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Physical and social threats intensify moral judgments: Disgust isn't just about contamination, it also overlaps with moral judgments. Worry over COVID-19 led to stricter moral judgments for various types of violations, including betrayal, deception, and subversion.
Physical and social threats can intensify moral judgments according to Rob Henderson, who recently defended his PhD thesis on this topic. He explains that while disgust is often associated with contamination, it also overlaps with moral judgments, and he wondered if there were other forms of threats that could similarly intensify moral judgments. His research showed that people who were worried about COVID-19 were stricter in their moral judgments for various types of violations, not just those related to contamination. This includes things like betrayal, deception, and subversion. Henderson's thesis adds to the understanding of the link between disgust and morality, and suggests that other types of threats can also fortify moral judgments. This research could have implications for understanding moral development and the role of threats in shaping moral judgments.
People's moral judgments become stricter as they age: As people age, their moral judgments become more stringent, possibly due to increased vulnerability and risk perception, and this effect influences moral judgment differences between men and women.
As people age, their moral judgments become stricter, and this is not solely due to political orientation, income, or education. Instead, it may be linked to increased vulnerability and risk perception. This aging process effect also influences moral judgment differences between men and women, with women showing greater strictness. Evolutionary psychologists suggest that morality is rooted in adaptive rules for human survival, though these rules are not necessarily rigid. Instead, they reflect mental adaptations that evolved in our ancestral environment and involve competing mechanisms designed to give individuals an advantage at the genetic level. The male warrior hypothesis is an example of this, proposing that men and women evolved different psychological mechanisms to deal with within-group and between-group conflict.
Men and Women Show Different Forms of Aggression: Men exhibit more overt hostility within their groups, while women use more indirect aggression. Men suppress hostility towards outsiders, while women are less likely to do so. These patterns hold true for athletes and contribute to group dynamics.
Men and women exhibit different forms of aggression. According to various studies, men tend to display more overt hostility towards each other within their groups, while women show more indirect aggression through means like rumor spreading and ostracism. However, men are also more likely to suppress their hostility towards outsiders and band together for defense or resource acquisition. Women, on the other hand, are less likely to suppress their hostility towards other women when competing. Research on high school and college athletes supports these findings, with male athletes reporting higher levels of overt aggression towards their teammates but lower levels towards opposing teams, while female athletes reported higher levels of indirect aggression towards their teammates and similar levels towards opposing teams. This "male warrior hypothesis" suggests that men's aggression serves both to compete within their groups and to unite against external threats. Understanding these differences in aggression forms can provide valuable insights into interpersonal dynamics and group behavior.
Indirect aggression in women: A hidden danger: Historical roles may influence the directness and overtness of aggression, with women's aggression often more covert and indirect, and men's more direct and forceful.
Indirect aggression, as demonstrated in the story of Helen Valero, can have severe consequences. Helen unknowingly gave a poisonous snack to a child, leading to her being ostracized and hunted by the tribe. This is an example of covert female aggression, where the steps between the action and the outcome make it difficult to directly blame the perpetrator. Contrastingly, men's aggression is often more direct and forceful. The reason for this difference may lie in the historical role of women in societies, with no evidence of women banding together to capture men as husbands. Instead, conflicts among men often revolve around resources, particularly women, leading to more direct and overt aggression. Understanding these differences can provide insights into human behavior and social dynamics.
Biological roots of human cooperation and competition: Women tend to cooperate more and show less hostility, while men display higher in-group preference and denigration of outgroups, leading to coexistence of cooperation and competition in human societies.
The dynamics of human cooperation and competition, particularly between men and women, have significant biological and evolutionary roots. Women, due to their biological value, tend to exhibit less overt hostility and more fear and avoidance of outgroups. In contrast, men display higher levels of in-group preference, xenophobia, and denigration of outgroups. These differences have led to the observation that human cooperation and competition often coexist, with cooperation enabling the deployment of competition at larger scales and more destructive levels. Furthermore, humans' unique ability to cooperate and build complex societies is also what enables us to engage in mass-scale conflict and violence, as seen in historical instances of genocide. It's important to note that these tendencies are not exclusive to humans, as other primates, such as chimpanzees, exhibit much higher levels of aggression compared to humans. Ultimately, the complex interplay between cooperation and competition has shaped human societies and continues to influence our behavior today.
The importance of cooperation for ancient survival: Cooperation was vital for survival in ancient societies, leading to a concern for reputation and the avoidance of negative criticism, as well as a balance between aggression and cooperation, and the potential benefits of having a few psychopaths in a group.
Our ancient ancestors relied heavily on social cooperation for survival. Those who couldn't form alliances or prove their usefulness to the group faced potential death. This need for cooperation led to the development of a concern for reputation and the avoidance of negative criticism, which could have life-threatening consequences. The balance between aggression and cooperation was crucial for survival, as too much aggression could lead to community instability. Additionally, having a few psychopaths in a group could be beneficial for carrying out necessary but unpleasant tasks, but too many could lead to societal instability. Regarding secondary sex characteristics, the aversion of some men to women praising "dad bods" may stem from a desire to validate their own efforts in maintaining their physique and attractiveness to potential mates.
Factors contributing to the dad bod phenomenon: Women's attraction to dad bods stems from respect, internalized homophobia, comfort, and the belief that less formidable men make better fathers
The dad bod phenomenon, or the preference some women have for men with a slightly overweight, "softer" body, can be attributed to a few factors. First, respect and admiration for a man who takes care of himself. Second, internalized homophobia and fear of being perceived as gay. Third, comfort and security in a relationship. Lastly, the idea that a less physically formidable man may be a better father due to his reduced potential for attracting other mates. This theory suggests that women's comfort, which contributes to their arousal, plays a significant role in their attraction to different types of male bodies. Overall, the dad bod phenomenon is a complex issue with various psychological and societal influences.
Women's preferences for male attractiveness can change based on mating goals: Research shows women prioritize different body types for short-term vs long-term relationships, and men's perceptions of attractiveness and social status impact their behaviors in romantic relationships.
While there is some truth to the idea that women may not find the "dad bod" as sexually attractive as a muscular physique, research suggests that women's priorities in terms of attractiveness can change based on their short-term versus long-term mating goals. Additionally, men's perceptions of attractiveness and the importance of admiration and prestige from other men may also play a role in their behavior. Ultimately, while physical attractiveness is important, it is not the only factor in determining a man's success in romantic relationships.
Physical formidability linked to sexual success: Studies show women find formidable men more sexually attractive, particularly for short-term relationships, due to evolutionary signals of strength and competitiveness.
Physical formidability, not sexual attractiveness, is a stronger predictor of a man's sexual success. This was shown in a study where women rated men's attractiveness and their likelihood to win a physical fight, and the researchers found a correlation between formidability and the number of sexual partners men reported having. The study was replicated, and other research suggests that women find muscular men more attractive for short-term flings, even if they don't prioritize other qualities typically considered attractive in men. This phenomenon can be explained by the evolutionary hypothesis that secondary sex characteristics in men, such as muscle mass and deep voices, serve as signals of strength and competitiveness, rather than direct advertisements of attractiveness to women.
Men's formidability signals more important than attractiveness for sexual success: Men's competitive traits, like beards, signal formidability to other men, leading to increased sexual success, despite women not always stating they find these traits attractive.
Masculine traits among men, such as beards, have evolved more as competitive, secondary sex characteristics to signal formidability rather than primary attractions to women. This theory is based on the idea that men judging other men's formidability is a more accurate predictor of their sexual success than their attractiveness. Although women may not state that they find these traits attractive, data suggests that men with these traits are often the most successful. Additionally, status plays a significant role in men's romantic and sexual success, which is often conferred upon them by other men. This evolutionary dynamic may have contributed to the development of various masculine features and traits in humans. However, it's important to consider whether these traits could potentially become detrimental if they evolve too far, as seen in the case of the Irish elk's antlers.
Winning contests or being perceived as high-status can boost a man's attractiveness: Winning contests or being seen as respected and admired by others can make a man more attractive to women, potentially influencing happiness and desirability.
Winning a contest or being perceived as high-status or prestigious by others, including men, can significantly impact a man's attractiveness to women. This effect may be due to the respect and esteem accrued from peers, which can be a stronger predictor of happiness and desirability than personal wealth or socioeconomic status. Historically, women have been attracted to men who possess these qualities, whether it's through sports, art, or other areas of expertise. The respect and admiration of other men can influence women's perceptions of attractiveness, even if they are not directly interested in the contest or area of expertise. This phenomenon is not limited to traditional forms of competition or prestige; modern examples include the popularity of gamers on YouTube or other online communities. The reverse may also be true, but the effect would likely be smaller for women. Ultimately, both men and women are influenced by social status and the perceptions of others when it comes to attraction.
Socioeconomic status affects attractiveness differently for men and women: Women are more sensitive to a man's income or social status, leading to a larger positive effect on his attractiveness. However, this effect is smaller for women, and men tend to prefer high-status friends, while women's friendships do not have the same impact.
There is a significant difference in how socioeconomic status affects the attractiveness of men and women. Research suggests that women are much more sensitive to a man's income or social status than men are to women's. This means that men with higher socioeconomic status have a larger positive effect on their attractiveness to women. However, this effect is much smaller for women. For example, a man with a master's degree may get twice as many matches on Tinder as a man with a bachelor's degree, while a woman with a master's degree only gets a small increase in matches. Additionally, men tend to prefer friends who have high-status qualities, while women's friendships do not have the same effect on their attractiveness to potential mates. The concept of preselection also plays a role, where men who are surrounded by attractive women are seen as high-status and desirable, while women in similar situations may be less attractive to high-status men. However, the findings on this are not consistent across all studies and contexts. Overall, socioeconomic status plays a larger role in the attractiveness of men than women, but the effect is more complex than a simple positive correlation.
Social dynamics and perceived threats influence our behavior towards others: Understanding preselection, the use of attractive women to boost social standing, and the male monkey dance can help navigate complex social situations and build stronger relationships.
Our behavior towards others can be influenced by various factors, including social dynamics and perceived threats. The discussion touched upon the concept of preselection and how it plays a role in social situations, particularly in mixed-sex groups. The use of attractive women to boost one's social standing was highlighted. Additionally, the male monkey dance was introduced as a ritualistic conflict between two males, often occurring when there's uncertainty about who would prevail in a physical contest. The commonality of this behavior across different people and the circumstances that trigger it were also discussed. Ultimately, understanding these social dynamics can help us navigate complex social situations and build stronger relationships.
The desire for a fair fight: a universal human phenomenon: People crave fair fights to assess abilities, signal strength, and maintain honor. This desire is present across cultures and societies, and can be traced back to leadership contests.
The concept of a fair fight is deeply rooted in human psychology, with people wanting to assess each other's fighting abilities in a ritualistic and honorable way, known as the monkey dance. This desire for a fair fight is present across different cultures and societies, and it allows individuals to signal their strength, endurance, and capacity without resorting to cheating or using excessive violence. The monkey dance is a way to judge who is more physically formidable, and if one party breaks the rules, the effectiveness of the contest is lost. This phenomenon may have ancestral ties to leadership contests, with prestige coming from winning in a fair fight and dominance from winning through fear. Ultimately, the choice between prestige and dominance depends on one's short-term and long-term evolutionary goals.
Breaking rules for survival in physical confrontations: Individuals may bend rules during fights to ensure survival, even if it means losing prestige or respect, as the long-term consequence of survival often outweighs these concerns.
During a physical confrontation, individuals may choose to break the rules to establish dominance and ensure their survival. This can be seen in situations where one person is outnumbered or facing an adversary who is significantly larger. While such actions may result in a loss of prestige or respect in certain contexts, the long-term consequence of survival often outweighs these concerns. For instance, in movies like the Jason Bourne series, the protagonist's refusal to escalate the situation until necessary often highlights his nobility and prestige, even when he is forced to use unconventional weapons. Overall, the decision to bend the rules in a fight ultimately depends on the context and the individual's priorities.
Challenging clear-cut good vs. evil roles: Complex stories with moral ambiguity can be more engaging and thought-provoking, allowing for various interpretations and perspectives
Stories, whether in films or television shows, that challenge clear-cut good vs. evil roles can be more engaging and thought-provoking. The example given was from the James Bond movie "Spectre," where size and strength didn't necessarily determine the outcome of a fight. Another example was from "Game of Thrones," where the lines between good and bad were blurred, leading to uncertainty about who to root for. This complexity can make stories more enthralling as it allows for various interpretations and perspectives. Additionally, the reputation of the character performing an act can influence how it is perceived. For instance, a protagonist's distasteful actions might be forgiven due to their previous good deeds, while a villain's moderately unpleasant actions might be met with strong condemnation. Overall, stories that defy traditional roles and offer moral ambiguity can create a more captivating and thought-provoking viewing experience.
Rob K. Henderson: Author and Essayist Working on Several Projects: Rob K. Henderson is an author and essayist, currently writing essays about 'Games People Play' on Substack and a memoir to be published in 2024. He remains dedicated to sharing insights on luxury beliefs despite challenges with his publisher.
Rob K. Henderson is an author and essayist who is currently working on several projects. He is writing a series of essays for his Substack about the classic book "Games People Play" by Eric Berne, exploring common social interactions and their underlying motives. He is also writing a memoir, which will be published in spring 2024. Readers can follow his work on Substack at robkhenderson.substack.com and on Twitter at @robkhenderson. Despite challenges with his publisher, Henderson remains dedicated to sharing his insights on luxury beliefs and other topics.
