2019-012: OWASP ASVSv4 discussion with Daniel Cuthbert and Jim Manico - Part 1

Full Youtube VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX7odQTBkyQ 

Questions and topics:

1. Let’s talk about Mindful Business Podcast

   1. What’s the topics you cover?

2. Topic #1: discuss your experiences when you were a new leader.

   1.  What worked? What didn't? What would you have done differently?

   2. Do you emulate your manager's style? What have been your go-to management resources? 

   3. What is a good piece of advice that you’ve been given or that you impart to others that relates to leadership?

3. Topic #2: building/Operating SaaS products (we can discuss securing them, what functions should be table stakes (data structures, logging, etc)

4. Topic #3: What are bare minimums for building ‘secure’ Saas products in your particular field? And how do you balance security with a positive user experience (i. e. getting customers to buy into MFA/OAUTH, OTA updates

5. Topic #4: Do many SaaS products get over-integrated? Is the need for integration override best practices in security? 

Additional information / pertinent LInks (Would you like to know more?):

1. Twitter/Mastodon:
   https://twitter.com/AccidentalCISO
   https://infosec.exchange/@accidentalciso

2. The Mindful Business Security Show:
   https://www.mindfulsmbshow.com/
   https://twitter.com/mindfulsmbshow
   
   

Show points of Contact:

Amanda Berlin: @infosystir @hackershealth 

Brian Boettcher: @boettcherpwned

Bryan Brake: https://linkedin.com/in/brakeb 

Brakesec Website: https://www.brakeingsecurity.com

Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@brakeseced

Twitch Channel: https://twitch.tv/brakesec

Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed on this program are solely the views of the individuals involved and by no means represent absolute facts. Opinions expressed by the host and guests can change at any time based on new information, and do not represent views of past, present, or future employers.

Recorded: 28 Jan 2024

Youtube VOD: https://youtube.com/live/uX7odQTBkyQ

Questions and topics:

1. Let’s talk about Mindful Business Podcast

   1. What’s the topics you cover?

2. Topic #1: discuss your experiences when you were a new leader.

   1.  What worked? What didn't? What would you have done differently?

   2. Do you emulate your manager's style? What have been your go-to management resources? 

   3. What is a good piece of advice that you’ve been given or that you impart to others that relates to leadership?

3. Topic #2: building/Operating SaaS products (we can discuss securing them, what functions should be table stakes (data structures, logging, etc)

4. Topic #3: What are bare minimums for building ‘secure’ Saas products in your particular field? And how do you balance security with a positive user experience (i. e. getting customers to buy into MFA/OAUTH, OTA updates

5. Topic #4: Do many SaaS products get over-integrated? Is the need for integration override best practices in security? 

Additional information / pertinent LInks (Would you like to know more?):

1. Twitter/Mastodon:
   https://twitter.com/AccidentalCISO
   https://infosec.exchange/@accidentalciso

2. The Mindful Business Security Show:
   https://www.mindfulsmbshow.com/
   https://twitter.com/mindfulsmbshow
   

Show points of Contact:

Amanda Berlin: @infosystir @hackershealth 

Brian Boettcher: @boettcherpwned

Bryan Brake: https://linkedin.com/in/brakeb 

Brakesec Website: https://www.brakeingsecurity.com

Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@brakeseced

Twitch Channel: https://twitch.tv/brakesec

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Show Topic Summary:

Ms. Berlin proposes a question of how to gather more headcount with metrics, we discuss the BLUFFS bluetooth vulnerability, and “Ranty Claus” talks about CISA’s remarks of putting the onus on device product makers to remove choice for customers and implement secure defaults.

#youtube VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emcAzTx9z0c 

Questions and topics:

1. https://cyberscoop.com/cisa-goldstein-secure-by-design/

2. https://hackaday.com/2023/12/02/update-on-the-bluffs-bluetooth-vulnerability/

Additional information / pertinent LInks (Would you like to know more?):

1. https://cyberscoop.com/jen-easterly-secure-by-design/
   
   

2. https://www.cisa.gov/resources-tools/resources/stop-passing-buck-cybersecurity 

3. Examples of companies forcing changes https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-will-roll-out-mfa-enforcing-policies-for-admin-portal-access/  

4. https://github.com/aya-rs/aya - eBPF implementation in Rust

5. https://ossfortress.io/  

6. https://www.darkreading.com/endpoint-security/critical-logofail-bugs-secure-boot-bypass-millions-pcs 

Show points of Contact:

Amanda Berlin: @infosystir @hackershealth 

Brian Boettcher: @boettcherpwned

Bryan Brake: @bryanbrake on Mastodon.social, https://linkedin.com/in/brakeb 

Brakesec Website: https://www.brakeingsecurity.com

Twitter: @brakesec 

Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/c/BDSPodcast

Twitch Channel: https://twitch.tv/brakesec

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News:

https://www.darkreading.com/remote-workforce/1password-latest-victim-okta-customer-service-breach

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24075435-bhi-notice

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/us-energy-firm-shares-how-akira-ransomware-hacked-its-systems/

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ransomware-isnt-going-away-the-problem-is-only-getting-worse/

https://www.shacknews.com/article/137505/ransomware-group-capcom-2020-arrested

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/flipper-zero-can-now-spam-android-windows-users-with-bluetooth-alerts/

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/three-cybersecurity-sectors-that-resist-economic-downturns

Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed on this program are solely the views of the individuals involved and by no means represent absolute facts. Opinions expressed by the host and guests can change at any time, and do not represent views of past, present, or future employers.

Guest Bio: Nicole is the Chief Product Officer at Axio. Nicole has spent her career building awareness around the benefits of usable security and human-centered security as a way to increase company revenue and create a seamless user experience.

 Youtube VOD Link: https://youtube.com/live/tFaAB9an47g

 Questions and topics: Usable security: is it an oxymoron?

What determines if the security is ‘usable’ or no? We sacrifice security for a better UX, what can be done to alleviate that? Or is it some sort of sliding scale in “poor UX, amazing security or awesome UX, poor security” Examples of poor UX for ‘people’: MFA, and password managers.

SEC updates and ‘material events’ and how that would affect security, IR, and other company reporting functions. 

Also, additional documentation (Regulation S-K Item 106) https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicole-sundin-5225a1149_sec-adopts-rules-on-cybersecurity-risk-management-activity-7090065804083290112-ISD8

Are companies ready to talk about their cybersecurity? Can the SEC say “you’re not doing enough?”

 What is ‘enough’?

Are we heading toward yet another audit needed for public companies, similar to SOX?

When does an 8-K get publicly disclosed?

Materiality is based on a “reasonable investor”?

So, you don’t need to announce that until you’re certain, and it’s based on what you can collect? Cyber Risk Management and some good examples of how to set up a proper cyber risk organization

Additional Links:

https://csrc.nist.gov/CSRC/media/Projects/usable-cybersecurity/images-media/Is%20Usable%20Security%20an%20Oxymoron.pdf

http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/protection/Basic.html

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-139

https://www.sec.gov/news/statement/munter-statement-assessing-materiality-030922

https://www.pwc.com/us/en/services/consulting/cybersecurity-risk-regulatory/sec-final-cybersecurity-disclosure-rules.html

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/technology-onepagers/hc-computing.html

 https://securityscorecard.com/blog/what-is-cyber-security-performance-management/

Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed on this program are solely the views of the individuals involved and by no means represent absolute facts. Opinions expressed by the host and guests can change at any time, and do not represent views of past, present, or future employers.

Guest Bio: John is the CEO of Aronetics. An avid climber and runner, John has spoken at many conferences about topics like ZeroTrust, BIOS/UEFI security, communication security, and malware. Aronetics is a technology-enabled service provider. 

Youtube VOD: https://youtube.com/live/5dIVTwVZLAU

Linkedin VOD: https://www.linkedin.com/video/live/urn:li:ugcPost:7101738254823030784

Show Topic Summary:

John joins us to discuss “letters of Marque” in an effort for hackers to ‘hack back’... the overreliance on automation, and communication siloes. We also talk about what a ‘junior position’ in infosec looks like with AI doing all the “Level 1 SOC Analyst” type roles normally given to someone fresh to the security industry.

Questions and topics:

1. Is infosec over reliant on automation? Automation comes with its own challenges.

   1. Documentation woes

   1. Automation is usually found in userland

Aronetics’ Thor provides defense and counter-offense tamper-proof technology digitally tied to 

Letter of Marque - good idea, or geopolitical disaster waiting to happen?

Siloes and communication -best ways to overcome those in an org and outside?

How do we overcome siloing?

Overcoming security challenges?Identity management - 2FA is everywhere, there’s already ways around 2FA, so what now? 3FA? Biometrics? Make everyone carry around physical tokens that we can lose?

Blog post: https://www.aronetics.com/post-quantum-cryptography/
What do we need to protect against? Nation states with quantum computers? Rubber hose cryptography?

Crime thrives in areas of low visibility. https://www.aronetics.com/unknown/ 

https://www.aronetics.com/inside-the-breach/ (threat detection - the crime thrives in low vis areas)

Show points of Contact:

Brakesec Website: https://www.brakeingsecurity.com

Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/c/BDSPodcast

Twitch Channel: https://twitch.tv/brakesec

Amanda Berlin: @infosystir@infosec.exchange (Mastodon) @hackershealth 

Brian Boettcher: @boettcherpwned

Bryan Brake: @bryanbrake on Mastodon.social

Disclaimer: The views, information, or opinions expressed on this program are solely the views of the individuals involved and by no means represent absolute facts. Opinions expressed by the host and guests can change at any time, and do not represent views of past, present, or future employers.

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Amazon Link: https://packt.link/megan

Youtube VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1_jQa9OQ2w

Show Topic Summary:

Megan Roddie is currently working as a Senior Security Engineer at IBM. Along with her work at IBM, she works with the SANS Institute as a co-author of FOR509, presents regularly at security conferences, and serves as CFO of Mental Health Hackers. Megan has two Master's degrees, one in Digital Forensics and the other in Information Security Engineering, along with many industry certifications in a wide range of specialties. When Megan is not fighting cybercrime, she is an active competitor in Muay Thai/Kickboxing. She is a co-author of “Practical Threat Detection Engineering” from Packt publishing, on sale now in print and e-book. Buy here: https://subscription.packtpub.com/book/security/9781801076715

https://packt.link/megan ← Amazon redirect link that publisher uses if you want something easier on the notes

Questions and topics:

1. Of the 3 models, which do you find you use more and why? (PoP, ATT&CK, kill chain)

2. What kind of orgs have ‘detection engineering’ teams? What roles are involved here, and can other teams (like IR) be involved or share a reverse role there?

3. Lab setup requires an agent… any agent for ingestion or something specific? 

4. How does Fleet or data ingestion work for Iot/Embedded device testing? Anything you suggest?

5. How important is it to normalize your log output for ingestion? (app, web, server all tell the story)

Additional information / pertinent LInks (Would you like to know more?):

1. Unified Kill Chain: https://www.unifiedkillchain.com/

2. ATT&CK: https://attack.mitre.org/ 

3. D3FEND matrix BrakeSec show from 2021: https://brakeingsecurity.com/2021-023-d3fend-framework-dll-injection-types-more-solarwinds-infections 

4. Pyramid of Pain: https://detect-respond.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-pyramid-of-pain.html

5. https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/98486-435-million-the-average-cost-of-a-data-breach 

6. https://medium.com/@gary.j.katz (per Megan, ‘it’s basically Chapter 11 of the book’)

Show points of Contact:

Amanda Berlin: @infosystir @hackershealth 

Brian Boettcher: @boettcherpwned

Bryan Brake: @bryanbrake on Mastodon.social, Twitter, bluesky

Brakesec Website: https://www.brakeingsecurity.com

Twitter: @brakesec 

Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/c/BDSPodcast

Twitch Channel: https://twitch.tv/brakesec

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Full video on our youtube Channel! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkBeLuM_urk

https://www.rapid7.com/blog/post/2023/07/11/cve-2023-29298-adobe-coldfusion-access-control-bypass/

https://www.darkreading.com/remote-workforce/hacker-infected-foiled-by-own-infostealer

https://therecord.media/cisa-warnings-adobe-microsoft-citrix-vulnerabilities

https://www.itsecurityguru.org/2023/07/18/millions-of-keyboard-walk-patterns-found-in-compromised-passwords/

https://therecord.media/airline-customer-support-phone-number-fraud-google

https://twitter.com/Shmuli/status/1680669938468499458

https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/CVE-2023-36884

https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/tabletop-exercises-as-risk-mitigation-5278057/

https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/linux-ransomware-poses-significant-threat-to-critical-infrastructure

https://bevyengine.org/  - Rust game engine
https://godotengine.org/ - a more mature Rust game engine

https://flappybird.io/ - which I suck at, BTW

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"Flex" by Jeremy Blake
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