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    #310 - The relationship between testosterone and prostate cancer, testosterone replacement therapy, and tools for predicting cancer aggressiveness and guiding therapy | Ted Schaeffer, M.D., Ph.D.

    enJuly 22, 2024
    What was the main focus of the Traverse trial?
    Did testosterone replacement therapy increase prostate cancer diagnoses?
    How does the Androgen Receptor score impact treatment decisions?
    What are the risks associated with Testosterone Replacement Therapy?
    How does PSA serve as a biomarker in prostate cancer?

    Podcast Summary

    • Testosterone and Prostate CancerThe Traverse trial showed no increase in prostate cancer diagnoses among hypogonadal men receiving testosterone therapy, but those who did develop the condition had higher initial PSA levels and greater PSA increases.

      The Traverse trial, which investigated the use of exogenous testosterone and its impact on the risk of cardiovascular disease, also provided valuable insights into the relationship between testosterone and prostate cancer. The study, which involved hypogonadal men, showed no increase in prostate cancer diagnoses among those receiving testosterone replacement therapy compared to the placebo group. Despite a low incidence of prostate cancer in the cohort, those who developed the condition had higher initial PSA levels and greater PSA increases during the trial. These findings offer reassurance for men with low PSAs and suggest that testosterone therapy does not increase the risk of prostate cancer in this population. However, it's important to note that this study has limitations, and individual cases may still warrant careful consideration and monitoring.

    • Testosterone and Prostate CancerExisting data suggests that testosterone levels within similar ranges can monitor prostate cancer in men on testosterone supplementation, but more research is needed to fully understand the relationship between testosterone and prostate cancer risk.

      While there is ongoing debate about the relationship between testosterone supplementation and prostate cancer risk, existing data suggests that testosterone levels in generally similar ranges can be used to monitor prostate cancer in men on exogenous testosterone. The study mentioned did not find a significant difference in prostate cancer incidence between groups, but the sample size and trial length may not have been large enough to detect a difference. Additionally, the saturation theory suggests that once androgen receptors in the prostate are saturated with testosterone or dihydrotestosterone, additional levels may not lead to increased risk or growth of prostate cancer. This theory, which applies to various receptor super families, may help explain why testosterone supplementation has limited impact on prostate cancer initiation and propagation. It's important to note that more research is needed to fully understand the relationship between testosterone and prostate cancer risk.

    • DHT and Prostate HealthThe conversion of testosterone to DHT in the prostate gland and hair follicles amplifies its effects and can lead to health issues like BPH and aggressive prostate cancer.

      The conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in the prostate gland and hair follicles plays a significant role in their respective functions and potential health issues. While the saturation level for testosterone in muscle tissue for anabolic needs is likely much higher, in the prostate and hair follicles, the presence of 5-alpha reductase enzyme leads to the conversion of testosterone to DHT, which is about 10 times more potent. This amplification effect can have implications for men taking exogenous testosterone, potentially leading to prostate-related issues such as Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (BPH) and hair loss. The New England Journal of Medicine study discussed earlier found that lower testosterone levels are associated with a higher risk of aggressive prostate cancer. These cancers are less reliant on traditional growth factors and have different vulnerabilities to treatments. The findings from this study, along with subsequent research, suggest that understanding the role of androgen-responsive genes and their engagement with the androgen receptor in prostate cancer can provide valuable insights into the behavior and treatment of more aggressive prostate cancers.

    • MRNA-based assaysMRNA-based assays like ARA signature and Decipher score offer insights into the aggressiveness and androgen receptor signaling of prostate cancer, influencing treatment decisions for more aggressive tumors

      Advanced molecular testing, specifically mRNA-based assays like the ARA signature and Decipher score, can provide valuable information about the aggressiveness and androgen receptor signaling of prostate cancer tumors. These tests can help identify outlier tumors with aggressive features even in lower-grade cancers and guide treatment decisions for more aggressive tumors. For example, in a Gleason 3+3 patient, the findings from these tests may influence the frequency of surveillance or the type of treatment, such as intensifying radiation therapy with advanced androgen suppression agents. While these tests are not yet definitive in determining the need for more aggressive or different treatments for low AR output tumors, ongoing clinical trials are exploring this possibility. Overall, these advanced molecular tests offer valuable insights into the molecular characteristics of prostate cancer and can inform personalized treatment plans.

    • AR score, Testosterone Replacement TherapyAR score can guide treatment decisions for localized prostate cancer, with low scores suggesting intensified ADT and high scores favoring standard ADT or surgical resection. TRT should be considered with caution, taking into account overall health and cancer risk.

      The Androgen Receptor (AR) score can help inform treatment decisions for patients with localized prostate cancer, particularly those with higher-grade tumors. Those with low AR scores may benefit from intensified Androgen Deprivation Therapy (ADT), while those with higher scores may be better off with standard ADT or surgical resection. Ongoing studies will provide more insight into the use of precision medicine in prostate cancer treatment. Regarding Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT), it's essential to consider a patient's overall health and cancer risk when deciding whether to initiate or continue TRT. While there are potential risks associated with TRT, such as the development or detection of prostate cancer, there is no evidence that TRT causes acceleration or propagation of someone's prostate cancer. Ultimately, the decision to initiate or continue TRT should be made in consultation with a healthcare provider, taking into account the individual's symptoms, overall health, and cancer risk.

    • Prostate cancer treatment: radiation vs surgeryFactors influencing the choice between radiation therapy and surgery for prostate cancer include the tumor's response to testosterone. Androgen-dependent tumors may benefit from androgen suppression, while less aggressive tumors may not require long-term suppression. Androgen suppression can lead to side effects, but ongoing trials aim to minimize exposure.

      The decision between radiation therapy and surgery for prostate cancer depends on various factors, including the tumor's response to testosterone. Low-grade prostate cancers that develop in a high testosterone environment are more likely to be androgen-dependent and may benefit from androgen suppression. In contrast, cancers that develop in a low testosterone environment may be less dependent on androgens and may use other growth pathways. For more aggressive prostate cancers, such as those with a Gleason score of 7 or higher, the approach is different. Androgen suppression is often necessary for radiation therapy to be effective. However, this can lead to significant side effects, including hypogonadism. The ongoing NRG trials aim to expose fewer men to androgen suppression by identifying less aggressive tumors that may not require long-term androgen suppression. It's essential to weigh the benefits and risks of each treatment option carefully and consider the patient's overall health and quality of life. The decision should not be based solely on morbidity differences between surgery and radiation, as both have improved significantly over the past few decades.

    • PSA biomarker in prostate cancerThe sensitive PSA biomarker in prostate cancer enables more precise treatment and earlier detection of recurrences, leading to more conservative use of adjuvant therapy and potential reduction of unnecessary hormone therapy in the future for breast cancer patients as well.

      The exquisitely sensitive biomarker, PSA, in prostate cancer allows for more precise and targeted treatment approaches compared to breast cancer, where there is no equivalent biomarker. This leads to more conservative use of adjuvant therapy and earlier detection of recurrences in prostate cancer. The hope is that breast cancer research will advance to utilize similar approaches, such as cell-free DNA testing, to monitor for recurrence and provide more targeted therapies. This would potentially reduce the number of women receiving unnecessary hormone therapy. The discussion also highlighted the benefits of becoming a member of The Drive podcast, including access to exclusive content and member-only benefits.

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    • Glutamine as a source for making glycogen—insights from studying the altered metabolism of ICU patients [1:14:15];
    • How exercise mobilizes glucose transporters—an important factor in diabetic patients [1:20:15];
    • Metrics for finding Zone 2 threshold—lactate, heart rate, and more [1:24:00];
    • Optimal Zone 2 training: dose, frequency, duration, and type of exercise [1:40:30];
    • How to incorporate high intensity training (Zone 5) to increase VO2 max and optimize fitness [1:50:30];
    • Compounding benefits of Zone 2 exercise and how we can improve metabolic health into old age [2:01:00];
    • The effects of metformin, NAD, and supplements on mitochondrial function [2:04:30];
    • The role of lactate and exercise in cancer [2:12:45];
    • How assessing metabolic parameters in long COVID patients provides insights into this disease [2:18:30];
    • The advantages of using cellular surrogates of metabolism instead of VO2 max for prescribing exercise [2:25:00];
    • Metabolomics reveals how cellular metabolism is altered in sedentary individuals [2:33:00];
    • Cellular changes in the metabolism of people with diabetes and metabolic syndrome [2:38:30]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enJuly 08, 2024

    #308 - AMA #61: Sun exposure, sunscreen, and skin health: relationship between sun exposure and skin cancer, vitamin D production, and photoaging, how to choose a sunscreen, and more

    #308 - AMA #61: Sun exposure, sunscreen, and skin health: relationship between sun exposure and skin cancer, vitamin D production, and photoaging, how to choose a sunscreen, and more

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    In this “Ask Me Anything” (AMA) episode, Peter delves into two topics that have generated a lot of questions over the years: skin cancer and sunscreen. He begins by exploring the basics of UV radiation, discussing its effects on vitamin D conversion, photoaging, and its role in skin cancer. He examines various skin types, discussing their implications for sun exposure and vitamin D levels, as well as how to determine where you fall on the skin type scale. He then delves into the various types of skin cancer, with a particular emphasis on melanoma, exploring its complex relationship with UV exposure and other contributing risk factors. Additionally, he covers tanning beds, the importance of early skin cancer detection through regular skin checks, and the often confusing topic of sunscreen. He explains how sunscreen affects UV radiation and skin cancer risk, what SPF levels to choose, the differences between organic and mineral sunscreens, and what to consider when selecting the best sunscreen for your needs.

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    We discuss:

    • The impact of UV radiation on the skin [2:00];
    • Understanding solar UV: from the electromagnetic spectrum to skin health [3:45];
    • The role of sunlight in vitamin D production [8:30];
    • Factors contributing to vitamin D deficiency: insufficient UV exposure, magnesium levels, and more [9:45];
    • Sun exposure needs for different skin types, and the limitations of current studies in defining vitamin D deficiency [12:45];
    • The acute and long-term effects of excessive UV exposure: sunburn, photoaging, and the increased risk of skin cancer [15:30];
    • Types of skin cancer and associations with UV exposure [17:45];
    • The complex relationship between melanoma and UV exposure [22:15];
    • Why UV exposure alone doesn’t necessarily explain the risk for melanoma [25:15];
    • Other risk factors for melanoma [29:15];
    • Tanning beds and skin cancer risk [34:45];
    • Balancing sun exposure: benefits and risks [38:15];
    • Tattoos and sun exposure [40:30];
    • The importance of regular skin checks, dermatologists, and emerging technologies showing promise for early detection of cancer [41:45];
    • Self-skin checks: what to look for [46:30];
    • Prevalence of skin cancer and the importance of early detection [49:30];
    • Summary of the major risk factors for melanoma [54:15];
    • The role of sunscreen in reducing skin cancer risk [55:45];
    • How sunscreen works, the differences between chemical and mineral sunscreens, an explanation of SPF, and more [58:30];
    • How to determine the appropriate sunscreen SPF to use based on the UV index [1:04:45];
    • Choosing the right sunscreen for your individual needs [1:07:00];
    • The impact of water and perspiration on sunscreen effectiveness [1:12:00];
    • Chemical vs. mineral sunscreens: safety concerns and recommendations [1:14:00];
    • Concerns about hormone effects from chemical sunscreens [1:19:15];
    • Sunscreen summary: skin types, key considerations, recommended brands, and more [1:23:15]; and
    • More.

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    The Peter Attia Drive
    enJuly 01, 2024