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    #448 - Jon Birger - Are Women In Charge Of The Dating Market?

    enMarch 17, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • The imbalance of educated women and men in dating marketWomen need to broaden their dating pools and consider partners from diverse backgrounds to improve their dating prospects. Encouraging open-mindedness and inclusivity in relationships is essential.

      The changing dynamics of education and societal trends have led to an imbalance in the dating market, with more women graduating from college than men, resulting in a surplus of educated women and a scarcity of educated men. This imbalance, combined with the increasing trend of assortative mating, where university graduates tend to date and marry other graduates, has made it more challenging for women to find suitable partners. The root cause of this issue is the increasing homogeneity of social circles and the tendency to date and marry people with similar educational backgrounds. To address this issue, women, as well as men, need to broaden their dating pools and consider partners from diverse backgrounds. Additionally, it's essential to challenge the societal norms that place men in the role of sexual initiators and to encourage more proactive behavior from both genders. Ultimately, the key to improving dating prospects for everyone is to embrace open-mindedness and inclusivity in our relationships.

    • Impact of social stratification and economic changes on dating patternsSocial stratification and economic changes influence dating patterns by altering the availability of potential partners, leading to differences in mating strategies, virginity rates, and even sexual violence.

      Social stratification and economic changes have led to a decreased intermingling of university graduates and non-graduates, potentially impacting dating patterns. The sex ratio hypothesis suggests that the availability of potential partners influences mating strategies, leading to differences in dating behavior, virginity rates, and even sexual violence. For instance, when there are more women than men, there is a tendency towards more casual sex and fewer dates before sex. Conversely, when there are more men than women, there is a tendency towards more dates before sex and fewer instances of sexual violence. These patterns have been observed not just in humans but also in other mammals and primates. Additionally, research on testosterone levels suggests that men in relationships or with children have lower testosterone levels, making them less likely to engage in risky or violent behavior. However, it's important to note that these behaviors may not be conscious decisions but rather a result of cultural shifts influenced by sex ratios.

    • Societal imbalances in the sexual marketplace lead to dangerous consequencesSocietal imbalances in the sexual marketplace can increase testosterone levels and lead to antisocial behavior in both men and women, validating experiences of some while leaving others seeking solutions.

      Societal imbalances in the sexual marketplace can lead to dangerous consequences for both men and women, and these issues are not limited to specific genders. The competitive nature of dating and relationships can increase testosterone levels and lead to antisocial behavior in both sexes. The problem is not unique to urban areas, as rural regions also experience significant imbalances. The response to the first book, Datanomics, was largely relief from women who felt validated in their experiences, while men, who typically don't engage with dating or self-help books, had varying reactions. The identification of the issue in the sexual marketplace leaves an open question: what can be done about it? This question led to the writing of the second book.

    • The importance of hope and solutions in self-help booksTo write a successful self-help book in the dating and relationship genre, focus on providing hope and practical solutions for readers.

      When writing a self-help book, particularly in the dating and relationship genre, it's essential to provide hope and solutions for readers. Publishers often look for uplifting and positive content that resonates with audiences. The speaker learned this the hard way when his editor requested more hopeful elements in his book, despite his initial reluctance. He's now considering writing about the imbalance in the dating market, recognizing the need for optimism and practical solutions. The speaker also acknowledged that the title and tone of the book can significantly impact its appeal to readers. Ultimately, the goal is to provide valuable insights and actionable steps to help people improve their dating lives. By focusing on solutions and hope, self-help books in this genre are more likely to connect with readers and succeed in the market.

    • College dating culture influenced by sex ratiosHigher male-to-female ratios lead to competitive dating scenes and fewer relationships, while larger female populations foster more hookups and imbalanced gender dynamics.

      The prevailing sex ratios at different colleges significantly influence the dating culture and experiences of students. For instance, schools with a higher number of men than women, like Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, often reported more competitive dating scenes and fewer relationships. On the other hand, colleges with more women than men, such as New York University and Sarah Lawrence College, were described as having more hookups and imbalanced gender dynamics. These trends not only impact the likelihood of forming relationships but also shape the overall behavior and attitudes towards dating. By 2030, the sex ratio is projected to be 2:1 in favor of women at a 4-year US college, indicating that this trend will continue to grow more pronounced.

    • Impact of individual actions and systemic changes on dating strategiesWomen can be more assertive in dating, and the Me Too movement clarifies boundaries, but systemic changes like encouraging more men to attend college are also needed.

      Individuals have the power to impact their dating strategies, while systemic changes are needed to address longer-term issues like encouraging more men to attend college. The author's book, "Make Your Move," focuses on encouraging women to be more assertive and suggests getting off dating apps due to concerns about the negative impact of online dating on relationships. The Me Too movement has brought clarity to previously gray area behaviors and is generally good for dating, but may require rethinking traditional dating strategies that revolve around playing hard to get.

    • Women hold the advantage in modern dating due to men's fear of being labeled a predatorWomen who make the first move have a better chance of positive experiences and starting relationships, but men are feeling left out and confused by women's new approach to dating.

      The dynamics of dating have shifted, and women now hold a significant advantage due to men's increased reluctance to make the first move out of fear of being labeled a predator. This fear stems from the Me Too movement and the heightened awareness of consent. Women who take the initiative and make the first move have a better chance of having a positive experience and increasing their odds of starting a relationship. However, this dynamic also leaves young men feeling lonely and terrified of rejection or being labeled inappropriately. The solution could be for women to update their approach and recognize that men are no longer playing by the old rules. Both uninterested and interested women are using similar strategies to respond to male advances, creating confusion for men. This shift in the dating landscape presents challenges but also opportunities for women to take charge and increase their chances of finding a meaningful connection.

    • Women making the first move can prevent misunderstandings and rejectionIn today's dating scene, women showing clear interest can encourage men to make a move, reducing ambiguity and making it easier for both parties to proceed.

      The dynamics of dating have shifted, and women who are willing to make the first move or at least make it clear to men that they are interested can help prevent misunderstandings and rejection. According to dating coach Francesca Hogy, if a woman appears indifferent, men may interpret it as a lack of interest and move on. In today's dating scene, men are less likely to make the first move if a woman doesn't show clear interest. This doesn't mean women have to be aggressive or make grand gestures; a simple, clear signal can be enough. For example, a woman at a party who liked a man but saw him hesitating could ask him directly if he would ask for her number. This approach can help reduce ambiguity and make it easier for both parties to proceed. Additionally, research shows that workplace relationships have a high success rate, as couples already know each other before starting a romantic connection.

    • Navigating the complexities of workplace romanceWorkplace romances come with advantages and challenges, including seeing a partner's best and worst behaviors, but clear boundaries and societal norms make it a risky endeavor.

      Dating someone from the workplace can be advantageous because you get to see their best and worst behaviors. However, workplace dating comes with challenges, especially in today's context where boundaries need to be clear. The story of Bill and Melinda Gates illustrates this, as their initial interaction might not be seen as acceptable in today's workplace. Despite the risks, some people prioritize romance over corporate rules. However, it's essential to note that men and women struggle to decipher each other's flirtations, and the current environment makes it even more challenging due to the fear of awkwardness and potential backlash. The increasing neurotic society and societal norms that don't encourage women to be sexual protagonists further complicate matters. Ultimately, these factors contribute to the rising trend of men in their late teens to thirties reporting no sexual activity in the last year.

    • Advantage for Women in Their Twenties to Find a PartnerBeing proactive in dating and starting the search earlier in life can lead to better outcomes for women in their twenties, defying the belief that focusing solely on career is more beneficial.

      Women in their twenties have an advantage when it comes to finding a partner due to the shift in societal norms and the "suitor's advantage." According to research, the party who initiates the match, on average, has better outcomes than the one on the receiving end. Historically, men have had the advantage of being able to ask out their first choice, while women had to wait to be approached. However, in today's society where communication of romantic interest is often unclear, those who are proactive stand out and have a higher likelihood of ending up with a higher-ranked partner. Additionally, starting the search for a partner earlier in life, rather than focusing solely on career, can lead to better outcomes as well. Contrary to popular belief, research shows that married or coupled individuals actually earn more than singles.

    • The odds of finding a suitable partner for older women decrease as the dating pool becomes smaller and more competitive.Older women face a smaller and more competitive dating pool due to societal preferences for youth and fertility, making it harder to find suitable partners.

      While the dating scene may not be more difficult for educated men as they age, it becomes increasingly challenging for women. This can be compared to the game of musical chairs, where the odds of losing increase as more players and chairs are eliminated. Women, on average, tend to date men their age or older, whereas men have a broader range of potential partners. Additionally, men are often more attracted to youth and fertility, which can make it harder for older women to find suitable partners. Education and career advancement in a woman's twenties may not negatively impact her chances of finding a partner, but the dating pool becomes smaller and more competitive as she gets older.

    • Men don't see a big difference in attractiveness between older and younger women, except for young ones or celebrities.Men generally don't perceive a significant age difference in women's attractiveness, but older women may face competition from younger, more experienced women. Reverse age gaps can help reduce competition and provide greater support and understanding in relationships.

      Contrary to popular belief, men generally don't perceive a significant difference in attractiveness between older and younger women, except for extremely young women or celebrities. Older women often find themselves competing with younger, more experienced women for the attention of men, leading to potential issues with competitiveness and status. However, reverse age gaps in relationships can help address this problem by reducing competition and allowing for greater support and understanding between partners. Additionally, research suggests that women tend to prefer taller partners and place a higher value on financial stability in a potential spouse than men do.

    • Men's preferences for partners with less earning power may not apply to all womenWomen are not more choosy about partners based on education, and there's a trend towards mixed-collar relationships. Men's competitiveness may not apply to relationships with older or less educated women. The data challenges traditional assumptions about gender roles and partner preferences.

      While men may prefer a partner who earns less than 40% of other women based on resources and status, the reality is more complex for women. Men's competitiveness may not apply to relationships with older or less educated women. Contrary to stereotypes, women are not more choosy about partners based on education, and there is an increasing trend towards mixed-collar relationships. David Boss's prediction of a large proportion of highly educated women never marrying men in lower-status jobs may not hold true, as there is evidence of increasing openness to partners from diverse backgrounds. Additionally, there is a trend towards assortative mating, but recent data suggests a shift towards more open-mindedness when it comes to choosing partners. Overall, the data challenges traditional assumptions about gender roles and partner preferences.

    • The way we meet matters for authentic relationshipsPrioritize real-life interactions for more genuine and comfortable dating experiences, as online apps can lead to consumerist mindset and unique safety concerns for women.

      The way we meet potential partners plays a significant role in the success and authenticity of relationships. The speaker argues that the consumerist mindset prevalent in online dating apps can lead to treating romantic connections like shopping for the best deal. However, meeting people in real life and getting to know them organically can lead to more meaningful and authentic connections. Furthermore, women face unique safety concerns when using online dating apps, leading to heightened anxiety and fear on first dates, which can hinder the potential for falling in love. The stories of how we meet are important, and the speaker encourages prioritizing real-world interactions over online ones to foster more genuine and comfortable dating experiences.

    • Taking initiative in dating can lead to better outcomesWomen can gain competitive edges by approaching men and diversifying dating methods, leading to increased chances of finding true love and happiness.

      Women can gain competitive edges in the dating scene by taking initiative and approaching men, as well as diversifying their dating methods beyond online platforms. This goes against cultural norms but can lead to better outcomes, as shown in the podcasting industry where consistency is a rare and valuable trait. Furthermore, online dating may not be the most effective or healthy way to find a partner, as studies suggest a higher divorce rate for couples who meet through apps compared to meeting in person through friends, family, work, or other social settings. By being bold and proactive, and considering various avenues for meeting potential partners, women can increase their chances of finding true love and happiness.

    • Finding Love Through Real-Life ExperiencesEmbrace the awkwardness of meeting new people in real life, don't limit yourself to online dating, and consider looking for partners outside of your college circle.

      While online dating has its advantages, building a meaningful connection through shared real-world experiences is crucial for finding true love. The speaker emphasizes that many people already have someone they know and like from their real life whom they're interested in dating. He encourages taking a chance and embracing the awkwardness, rather than relying on dating apps and strangers. Additionally, the speaker suggests that women should consider unchecking the college box when looking for a partner, as online dating can lead to a transactional and arbitrary way of selecting potential mates. However, it's important to acknowledge that there are still men who may not meet certain quantifiable metrics of success but could make fantastic partners. Overall, the speaker advocates for a more organic and authentic approach to finding love.

    • Expanding dating pool beyond stereotypesConsidering men from various backgrounds can lead to unexpected and meaningful connections, challenging preconceived notions about desirability.

      Expanding the dating pool beyond traditionally sought-after partners can lead to unexpected and meaningful connections for women. John Burger, a relationship expert, shares his observations from his experiences with blue-collar men, who are often overlooked but can offer genuine companionship and financial stability. These men, who are often stereotyped as less desirable, may surprise women with their charm, intelligence, and earning potential. John encourages women to broaden their horizons and consider the merits of men from various backgrounds. To learn more about John's insights and connect with him, visit his website johnburger.com or find him on Instagram @john_burgerone. Additionally, women can join book clubs on the platform bookyea.com to engage with authors, including John, for remote events. This perspective offers a fresh perspective on the dating scene and encourages women to explore new possibilities beyond their preconceived notions.

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