way. Listeners are encouraged to share their own strategies for combating feelings of helplessness, potential hypocrisy, and pessimism by recording a voice memo and sending it to nsq@freakonomics.com.

    • Cultivate your own gardenFocus on personal growth and making a positive impact, no matter the size or external factors.

      Despite the challenges and negativity in the world, it's important to focus on personal growth and making a positive impact, no matter how small. Voltaire's quote about cultivating one's own garden can be applied to various aspects of life, from personal hobbies to professional pursuits and relationships. However, it's important to remember that external factors can also impact our ability to make a difference. History shows that predictions about the future are often inaccurate, and the constant barrage of negative news can lead to feelings of helplessness. But every person has the capacity to do something productive and fruitful, even if it seems insignificant. So, keep cultivating your garden, painting your painting, and making that tuna sandwich, and don't let the world's negativity distract you from making a difference. And, as a fact check, the global population reached 8 billion in 2022, not the mid to late 19th century as Stephen mentioned, and approximately 3.7% of children around the world die before the age of 5.

    • Understanding the Complexity of Human EmotionsPeople's emotional responses, including crying, can have both positive and negative causes, and can be triggered by unexpected sources.

      People's emotional responses, including crying, can be complex and varied. Christina Luke shared her personal experience of being a "recreational crier" and how she discovered that 68.4% of her crying instances had negative causes, while 31.6% had positive ones. Her most unusual triggers include rounds of applause and intense emotional reactions from others. Despite feeling embarrassed at times, she embraces her empathetic nature. The discussion highlights the diversity of human emotions and how they can be triggered by unexpected sources. It's a reminder that our emotional responses are unique to us and are an essential part of the human experience.

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