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    17. How Can We Get More Virtue and Less ‘Virtue Signaling’?

    en-usSeptember 06, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • The challenge of deciding where to invest energy in caring for causesWhile expressing care for causes is important, it's equally crucial to take action and not just virtue signal to make a difference.

      While it's important to care about various issues and other people, it can be challenging to decide where to invest energy, especially with the abundance of causes to care about in today's world. Virtue signaling, or the act of expressing support for a cause to appear caring without taking significant action, can be a result of compassion fatigue and the difficulty of understanding the connection between caring and making a difference. A study on hand hygiene in an Australian Children's Hospital serves as an example, where doctors reported washing their hands 73% of the time but were found to do it only 9% of the time in reality. This gap highlights the importance of not just expressing care but also taking action to make a difference.

    • Healthcare workers caring deeply but failing to actFocus on causes we care about and can contribute to, rather than trying to tackle everything at once, for genuine impact.

      Caring and action don't always go hand in hand. The discussion highlights the paradoxical behavior of healthcare workers who care deeply for others but failed to wash their hands regularly. This raises questions about how to encourage genuine care and reduce hypocrisy. It's easier for us to care about issues that are close to our hearts or directly impact us and those we love. However, as the scope widens, it becomes harder to care equally about every cause. This issue is compounded by the prevalence of virtue signaling on social media, which can distract from taking meaningful action. To bridge the gap, it's essential to focus on causes we're passionate about and have the ability to contribute to, rather than trying to tackle everything at once. Ultimately, it's better to take small, impactful actions than to simply signal our caring through tweets or social media posts. Human nature prioritizes what's right in front of us, but by focusing on causes that resonate with us, we can make a difference in the world.

    • Lowering barriers to caring actionsFocusing on simple, achievable actions can inspire more people to engage in virtuous behaviors, even if they can't address every issue.

      Reducing the friction in contributing to causes we care about can lead to more people engaging in virtuous actions. The speaker emphasized the importance of focusing on what we can do, rather than feeling overwhelmed by trying to address every issue. They also discussed the role of social media and how its frictionless nature can lead to more virtue signaling than actual action. The speaker suggested that by lowering the barriers to entry for caring activities, such as tutoring, more people will be encouraged to make a difference. While it may be challenging to make virtue as frictionless as virtue signaling, organizations that do so effectively can inspire greater engagement and impact.

    • Anonymity in Charitable Giving: Inspiring Awe vs. Inspiring ActionAnonymity in charitable giving can inspire awe and motivate others to give, but expressing care through action is more valuable.

      The impact of charitable giving can be amplified when it is done anonymously. The speaker shares anecdotes from historical figures like Maimonides and modern philanthropists like Steven Spielberg, who have held contrasting views on the importance of anonymity in giving. While Maimonides advocated for anonymous giving, Spielberg argues that using his name to inspire others to give is more effective. However, the speaker expresses admiration for anonymous donors, as their actions inspire awe and motivate others to give without seeking recognition. The speaker also shares a personal experience of doing secret good deeds and the sense of fulfillment it brings. The speaker concludes by questioning the value of expressing care without taking action and suggesting that earning the right to use a public platform, like Twitter, through volunteering or actual work could be a solution to reduce virtue signaling.

    • Understanding the Complexity of Human TraitsRecognize and appreciate the unique strengths of individuals, as everyone excels in different areas and contributes value in their unique way.

      People are complex and can exhibit traits of multiple categories, but it's important to recognize the value of each trait in different contexts. Angela's father believed that people were categorized as thinkers, doers, or charmers, and it was rare for someone to embody all three. However, Angela applied this concept to writing and writers, realizing that the ideal writer is someone who excels in reporting or research, analysis or ideas, and the actual writing itself. Not everyone can be great at all aspects, but recognizing and appreciating the unique strengths of each individual is essential. This idea can be applied to various aspects of life, encouraging us to look beyond simplistic labels and embrace the complexity of human potential.

    • Exceptional individuals excel in multiple areas of thinking and doingBeing exceptional requires a balance of thoughtful deliberation and effective action in various areas

      Being exceptional in multiple areas, such as thinking and doing, can be a rare trait. This idea was highlighted in an article by Nobel Prize winner William Shockley, who found that a small number of individuals in his lab were outliers in terms of scientific publications. Shockley explained that to excel in any field, one needs a good idea, the ability to test it, design studies, carry them out, analyze data, write it up, and get it published. These components, if uncorrelated, can lead to a skewed distribution where a few individuals excel in all areas, while most are average. Although the speaker's father was not referencing academic literature when he mentioned the importance of being a charmer, a thinker, and a doer, these traits can be seen as potentially conflicting based on some research in psychology. People who are inclined to deliberate and consider the pros and cons of actions tend not to be quick doers. However, thinking and doing are not mutually exclusive and are typically sequential rather than opposing forces. To be successful in multiple areas, one must be able to balance both thoughtful deliberation and effective action.

    • Natural preferences in thinking, doing, and charmThoughts can lead to outcomes if acted upon, but charm, defined as graciousness, empathy, or social intelligence, could also be the most important trait.

      While we can all exhibit elements of thinking, doing, and charm, we may have a natural preference or strength in one area over the others. The speaker argues that for him, he identifies with thoughts, but acknowledges his inconsistency in prioritizing this trait in different areas of his life. He also emphasizes that thoughts, whether positive or negative, can lead to significant outcomes if acted upon by oneself or others. Charm, while useful, is ranked third, as it can be empty without substance or action. However, the speaker challenges this ranking and suggests that if charm is defined as being gracious, empathetic, or socially intelligent, it could be considered the most important trait. Ultimately, the interpretation of these traits and their importance can vary, and it's essential to remember that each one plays a role in our personal and professional growth.

    • The importance of being a well-rounded personStrive for balance in personal growth, focusing on interpersonal skills, thinking abilities, doing, and caring for others.

      Being a great person or successful in various aspects of life involves more than just focusing on one area of character, such as charm or being likable. While interpersonal skills are important, they don't necessarily equate to great thinking and decision-making abilities. Additionally, being a doer and pushing to challenge ideas can lead to growth and success, even if it's not always charming. The speaker in the conversation acknowledged that they have prioritized being a thinker and doer over being charming in recent years, but realized that these qualities aren't mutually exclusive. It's important to strive for balance and not view personal growth as a zero-sum game where one area must be sacrificed for another. The conversation also touched on the importance of caring and being interested in others, even when delivering criticism or feedback. Overall, the key takeaway is that being a well-rounded person involves a combination of various strengths and characteristics.

    • Authenticity and Virtue SignalingAuthenticity and personal growth are essential components of a fulfilling life. Small actions can impact perception, and practicing virtuous deeds anonymously and focusing on the present moment are important.

      Everyone has unique ways of living their lives and finding success. During a conversation on the podcast "No Stupid Questions," hosts Stephen J. Dubner and Angela Duckworth discussed the importance of authenticity and virtue signaling. Dubner shared an experience of being replaced by a more charming colleague, while Duckworth emphasized the importance of anonymous good deeds and living in the present. Throughout the episode, they touched on various topics, including Ben Franklin's industriousness and the power of inspiration from AA's "Just for Today" cards. While they acknowledged the importance of appearing credible and virtuous, they also emphasized the need for authenticity and focusing on personal growth. The episode was produced by Rebecca Lee Douglas and fact-checked by the Freakonomics Radio team. They discussed how small actions, such as filling a wheelbarrow with paper to appear industrious, can have a significant impact on how others perceive us. Additionally, they highlighted the importance of practicing virtuous deeds anonymously and focusing on the present moment. In summary, the key takeaway is that everyone has unique ways of living their lives and finding success, and authenticity and personal growth are essential components of a fulfilling life.

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