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    #492: Richard Schwartz — IFS, Psychedelic Experiences Without Drugs, and Finding Inner Peace for Our Many Parts

    enJanuary 14, 2021

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      Optimizing sleep and nutrition are essential for overall well-being. The speaker shares his personal experience of prioritizing sleep on a Helix Midnight Luxe mattress and taking Athletic Greens supplements for comprehensive nutrition. Helix Sleep offers a customized mattress selection based on body type and sleep preferences, with a risk-free trial period and discount for listeners. Athletic Greens provides a nutrient-dense supplement with various vitamins, minerals, probiotics, and adaptogens, offering a free Vitamin D supplement and travel packs with a subscription. IFS, an inner-focused therapeutic approach, can help individuals work with their inner critic and improve mental health, as demonstrated in a live demo during the episode. Both Helix Sleep and Athletic Greens offer exclusive discounts for listeners.

    • Discovering the IFS model through personal healingThe IFS model, developed for managing conflicting emotions and parts of oneself, offers a non-pathologizing, optimistic, and empowering approach to healing, applicable to various contexts including therapy, corporations, and classrooms.

      The Internal Family Systems (IFS) model, developed by Richard Schwartz, offers a practical and effective toolkit for managing conflicting emotions and parts of oneself. This approach, which has become widely used in psychotherapy, particularly for trauma, provides a non-pathologizing, optimistic, and empowering perspective. IFS can help individuals reconcile disavowed parts of themselves and is not limited to heavily traumatized patients. Schwartz discovered this approach while working as a family therapist at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where he found that focusing on and separating from parts of patients allowed them to shift into a state of curiosity, calm, confidence, and compassion. This model has since been shown to be evidence-based and has expanded to be used in various contexts, including corporations and classrooms. Personally, Schwartz shared that after publicly disclosing his own history of childhood sexual abuse, he was surprised by the response and the impact it had on him. Despite anticipating a wave of emotions and potential backlash, he found the first few days to be tranquil. The IFS model, which he has used in his own healing journey, allowed him to contend with the emotions and parts of himself that emerged from sharing his story.

    • Experiencing uncluttered consciousness can bring up unexpected emotionsTaking a break from constant activity can lead to unexpected emotions and memories, but can also provide opportunities for connection and healing.

      Taking a break from constant activity and allowing oneself to experience uncluttered consciousness can be challenging and may bring up unexpected emotions, such as anger and rage. The speaker, who had recently shared a personal story about past sexual abuse on a podcast, was surprised by the flood of memories and emotions that surfaced during this quiet period. However, the experience also led to a significant outcome: many people reached out to share their own experiences of abuse and trauma, providing a valuable opportunity for connection and support. Another example of the transformative power of acknowledging and addressing internal experiences comes from the story of Roxanne, shared in a piece on Medium. In the early 1980s, a family therapist named Richard Schwartz was working with clients suffering from bulimia. Despite successfully reorganizing their families according to the textbook approach, his clients continued to struggle with binge-purge behaviors. Frustrated, Schwartz began asking why and discovered his clients were describing internal parts with distinct identities and autonomy. Through this new approach, clients were able to relate to these parts in a different way, leading to healing and understanding.

    • Understanding the Trauma-Informed Approach to Multiple Personality DisordersTrauma-informed therapy shifts from controlling methods to curiosity and dialogue, recognizing that seemingly problematic parts of the mind might be protective responses to trauma and attachment injuries, and deserve love and understanding.

      The therapist in this discussion discovered that the different parts within a person, which were previously assumed to be distinct entities causing issues like eating disorders and self-harm, might not be what they seem. Instead, they could be seen as valuable parts of the individual, forced out of their natural states into protective roles due to trauma and attachment injuries. The therapist shifted her approach from controlling and coercive methods to curiosity and dialogue, leading to transformative outcomes. This perspective challenges the traditional view of multiple personality disorders and suggests that all parts of the mind, born with us from birth, are valuable and deserve love and understanding.

    • Recognizing the Positive Intention Behind Challenging BehaviorsIFS therapy approach views challenging behaviors as adaptive responses to past trauma, leading to greater compassion and understanding for oneself and others.

      The Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy approach, which uses maps and MDMA under the guidance of trained therapists, offers a paradigm shift in understanding behaviors and symptoms, particularly for those with severe PTSD. Rather than viewing these behaviors as maladaptive or problematic, IFS recognizes that they may have once been adaptive responses to past trauma. This non-pathologizing perspective can lead to greater compassion and understanding for oneself and others. It's important to note that this perspective can be a tough sell in the mental health field, but the experiences of countless clients and therapists using this approach around the world have shown its effectiveness. As Frank Anderson, a former Harvard Medical School instructor, noted, "Every part, every symptom has a positive intention." When we recognize this, we can begin to see the value in even the most challenging behaviors and work towards healing from a place of understanding and compassion.

    • Understanding the Inner World: Vulnerable Children, Protectors, and FirefightersThe Inner World is made up of vulnerable children, protectors, and firefighters. Trauma can lead to extreme parts, but self-compassion and acceptance can help heal and improve human behavior.

      Our inner world is made up of various parts, each with unique roles and functions. These parts include vulnerable inner children, or exiles, which can be hurt and locked away due to trauma or cultural rejection. Protector parts emerge to shield us from these emotions and memories, sometimes becoming overbearing managers or caretakers. Firefighter parts aim to douse or distract from the pain, leading to addictions or extreme measures like suicide. IFS reveals that the more trauma experienced, the more extreme these parts become. The goal is to understand and connect with these parts, offering self-compassion and acceptance, rather than suppressing or fighting them. This approach, rooted in both Buddhist mindfulness and practical IFS framework, aims to help individuals become better humans by healing and going beyond their baseline.

    • Exploring the Inner World with IFS TherapyIFS therapy facilitates communication between different parts of the mind, enabling healing and self-discovery through a central, undamaged 'self'.

      Inside Family Systems (IFS) therapy involves working with different parts of the mind, helping them communicate and heal. The therapist acts as a mediator, creating space for parts to interact and leading to the emergence of a central, healing "self." This self, which is present in everyone, is not damaged and has the innate ability to heal. IFS mirrors the effects of psychedelic experiences, allowing individuals to access their inner healing intelligence. The therapist waits for clients to exhibit certain "C words" (curiosity, clarity, creativity, and connectedness) before guiding them to work with their parts. The therapy has been found to be naturally practiced by individuals when they access their inner selves, and it has become a daily life practice for many. To illustrate, listeners can explore a part of themselves they'd like to understand better or change their relationship with, which may lead to discovering underlying fears or anxieties.

    • Understanding and acknowledging anxious or fearful partsAcknowledging and understanding our anxious or fearful parts can lead to empathy, compassion, and self-connection. Approach them with kindness and curiosity to begin healing and growing.

      Acknowledging and understanding our anxious or fearful parts, rather than trying to get rid of them, can lead to empathy and compassion. By focusing on these parts and giving them space, we can communicate with them and discover what they want us to know. This practice can help us build a stronger connection with ourselves and move towards a place of trust and faith. It's important to remember that these parts are not intentionally causing harm, but are instead overwhelmed and unsure. By approaching them with kindness and curiosity, we can begin to heal and grow.

    • Creating a safe space for trauma survivors to shareEmpathy and effective communication are vital for helping trauma survivors share their experiences. By creating a safe and empathetic space, we can encourage them to explore and express their feelings fully, allowing them to heal.

      Effective communication and empathy are crucial in helping someone who has experienced trauma. In this conversation, the speaker invites a person, who is four to five feet away, to open up about their anxiety and past traumas. The speaker reassures them that they are cared for and creates a safe space for them to share. The person reveals the abuse they experienced as a child, and the speaker encourages them to explore and share their feelings fully. The speaker listens attentively and validates their experiences, allowing them to paint a fuller picture of their past. The conversation ends with the speaker offering to be with the person in their past, providing them with the support they needed at that time. Through this process, the speaker demonstrates the importance of creating a safe and empathetic space for someone to share their traumas and validating their experiences.

    • Healing past traumas through imagery and introspectionImagery and introspection techniques can help individuals process and release past traumas or uncomfortable emotions, leading to improved emotional well-being.

      Through the use of guided imagery and deep introspection, individuals can access and address past traumas or uncomfortable emotions, providing them with a sense of relief and healing. In this discussion, a therapist helps a client connect with his past self and enables him to release his fear by imagining it as an object that can be put into a fire. The client's body language and demeanor change, indicating a significant improvement in his emotional state. This technique can be applied to various situations, allowing individuals to process and release negative emotions, ultimately leading to a greater sense of peace and well-being.

    • Identifying and healing inner parts through parts workParts work allows individuals to access and address separate parts causing distress, promoting healing and personal growth, including for those dealing with suicidal ideation.

      During a therapeutic session using parts work, a person can gain quick access to their inner self and identify separate parts that may be causing distress or hindering personal growth. By acknowledging and empathizing with these parts, a person can heal traumas and unburden themselves, allowing compassionate and confident qualities to emerge. This process can be particularly impactful for individuals dealing with suicidal ideation, as recognizing and addressing these parts can help them see that they are not defined by them and that healing is possible. Overall, parts work is a powerful tool for personal growth and self-discovery.

    • Understanding emotions as protectorsRecognizing emotions as parts of us trying to protect or cope can help us engage in compassionate dialogue and find alternative ways to address their underlying needs, promoting healing and moving past suffering.

      Our difficult emotions and thoughts, including suicidal ideation, are not who we truly are, but rather parts of us trying to protect or cope. By recognizing this and engaging in compassionate dialogue with these parts, we can find alternative ways to address their underlying needs and move past the suffering. This approach, which involves honoring each part and offering hope for change, has been effective in helping suicidal individuals find a reason to live. It's essential to remember that healing may require both inner work and external support to address the root causes of their pain. As Carl Rogers wisely noted, "the curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change."

    • Beyond acceptance: Active inner work in mental health and psychedelicsIFS encourages individuals to become active inner parents or leaders towards their parts, going beyond passive acceptance in mental health work. Proper preparation, guidance, and follow-up care are crucial for safe and productive psychedelic experiences.

      While acceptance is an important first step in mental health work, it may not be enough to help individuals transform or unburden themselves. IFS, or Internal Family Systems, goes beyond this by encouraging individuals to become active inner parents or leaders towards their parts, rather than just passive witnesses. Regarding psychedelics, while they can offer unique experiences and benefits, they are not suitable for everyone and come with risks. IFS can serve as a helpful map for navigating these experiences, both in preparation and during and after the sessions, to ensure a safe and productive journey. It's important to remember that not all stories of psychedelic experiences represent the full spectrum of possibilities, and clinicians who work with these substances have seen the full range of outcomes, from positive to traumatic. Thus, proper preparation, guidance, and follow-up care are crucial.

    • Daily practice of Internal Family Systems (IFS) for managing panic parts and effective communication in relationshipsRecognize and work with different parts of the psyche through IFS for daily self-management and conflict resolution in relationships. Seek help when needed, practice self-awareness, and focus on effective communication to prevent 'protector wars'.

      Internal Family Systems (IFS) work, which involves recognizing and working with different parts of the psyche, can be a daily practice. The therapist in this conversation shared her personal experience of using IFS to manage her panic parts during a technical difficulty, emphasizing the importance of self-check-ins and seeking help when needed. The practice can vary from brief daily check-ins to longer sessions with a therapist for healing work. In relationships, protectors, which are parts that take over during conflicts, can create a "protector war." Understanding and acknowledging these protectors can help couples communicate effectively and resolve conflicts. For those without access to a therapist during quarantine, the therapist suggested focusing on self-awareness and communication, recognizing and separating from the protective parts.

    • Identifying and addressing protective parts in relationshipsProtective parts in relationships can unintentionally harm each other, causing a damaging loop. Therapists use a U-turn technique to encourage self-to-self conversations, promoting healing and understanding between individuals. Addressing traumas and anxieties can lead to growth and improvement in the relationship.

      In relationships, protective parts of individuals can unintentionally harm each other, creating a damaging loop. These protectors, which can be triggered by seemingly innocuous actions or words, can cause significant harm to the other person, often without the individuals involved even realizing it. To break this cycle, therapists use a technique called a U-turn, encouraging each person to focus inward, identify and understand their protective parts, and speak from a calmer, more open-hearted place. This allows for self-to-self conversations, promoting healing and understanding between the individuals. Additionally, therapists may help individuals work with parts that are hindering the relationship, allowing their partners to witness and develop empathy for those parts. Traumas and anxieties can serve as "trailheads," leading to the parts that need healing, and addressing these parts can lead to significant growth and improvement in the relationship.

    • Exploring deeper parts of ourselves in IFSIFS encourages understanding symptoms/behaviors with curiosity, not judgment, leading to personal growth and transformation through exploring 'exiles' or parts of ourselves

      Every symptom or behavior can lead us to understanding deeper parts of ourselves in the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model. IFS encourages exploring these parts, or "exiles," with curiosity rather than judgment. For those interested in learning more, resources include the IFS Institute's website, books like "Introduction to IFS" and "You're the One You've Been Waiting For," and an audio course called "Greater Than the Sum of the Parts." The IFS Bible for therapists is "Entirely Enough: Internal Family Systems Therapy, Second Edition," and a manual for a step-by-step approach is "Internal Family Systems Skills Training Manual" by Frank Anderson. The audio course with exercises is a good starting point for laypeople. IFS offers a unique perspective on human nature and can lead to significant personal growth and transformation.

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    [49:58] Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson.

    [52:02] Kevin’s deflated balls.

    [55:49] My single life.

    [59:39] Extending experiential lifespan.

    [1:06:12] This is (Henry Shukman’s) The Way.

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    #732: Martha Beck — The Amazing and Brutal Results of Zero Lies for 365 Days, How to Do a Beginner “Integrity Cleanse,” Lessons from Lion Trackers, and Novel Tactics for Reducing Anxiety

    #732: Martha Beck — The Amazing and Brutal Results of Zero Lies for 365 Days, How to Do a Beginner “Integrity Cleanse,” Lessons from Lion Trackers, and Novel Tactics for Reducing Anxiety

    Dr. Martha Beck has been called “the best-known life coach in America” by NPR and USA Today. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science and has published nine non-fiction books, one novel, and more than 200 magazine articles. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller.

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    #731: Dr. David Spiegel, Stanford U. — Practical Hypnosis, Meditation vs. Hypnosis, Pain Management Without Drugs, The Neurobiology of Trance, and More

    #731: Dr. David Spiegel, Stanford U. — Practical Hypnosis, Meditation vs. Hypnosis, Pain Management Without Drugs, The Neurobiology of Trance, and More

    Dr. David Spiegel is Willson Professor and Associate Chair of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences, Director of the Center on Stress and Health, and Medical Director of the Center for Integrative Medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine, where he has been a member of the academic faculty since 1975. He is the founder of Reveri, the world's first interactive self-hypnosis app.

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    Timestamps:

    [07:00] How Herbert Spiegel was exposed to hypnosis.

    [10:14] Using hypnosis to cure non-epileptic seizures.

    [11:53] What is a forensic psychiatrist?

    [14:43] How hypnosis works.

    [17:54] Hypnosis and the flow state.

    [21:03] How hypnosis differs from meditation.

    [22:38] Determining one’s susceptibility to hypnosis.

    [27:21] I take the eye-roll test.

    [29:33] Thoughts on EMDR.

    [36:29] Therapeutic psychedelics and ego dissolution.

    [41:05] Potential adverse effects of hypnosis?

    [42:34] Accelerated TMS improves response to hypnosis.

    [44:25] Hypnosis as a tool for stress and pain relief.

    [48:56] David treats my back pain with hypnosis.

    [57:09] Replicating this effect with self-hypnosis.

    [57:57] Understanding the science of pain relief.

    [1:03:18] Filtering the hurt from the pain.

    [1:06:37] For us, not against us.

    [1:09:12] Hypnosis vs. other addiction interventions.

    [1:11:41] A mesmerizing tale of hypnotic history.

    [1:16:10] Most surprising patient outcomes.

    [1:24:53] Finding connection to treat the agitated.

    [1:28:40] Who is Reveri designed for?

    [1:31:15] Hypnosis as a first rather than last resort.

    [1:35:02] Further resources and final thoughts.

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    #730: Reed Hastings, Co-Founder of Netflix — How to Cultivate High Performance, The Art of Farming for Dissent, Favorite Failures, and More

    #730: Reed Hastings, Co-Founder of Netflix — How to Cultivate High Performance, The Art of Farming for Dissent, Favorite Failures, and More

    Reed Hastings became executive chairman of Netflix in 2023, after 25 years as CEO. He co-founded Netflix in 1997. Reed is also a majority owner of Powder Mountain. He is currently on the board of several educational organizations including KIPP and Pahara.

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    Timestamps:

    [06:34] Alfred Lee Loomis and Tuxedo Park.

    [07:53] Risk tolerance: nature or nurture?

    [10:56] Cultivating culture that “eats strategy for lunch.”

    [15:41] The logic behind generous severance.

    [17:02] Adapting to Pure chaos.

    [18:44] Reference checking potential hires.

    [20:29] Context vs. control.

    [22:35] Radical candor.

    [24:15] Guardrails for maintaining work/life balance.

    [27:04] Farming for dissent.

    [28:39] Believing in the green crystals.

    [30:54] High-performance team, not family.

    [31:59] The keeper test.

    [32:49] Fire and replace, or replace and fire?

    [33:59] Beyond Entrepreneurship and other recommended reading/viewing.

    [37:46] A favorite failure.

    [40:32] Outstanding leaders.

    [41:10] Reed’s two “religions.”

    [42:19] Powder Mountain.

    [44:44] How Powder Mountain differs from Reed’s other projects.

    [46:24] Powder Mountain’s biggest challenges ahead.

    [47:02] Could Reed ever really retire?

    [47:19] Best investments of time, energy, or money.

    [48:49] How can we improve education in the US?

    [52:48] What class would Reed teach?

    [53:59] Juggling projects without losing focus.

    [55:04] Philanthropy: Why Africa?

    [55:32] Being “big-hearted champions who pick up the trash.”

    [56:28] Reed’s billboard.

    [58:01] Parting thoughts.

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    #729: Legendary Actor Scott Glenn — How to Be Super Fit at 85, Lessons from Marlon Brando, How to Pursue Your Purpose, The Art of Serendipity, Stories of Gunslingers, and More

    #729: Legendary Actor Scott Glenn — How to Be Super Fit at 85, Lessons from Marlon Brando, How to Pursue Your Purpose, The Art of Serendipity, Stories of Gunslingers, and More

    Scott Glenn’s acting career spans nearly 60 years. His impressive film resume includes performances in Apocalypse Now, Urban Cowboy, The Right Stuff, Silverado, The Hunt for Red October, The Silence of the Lambs, Backdraft, The Virgin Suicides, and The Bourne Ultimatum. This year, Scott will return to HBO to join season 3 of The White Lotus.

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    [07:10] Idaho vs. Los Angeles.

    [13:26] Apocalypse Now, self-confidence soon after.

    [17:26] Burt Lancaster’s movie star lessons.

    [23:06] The birth and death of Wes Hightower.

    [32:22] Catching the attention of James Bridges.

    [35:42] Scarlet fever.

    [37:29] From Marine to police reporter.

    [42:12] Berghof Studios and parental advice.

    [50:44] Converting to Judaism.

    [53:36] Lao Tzu: the ultimate mystic?

    [58:16] Letting go with Killer Joe.

    [1:02:53] “Crazy Whitefella Thinking.”

    [1:08:31] Getting out of the way and Erwan Le Corre.

    [1:11:51] Lessons from the “morally phenomenal” Marlon Brando.

    [1:16:26] How Scott’s childhood bout with scarlet fever informed his life’s course.

    [1:19:05] Daily routines and exercises of an in-shape 85-year-old.

    [1:35:12] Securing a serendipitous skill set.

    [1:42:13] Thailand talk.

    [1:46:18] Increasing surface luck.

    [1:47:04] How Scott met and fell in love with his wife.

    [1:53:04] “Just dance.”

    [1:53:46] Mistakenly calling Rudolf Nureyev Russian.

    [1:55:57] Poetry.

    [2:00:01] What Laurence Olivier knew about the value of tenacity.

    [2:01:41] Parting thoughts.

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    #728: Seth Godin — Coaching Tim on Overcoming Resistance, Lessons from Isaac Asimov, Writing Secrets After 8,500+ Daily Blog Posts, The Dangers of Authenticity, Practices for Consistency, and Much More

    #728: Seth Godin — Coaching Tim on Overcoming Resistance, Lessons from Isaac Asimov, Writing Secrets After 8,500+ Daily Blog Posts, The Dangers of Authenticity, Practices for Consistency, and Much More

    Seth Godin is the author of 21 international bestsellers that have changed the way people think about work. Seth’s books include Tribes, Purple Cow, Linchpin, The Dip, and This Is Marketing. Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world, and two of his TED talks are among the most popular of all time. His latest book is The Song of Significance: A New Manifesto for Teams

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    Timestamps:

    [06:14] Writing a provocation rather than a prescription.

    [13:08] Divvying up concepts.

    [16:25] Comprehension over complication.

    [18:58] How Seth fulfills a blog post’s purpose.

    [22:28] Claude AI vs. ChatGPT.

    [23:41] How Seth Godin as a Service (SGaaS) maintains consistency.

    [27:23] Simplification over exaggeration.

    [31:56] Working with Isaac Asimov and getting a Clue.

    [36:53] How Seth moves life’s story forward (even when he loves the current chapter).

    [43:28] Why does Seth write?

    [44:59] Is an ounce of prevention worth a pound of sinecure?

    [45:15] Parting thoughts.

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    #727: In Case You Missed It: February 2024 Recap of "The Tim Ferriss Show"

    #727: In Case You Missed It: February 2024 Recap of "The Tim Ferriss Show"

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    Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is my job to deconstruct world-class performers to tease out the routines, habits, et cetera that you can apply to your own life. 

    This is a special inbetweenisode, which serves as a recap of the episodes from last month. It features a short clip from each conversation in one place so you can easily jump around to get a feel for the episode and guest.

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    Cal Newport — How to Embrace Slow Productivity, Build a Deep Life, Achieve Mastery, and Defend Your Time (#722)

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    Master Negotiator William Ury — Proven Strategies and Amazing Stories from Warren Buffett, Nelson Mandela, Kim Jong Un, Hugo Chávez, and More (#721)

    Life Lessons from Taylor Swift, Conquering Anxiety, Coaching Teens, Career Reinvention, Supposedly Gay Bulls, Your Shadow Side, and More — Soman Chainani (#720)

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    #396: Marcela Ot’alora — How to Become a Psychedelic Therapist

    #396: Marcela Ot’alora — How to Become a Psychedelic Therapist

    "The only way to not be afraid of someone's suffering is if you're not afraid of your own." — Marcela Ot'alora G.

    Marcela Ot'alora G. is a psychotherapist and an installation artist. Her interest and focus on trauma has led her to understand the healing process as an intimate reconnection with one's essence through love, integrity, acceptance, and honoring of the human spirit. In addition to working with trauma and PTSD, she has dedicated her professional life to teaching and research. She uses art as a vehicle for deepening the relationship to self, others, and the natural world.

    Marcela worked as a co-therapist in MAPS' very first government regulated MDMA-assisted psychotherapy study in Madrid, Spain. She served as the principal investigator for MAPS' phase two MDMA-assisted psychotherapy study, and is currently in the MDMDA healthy volunteer study and phase three in Boulder, Colorado.

    She is also a trainer and supervisor for therapists working on MAPS studies for MDMA-assisted psychotherapy.

    You can find additional resources from this episode in the show notes below. They are also separately curated on this page: tim.blog/therapyresources

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    #502: Jordan Peterson on Rules for Life, Psychedelics, The Bible, and Much More

    #502: Jordan Peterson on Rules for Life, Psychedelics, The Bible, and Much More

    Jordan Peterson on Rules for Life, Psychedelics, The Bible, and Much More | Brought to you by Wealthfront automated investing, Helix Sleep premium mattresses, and Athletic Greens all-in-one nutritional supplement. More on all three below.

    Jordan B. Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors, and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general, helped his clinical clients manage depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, anxiety, and schizophrenia, served as an adviser to senior partners of major Canadian law firms, and lectured extensively in North America and Europe. With his students and colleagues at Harvard and the University of Toronto, Dr. Peterson has published more than one hundred scientific papers, transforming the modern understanding of personality, as his book Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief revolutionized the psychology of religion. His book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos was published in 2018 and has sold more than 4 million copies internationally. His latest book is Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life.

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    #520: Michael Pollan — This Is Your Mind on Plants

    #520: Michael Pollan — This Is Your Mind on Plants

    Michael Pollan — This Is Your Mind on Plants | Brought to you by Headspace easy-to-use app with guided meditations, Eight Sleep’s Pod Pro Cover sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating, and Wealthfront automated investing. More on all three below.

    Michael Pollan (@michaelpollan) is the author of eight books, including How to Change Your Mind, Cooked, Food Rules, In Defense of Food, The Omnivore’s Dilemma, and The Botany of Desire, all of which were New York Times bestsellers. A longtime contributor to The New York Times Magazine, Pollan teaches writing at Harvard University and the University of California, Berkeley. In 2010, Time magazine named him one of the one hundred most influential people in the world. His newest book is This Is Your Mind on Plants

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    Smart investing should not feel like a rollercoaster ride. Let the professionals do the work for you. Go to Wealthfront.com/Tim and open a Wealthfront account today, and you’ll get your first $5,000 managed for free, for lifeWealthfront will automate your investments for the long term. Get started today at Wealthfront.com/Tim.

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    #388: Lisa Ling — Exploring Subcultures, Learning to Feel, and Changing Perception

    #388: Lisa Ling — Exploring Subcultures, Learning to Feel, and Changing Perception

    "It requires time and energy to get invested in other people's stories, but I do in my heart of hearts believe that you emerge a better and smarter human as a result of taking that time." — Lisa Ling

    Lisa Ling (@lisaling) is the host and executive producer of the CNN Original Series This Is Life with Lisa Ling. It returns for its sixth season on Sunday, September 29 at 10 p.m. ET. In each episode, Lisa immerses herself in communities across America giving viewers an inside look at some of the most unconventional segments of society. In 2017, the series won a Gracie Award.

    Lisa is also host of the CNN Digital series This Is Sex with Lisa Ling, which explores the taboos around sex in America and This Is Birth with Lisa Ling, which explores how healthcare legislation, income inequality and cultural shifts shape how people have children in America.

    Before coming to CNN, Lisa was a field correspondent for The Oprah Winfrey Show and contributor to ABC News' Nightline and National Geographic's Explorer. She has reported from dozens of countries, covering stories about gang rape in the Congo, bride burning in India, and the Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda, among other issues that are too often ignored.

    Lisa got her start in journalism as a correspondent for Channel One News where she covered the civil war in Afghanistan at 21 years of age. She later went on to become a co-host of ABC Daytime's hit show The View, which won its first daytime Emmy during her time at the show.

    Lisa has also served as a special correspondent for CNN's Planet in Peril series and is a contributing editor for USA Today's USA Weekend magazine. In 2011, her acclaimed documentary journalism series Our America with Lisa Ling began airing on OWN.

    Lisa is the co-author of Mother, Daughter, Sister, Bride: Rituals of Womanhood and Somewhere Inside: One Sister's Captivity in North Korea and the Other's Fight to Bring Her Home, which she penned with her sister Laura. In 2014, President Obama named Lisa to the Commission on White House Fellows.

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    #385: The World's Largest Psychedelic Research Center

    #385: The World's Largest Psychedelic Research Center

    This is something I’ve been working on for ~1.5 years and something diligent scientists have been working toward for 20+ years.

    This episode features a recording of the press conference announcing the launch of the world’s largest psychedelic research center and the U.S.’s first psychedelic research center -- The Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research at Johns Hopkins Medicine. Among other things, they will be investigating the effectiveness of psychedelics as a new therapy for opioid addiction, Alzheimer's disease, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome (formerly known as chronic Lyme disease), anorexia nervosa and alcohol use in people with major depression. The researchers hope to create precision medicine treatments tailored to individual patients’ specific needs.

    I couldn’t be happier, and it wouldn’t have happened without generous support from Steven and Alexandra Cohen (@cohengive), Matt Mullenweg (@photomatt), Blake Mycoskie (@blakemycoskie), and Craig Nerenberg. Many thanks also to Benedict Carey of the New York Times (@bencareynyt) for investigating and reporting on this from multiple perspectives, as he’s done for many years.

    As some of you know, I shifted most of my focus from startup investing to this field in 2015, and it’s incredibly important to me that this watershed announcement helps to catalyze more studies, more ambitious centers, more scientists entering the field, and more philanthropists and sources of funding taking a close look at psychedelic science. To that end, it’s critical that more people realize there is much more reputational upside than reputational risk in supporting this work in 2019 and beyond. To broadcast this as widely as possible, I have one offer and one sincere ask:

    • THE OFFER — If you’re involved with media and would like to learn more about the center or speak with the key scientists involved, please visit this contact page.
    • THE ASK — Please share the New York Times articles (here is one tweet) or the announcement. Whatever you can do to spread the word is most appreciated! The short link tim.blog/nyt will also forward to one of the NYT articles.


    On this press conference, I am joined by Roland Griffiths, Ph.D., who initiated the psilocybin research program at Johns Hopkins almost 20 years ago, leading the first studies investigating the effects of its use by healthy volunteers. His pioneering work led to the consideration of psilocybin as a therapy for serious health conditions. Griffiths recruited and trained the center faculty in psychedelic research as well. 

    Also participating is Matthew Johnson, Ph.D., associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral science, who has expertise in drug addictions and behavioral economic decision-making, and has conducted psychedelic research at Johns Hopkins since 2004 (with well over 100 publications). He has led studies that show psilocybin can treat nicotine addiction. Johnson will lead two new clinical trials and will be associate director of the new center. 

    The conference was moderated by Audrey Huang, Ph.D., a media relations director at Johns Hopkins.

    Additional resources: 

    Johns Hopkins Opens New Center for Psychedelic Research (New York Times) 

    Tim Ferriss, the Man Who Put His Money Behind Psychedelic Medicine (New York Times) 

    Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research (Official website) 

    Johns Hopkins Launches Center For Psychedelic Research (Johns Hopkins Newsroom) 

    Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research Contact Form

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