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    4 Disciplines for successful CMO & Flexspace investing [commercial property, development, investor]

    enMarch 31, 2022

    About this Episode

    Some Landlord investors can make the mistake of launching straight into offering Flexspace without thinking through the different skill sets required.  Being a Commercial property investor is one thing, but the process of purchasing the right property, designing the space, developing it out and then operating a Flexspace on a day to day basis is a tangled web of decision making that could make or break the project. Compliance, space optimisation, fire regulations, efficient tax structures and customer retention all transcend the different layers of each project development. 

    Which skills do you possess and where are the gaps you are going to need help with? Working that out is critical to your project success.

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    Property Investing, Commercial Real Estate, Strategies, CMO, Lease, Licence Agreement, Cashflow, Vacancy rates, Agents, Best Commercial property podcast, how to buy, Valuations, ROI, residential, assets, Flexspace, office space, How to get started: https://www.commercialpropertyinvestor.co.uk/

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    "If an area is up and coming, there are developments going on, but maybe not too much, then you know those are some big ticks ✅ in the boxes." 

    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    If you want to learn more about investing in Commercial Property why not consider joining the CPI-Network of commercial property investors, who are working, learning and supporting each other on the Get in The Swim Membership

    https://commercialpropertyinvestor.co.uk/get-in-the-swim/

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    "One of the key ones that a lot of people actually forget about, and if they're working with the same advisors they do with residential, their advisors may not necessarily bring this up until the last minute, when they remember, it's actually the big one: VAT." 

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    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    If you want to learn more about investing in Commercial Property why not consider joining the CPI-Network of commercial property investors, who are working, learning and supporting each other on the Get in The Swim Membership

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    "Your gut knows that that clear vision is really important for a successful deal." 

    "And every no is a lesson, right? Every successful deal is a testament to your growing instincts." 

    "Trust your instinct. In the business world, clarity is really important."

    VALUABLE RESOURCES

    If you want to learn more about investing in Commercial Property why not consider joining the CPI-Network of commercial property investors, who are working, learning and supporting each other on the Get in The Swim Membership

    https://commercialpropertyinvestor.co.uk/get-in-the-swim/

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