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    223. Should Kids Pay Back Their Parents for Raising Them?

    en-usOctober 08, 2015

    Podcast Summary

    • Family pressure and passion fueled Buchanan's athletic careerFamily support and personal determination helped Philip Buchanan overcome financial struggles and pursue his passion for sports, leading him to a successful athletic career

      Family support and determination played a significant role in Philip Buchanan's journey to becoming a professional athlete. Growing up, he felt the pressure to make it for his family, often sacrificing summer trips and personal time for sports. When offered a large signing bonus to play baseball, he chose football instead, following his true passion. Despite the financial strain caused by his mother's expectation of a million-dollar debt, Buchanan's determination led him to become a star player at the University of Miami and eventually get drafted by the Oakland Raiders. Through it all, his family's influence and his own perseverance propelled him towards his goals.

    • The Obligation of Children to Repay ParentsThe decision whether children should financially repay their parents is complex and depends on the individual relationship and circumstances.

      The question of whether children have an obligation to financially repay their parents for raising them is a complex and nuanced issue. The discussion on Freakonomics Radio explored this idea through the story of American football player Philip Buchanan, who was asked by his mother for a million dollars after he signed his NFL contract. While some argue that children should help their aging parents in various ways, including financially, others believe that the obligation is not contractual and should not be formalized. Ultimately, the decision depends on the individual relationship between the parent and child, and the specific circumstances of their situation.

    • The Challenges of Managing Money for Former AthletesDespite earning millions, many former athletes face financial instability due to lack of financial education and overspending. Financial literacy and responsible money management are crucial.

      Making a lot of money, especially suddenly like many athletes do, comes with its own set of challenges, particularly when it comes to managing finances. Despite earning millions during his NFL career, Philip Buchanan found himself in debt and had to learn financial management the hard way. Many former athletes face similar struggles, with roughly one in six going bankrupt within a dozen years of retirement, regardless of how much money they made or for how long they played. The lack of financial education and the sudden influx of money leading to overspending are common themes among these athletes. Buchanan himself spent close to a million dollars before even being drafted, using a line of credit provided by his agency based on his potential NFL earnings. The risks of financial instability are high in this universe, underscoring the importance of financial literacy and responsible money management.

    • The Intersection of Personal Relationships and Financial TransactionsThe value of children in personal relationships has evolved, leading to a complex interplay between economic obligations and emotional connections.

      The relationship between financial transactions and personal relationships, particularly within families, is more complex than it may seem. As shown in the discussion about Philip Buchanan's situation with his mother, economic obligations and emotional connections can intertwine in intricate ways. Viviana Zelizer, a sociology professor at Princeton University, has explored this phenomenon, highlighting how the value of children has evolved from being seen as economically valuable to being considered priceless. This shift in perception has led to new ways of thinking about family transactions and the role of money in personal relationships. Ultimately, it's essential to understand that the world of pricing and the world of intimacy are not entirely separate, and examining their intersection can provide valuable insights into the complexities of family dynamics and economic exchanges.

    • From assets to emotional valueHistorically, children were economic assets, but now they're sources of emotional value for parents. This shift has led to fewer children per family and a complex debate about inheritance and care for aging parents.

      The role and value of children in families have significantly shifted from being assets with economic contribution to being sources of emotional value and consumption for parents. Historically, children were seen as investments due to their ability to help with farming and retirement care. However, with the transition to industrialized economies, fertility rates have plunged, and children are no longer assets but rather consumer durables for parents. Today, children are expected to provide emotional value rather than economic contribution. This change has led to a decrease in the number of children per woman from an average of four or five to around one or two. The debate among economists continues regarding the purpose of inheritance, with some viewing it as a strategic bequest motive to control children. The obligation of children to care for their aging parents financially or otherwise remains a complex issue, as every family situation is unique.

    • Strategic bequests: Controlling the future through promises of propertyFamily relationships and inheritance are complex, with debates on whether it serves as a reward or a means of control, and cultural expectations influencing perceived obligations.

      In the past, families, particularly in 19th century America, used the strategic bequest motive as a means of controlling the future through promises of property to younger generations. However, this practice, which was often accompanied by mutual distrust, has largely faded. Today, there is ongoing debate about the purpose of inheritance, with some arguing it serves as a reward for past investments and others viewing it as a way to control the future. The role of family relationships in providing for aging parents is a complex issue, with different cultural expectations influencing the perceived obligations. In the US, there is less expectation for grown children to support their aging parents financially compared to some other cultures. Ultimately, whether or not family relationships should be considered conditional is a complex question, with different cultural norms and individual circumstances influencing the answer.

    • Parent-child financial relationships: More complex than obligationUnderstanding unique circumstances and motivations behind parent-financial requests is crucial before making judgments, as they can stem from affection or obligation, and individual contexts and emotions play a significant role.

      The dynamics of parent-child relationships and expectations of financial support in later life are complex and nuanced. While some may view asking for financial assistance from children as a violation of the traditional parent-child relationship, others argue that it could stem from a place of affection and not obligation. The case of Philip Buchanan and his mother's request for a large sum of money highlights the need for understanding the unique circumstances and motivations behind such requests before making moral judgments. The speaker, a professor at Princeton, shares her perspective on the matter, emphasizing that she would prefer any assistance in later life to come from affection rather than obligation. However, she acknowledges the complexity of these issues and the potential for quid pro quo arrangements to exist within families. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the importance of considering the individual contexts and emotions involved in these situations.

    • Mother Asking Son for Money: Complexities of Financial Support in Athletic FamiliesMothers asking sons for money in athletic families can lead to complex dynamics, with historical filial piety laws adding a layer of complexity. Open communication and mutual respect are key to maintaining healthy family relationships.

      The discussion revolves around the complex dynamics of financial support between parents and children, particularly in the context of professional athletes and their families. The speaker explores the idea of a mother asking her son for a large sum of money, and the potential implications of such a request. The conversation also touches upon historical filial responsibility laws and their modern-day relevance. Ultimately, the speaker expresses skepticism towards enforced filial piety, believing it may not foster ideal family relationships. Instead, the focus should be on open communication and mutual respect.

    • Filial Piety and the Duty to Care for ParentsFilial piety emphasizes respect and obligation towards parents, leading to a deep sense of duty and gratitude. Children may feel a strong urge to care for their parents when they're older, creating a cycle of care and support between generations. Parents should not demand money or gratitude, and children should not be put at risk to fulfill this duty.

      The concept of filial piety, a Confucian tenet emphasizing respect and obligation towards parents, can significantly influence an individual's perspective on repaying their parents for the care they received. This can manifest as a deep sense of obligation and gratitude, even if the parents never demanded it. The story of the bird and its fledglings illustrates this idea, showing that children may feel a strong sense of duty to care for their parents when they are older. However, it's essential to remember that parents cannot demand money or gratitude, and children should not be put in harm's way to fulfill this duty. Ultimately, the goal is to create a cycle of care and support between generations.

    • Children's Role in Parents' Care: Tradition vs. ModernityChildren's role in caring for aging parents is rooted in tradition but changing with modern life. While not legally obligated, they should take care of their parents as part of their role in the next generation.

      While there may not be a legal obligation for children to take care of their aging parents, the relationship and responsibilities between them are deeply rooted in family and societal values. The discussion revolved around the idea that in the past, multigenerational living was more common, and children would help take care of their grandparents. However, with the changes in modern life and societal norms, this is less common now. The speakers questioned whether children should be obligated to pay for their parents' care or if it would change the relationship into a business transaction. Ultimately, they believed that children should take care of their parents as part of their role in the next generation, even if it's not a legal requirement. The conversation also touched on the upcoming Nobel Prize in economics and the production of Freakonomics Radio.

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