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    25. The 5 Investing Mistakes That Cost Us THOUSANDS! Bad Stocks, Bad Decisions, And The Lessons We've Learned

    enSeptember 27, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • Lack of an emergency fund before investingInvesting without an emergency fund can lead to financial insecurity and potential losses.

      Investing involves risks, and even experienced investors make mistakes. Andrea and Jamie, the hosts of the Stocks and Savings podcast, shared their five biggest mistakes from their early investing days. The first mistake was not having an emergency fund before starting to invest, with their investments serving as their only savings. Although this mistake didn't cost them money at the time, it highlighted the importance of having financial security before investing. They emphasized that they are not financial advisors, and their podcast is for educational purposes only. Despite their past mistakes, they have learned valuable lessons, and their goal is to help others avoid similar pitfalls.

    • Juggling University and Multiple JobsUniversity jobs and scholarships can help cover expenses, but prioritize saving for future financial stability.

      Working during university helped the speaker earn extra money, but it also made managing finances more challenging. They had a scholarship, a maintenance loan, and multiple jobs, including running an indoor cricket league. Despite having a well-paid graduate job after university, they struggled to save due to high living expenses and the temptation to invest instead. The only way they stabilized their finances was by moving in with a partner and starting to invest later. The lesson learned is that while it's important to earn extra money during university, it's equally important to prioritize saving and building an emergency fund.

    • Having an emergency fund is crucial for financial securityDuring uncertain economic times, an emergency fund provides peace of mind and allows investors to avoid selling during market downturns, despite low returns, for financial and emotional benefits.

      Having an emergency fund is crucial for financial security, especially during uncertain economic times. During periods of low interest rates and rising stock market values, it's easy to overlook the importance of an emergency fund. However, as history has shown, economic downturns and unexpected expenses can force investors to sell their investments at inopportune times, resulting in significant financial losses. For instance, during the 2008 financial crisis, selling investments after they had crashed would have meant missing out on the market's subsequent recovery. Having an emergency fund provides peace of mind and allows investors to avoid selling during market downturns. Although cash may not offer great returns in the long term, the financial and emotional benefits of having an emergency fund far outweigh the costs. Therefore, it's essential to prioritize building an emergency fund before investing in the stock market.

    • Starting with index funds is less risky for beginnersIndex funds provide stable returns through diversification and have historically outperformed actively managed funds, making them a wise choice for new investors

      Starting with index funds is a wiser choice for beginners in investing compared to investing in individual stocks. The discussion highlighted that investing in index funds, which are baskets of stocks that track the performance of a specific stock market benchmark, is less risky and provides more stable returns due to the diversification of thousands of stocks. On the other hand, investing in individual stocks can be a roller coaster ride with unpredictable returns, making it emotionally challenging for beginners. The lack of knowledge and experience can lead to impulsive buying and selling decisions, resulting in losses instead of gains. The historical data shows that index funds have outperformed most actively managed funds, making them a more reliable investment option for the long term. Therefore, it's recommended for new investors to start with index funds and gradually build their knowledge and experience before venturing into individual stocks.

    • Investing in individual high-growth stocks vs index funds: Risks and rewardsInvesting in individual high-growth stocks can yield high returns but comes with greater risks. Choose stocks with cheaper prices, use a low-cost platform, and avoid doubling down on losing stocks.

      While investing in individual high-growth stocks can potentially yield high returns, it also comes with greater risks compared to investing in index funds. The speaker shares his experience of investing in tech stocks at different stages, some of which were successful, while others resulted in losses. He plans to continue investing in individual stocks, but with the intention of shifting towards index funds when their prices become less attractive. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of choosing stocks with relatively cheaper prices over index funds and holding onto them for potential future growth. Another key point is the importance of using a platform that caters to small investments and has minimal costs. The speaker shares his personal experience of using Trading 212 for his stocks and shares ISAs due to its low fees, ease of use, and wide range of investments. However, the speaker also warns against doubling down on a bad company, which he identifies as his biggest mistake in investing. He advises against investing more money into a losing stock in the hope of recovering losses, as it can lead to even greater losses. Instead, it's important to cut losses and move on to better investment opportunities.

    • Investing in the stock market comes with risks and potential lossesBe cautious of red flags and poor management decisions in companies before investing, as ignoring them can lead to significant losses.

      Investing in the stock market involves risks, and even the best growth stocks can experience significant price drops. This is not necessarily a sign of a bad investment, but rather the nature of the market. However, it's important to be aware of red flags and signs of struggle in a company before deciding to double down on a bad investment. Ignoring these warning signs can lead to significant losses. A prime example of this is the investment in Teladoc, a telehealth company that saw its shares fall by 94% after a series of missteps and poor management decisions. Despite the red flags, some investors, including the speaker, continued to invest in the company, only to see their initial investment wiped out. It's crucial to carefully consider the long-term potential of a company and weigh the risks before making any investment decisions.

    • Buying the Dip on Troubled CompaniesFocus on a company's fundamentals instead of temporary price drops, and avoid investing in companies with serious red flags.

      Investing in the stock market involves risks, and it's essential to understand the reasons behind the price drops before buying the dip. The speaker shares his experience of losing money on Teladoc shares, which he bought when they were falling, assuming it was a temporary issue. However, the company faced long-term problems, leading to significant losses. The speaker now focuses on the company's fundamentals rather than the stock price. He advises against buying the dip on companies with serious red flags, even if they offer seemingly attractive prices. The speaker also mentions his past mistake of believing that higher risk equals higher returns. He encourages investors to be cautious and patient, focusing on the company's long-term prospects before making investment decisions. The speaker suggests an episode on red flags to watch out for in investments, as it could be a valuable learning experience for listeners.

    • Low risk investments can still yield impressive returnsOver the long term, low risk investments, such as those with the least volatile stocks, can generate better returns than high risk investments.

      While high reward investments may seem appealing, they often come with high risk. This means that there's a greater chance of losing a significant portion of your investment. A study in the book "High Returns from Low Risk" found that a low risk portfolio, consisting of the least volatile stocks, delivered better returns than a high risk portfolio over an 86-year period. The low risk portfolio generated an average annual return of 10.2%, while the high risk portfolio only generated 6.4%. This shows that over the long term, lower risk investments can still yield impressive returns. It's important to remember that all investments carry some level of risk, and it's crucial to consider this factor when making investment decisions.

    • Understanding the value of investmentsInvest wisely by considering the worth of an investment, your willingness to pay, and potential selling price to avoid overpaying and minimize losses.

      Investing wisely involves understanding the value of what you're buying, and not just hopping on the hype train of trending stocks or cryptocurrencies. The speaker shares his personal experience of losing money on risky investments and learning the importance of investing in well-diversified index funds and individual stocks of solid companies. He emphasizes that making mistakes is a part of learning, but it's crucial to minimize the cost of those mistakes. The speaker and his team have created an investing course, A to Z Investing, to help beginners avoid common pitfalls and become confident investors. The fifth mistake discussed in the episode was ignoring valuations, which can lead to overpaying for stocks and setting yourself up for potential losses. The speaker encourages investors to consider the worth of an investment, their willingness to pay for it, and the potential selling price before making a purchase.

    • Considering Valuation in InvestingProper valuation assessment is crucial in investing, even in companies with growth potential. Neglecting valuation can lead to costly mistakes.

      Proper consideration of valuation is crucial in investing, even if other factors like a company's potential for growth are attractive. The speaker shares an experience of overpaying for shares in fast-growing technology companies during a market bubble in 2021, leading to substantial losses. While valuation may not be the first consideration when assessing an investment, it should not be overlooked. The speaker now uses analyst predictions and other methods to evaluate valuation before making an investment decision. Other important factors like strong competitive advantages, great management, and positive growth outlook should also be considered before looking at valuation. Ignoring valuation can lead to costly mistakes.

    • Investing for wealth and learning from mistakesInvesting requires education, comes with risks, and can build wealth. Listeners are encouraged to sign up for the hosts' investing course and support the podcast.

      Learning from this podcast episode is that investing can be a valuable tool for building wealth, but it comes with risks and requires education. The hosts shared their personal experiences and mistakes, emphasizing the importance of learning from them to avoid making the same errors. They encourage listeners to sign up for their a-z investing course as a resource to become confident investors. The hosts also asked for listeners' support by sharing the podcast on social media and giving it a positive review. They expressed gratitude for their season sponsor, Trading 2 on 2, and offered a referral link for a free mystery share. Remember, investing involves risks, but with the right knowledge and resources, you can build wealth and enjoy life.

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