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    #58 - How To Navigate The Upcoming Depression

    enMarch 24, 2020
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    • The importance of early action in preventing crisesTaking action before a problem escalates is crucial, even if it may be perceived as an overreaction. It's important to recognize the significance of early prevention efforts.

      Taking action and precautionary measures before a problem becomes big is crucial. In the case of the coronavirus, the concern lies in the lose-lose situation we face. If we don't take action and the virus spreads, significant harm can occur. On the other hand, if we take extensive precautions and successfully contain the virus, people may perceive it as an overreaction. This dilemma highlights the need for a term to describe situations where reducing risk and preventing a problem leads to the perception that the problem was never significant in the first place. It's important to recognize the importance of early action and not undermine the efforts made to prevent a crisis.

    • The Global Crisis: A Multi-dimensional Black Swan EventThe current global crisis caused by the coronavirus is unprecedented, impacting various sectors and posing a significant health risk. Experts predict a prolonged economic downturn and high unemployment rates, emphasizing the urgent need for awareness.

      The current global situation, triggered by the health crisis of the coronavirus, is a multi-dimensional crisis that encompasses supply chain breakdown, labor layoffs, demand shock, and a significant health risk. This is an unprecedented event that few have experienced in their lifetime. The combination of these factors makes it a black swan event, unlike any crisis we have seen before. The impact is far-reaching, affecting industries such as sports, entertainment, education, and more. The severity of the crisis is highlighted by predictions of high unemployment rates and a potentially long-lasting economic downturn. While this outlook may seem doom and gloom, it is rooted in realistic analysis from experts and represents a pressing concern we should all be aware of.

    • Unprecedented Challenges: Navigating the COVID-19 PandemicIn this war against an invisible enemy, staying at home and mass testing are essential measures to combat the virus and protect public health.

      The current situation is unprecedented and presents unique challenges. The COVID-19 pandemic has brought unexpected consequences, with businesses shutting down and millions filing for unemployment. Unlike previous economic downturns, the goal now is not to stimulate work, but to subsidize living and encourage people to stay at home. This situation is like a war, with an invisible enemy that requires patience and staying inside as the main solution. From a health perspective, mass testing is crucial to identify and contain the virus, but unfortunately, the testing efforts so far have been inadequate. The virus itself is tricky as it may not show symptoms immediately and affects different age groups differently, highlighting the need for mass testing and responsible behavior from all individuals.

    • The importance of masks in preventing the spread of the virus and the economic implications of the pandemic.Wearing masks helps prevent the spread of the virus, and it is crucial to prioritize healthcare worker's access to masks. The pandemic has also exposed underlying debt problems in the economy, highlighting the need for bailouts.

      Wearing masks can be both helpful and necessary in preventing the spread of the virus. While there may have been a shortage initially, it is important to prioritize masks for healthcare workers who are at high risk. Companies like Facebook are stepping up by donating masks to hospitals. However, the economy is likely to suffer greatly, potentially leading to a depression rather than just a recession. The virus may be the trigger, but underlying debt problems in the economy are the true cause of the crash. Bailouts for companies facing financial difficulties may seem unfair, but understanding the fundamentals of how the economic machine works can shed light on the need for such measures.

    • The role of credit and debt in the economy and the potential consequences of overreaching.The economy relies on spending and credit, but excessive borrowing can lead to a long-term debt cycle and potential depression. Caution and transitioning to a cash-heavy position are advised.

      The key to the economy is spending, and most of this spending is done through credit. This credit becomes income for the next person, making them credit worthy and allowing them to take loans and spend further. Expansion cycles occur when people take loans, buy houses, invest in businesses, etc. However, these expansion periods can lead to overreaching, resulting in too much debt in the system. To regulate this, the government uses interest rates to reduce borrowing. The video also highlights a long-term debt cycle happening over a 75 to 100-year span, which can result in a depression when on the downside. The speaker believes we are now on the wrong side of this cycle and predicts a multi-year deleveraging or depression ahead. Therefore, they advise being cautious and transitioning to a cash-heavy position.

    • Navigating Economic Uncertainty: Strategic Investing and Surviving in BusinessIn uncertain economic times, avoid trying to time the stock market and instead focus on long-term fundamentals. When starting a business, prioritize survival over aggressive growth and carefully manage finances.

      In times of economic uncertainty, it's important to be cautious and strategic. When it comes to investing in the stock market, trying to time the market or predict short-term fluctuations is often a losing game. It's more valuable to focus on the long-term fundamentals and not get caught up in day-to-day changes. As for starting a business during a recession or depression, it can be a challenging but potentially rewarding endeavor. It's crucial to lower the burn rate and prioritize survival over aggressive growth. Bunkering down, weathering the storm, and carefully managing finances are key strategies for navigating uncertain economic times.

    • Navigating Economic Downturn: Challenges and Strategies for Startups and Venture Capital FirmsDuring economic downturns, startups should prioritize securing additional funds and understanding how venture capital firms are structured to overcome challenges and mitigate the decrease in investments.

      During times of economic downturn or uncertainty, venture capital firms may slow down their investments and become more selective. This can lead to canceled meetings and lower valuations for startups seeking funding. It is important for businesses to have a significant runway of at least three years, although this can be challenging to achieve. Any opportunity to secure additional funds, even if not under ideal terms or from the best investor, should be seriously considered. Understanding how venture capital firms are structured, with commitments from limited partners, is also crucial. As the stock market crashes and bond yields decrease, the allocation of funds to venture capital becomes disproportionate and may result in a decrease in investments.

    • The current economic situation and its impact on startup investing and entrepreneurship.Despite challenges and uncertainties, there will be opportunities for startups in the future. It is important to have enough runway and wait for the market to consolidate before taking advantage of available resources.

      The current economic situation has created challenges and uncertainties for startup investing and entrepreneurship. VC firms are avoiding capital calls to appease their LPs, leading to a slowdown in investment. Starting a business during this time may be tough due to the high level of uncertainty and potential market crash. However, once the crash happens, there will be opportunities for cheaper talent and less competition. Prices are expected to go down across the board. It is important to have 18 to 36 months of runway and reduce burn rate for existing companies. For those considering starting something new, it is advised to weigh down this period and wait for the market to consolidate before taking advantage of the available resources. Being scrappy and resilient is crucial during these times.

    • The Cycle of Power in the Startup SceneFounders should be aware of the current shift in power from investors to founders and be prepared to negotiate and adapt to less favorable investment terms. However, there are also opportunities for innovation and support in challenging times.

      The startup scene goes through cycles of leverage between founders and investors. During bear markets, investors have the upper hand and founders struggle to raise money on their own terms. Conversely, in bull markets, founders have more leverage and can negotiate better deals with investors. This dynamic creates a shift in power and affects the terms and conditions of investments. Currently, we are witnessing a swing of the pendulum where founders are facing challenges in raising funds. It's important for founders to understand this shift and be prepared to negotiate and possibly settle for less favorable terms. However, amidst the challenges, there are also opportunities for creativity and innovation, as people are finding new ways to connect and support each other during these times.

    • The COVID-19 pandemic: a time for reflection and appreciation.The crisis has prompted a reassessment of priorities, highlighting the significance of essential workers and the value of relationships, while also offering an opportunity for personal growth.

      The COVID-19 pandemic has caused people to reassess their priorities and appreciate the things and people they took for granted before. The crisis has shed light on the importance of essential workers such as delivery people, grocery store workers, and healthcare professionals who have been putting their lives on the line to provide for and save others. The pandemic has also given individuals the opportunity to spend quality time with loved ones, realizing the value of these relationships. Furthermore, the situation has forced people to slow down and reflect on their lives and goals, something that was often neglected in the fast-paced world of constant distractions. Although the circumstances are challenging, there is potential for personal growth and positive change during this time of isolation and reflection.

    • Enhancing Mindset and Productivity through a Morning RoutineTaking just 9 minutes in the morning to establish a routine can bring clarity, intentionality, and purpose to our day, ultimately leading to a more fulfilling life.

      Adopting a morning routine can significantly improve our mindset and productivity throughout the day. Just as athletes prepare themselves physically and mentally before a game, we should also prioritize getting our mind and body ready for the challenges of everyday life. It is strange that we often neglect this aspect of our lives and instead rush into the day on autopilot. By dedicating even just 9 minutes to a morning routine, we can cultivate a clear mind, intentionality, and a sense of purpose. So, let's prioritize carving out some time in the morning to set ourselves up for success, because if we can't spare 9 minutes, we may be missing out on truly living.

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    • How Silicon Valley needs to go back to its roots: focusing on technology to lift all sectors — including food, industry and healthcare — to the digital age.
    • Why biology is having its ‘Internet time’.
    • The challenges PhDs face when they become founders to translate their research.
    • How magnetic, resourceful, resilient doers are founders with high potential.
    • His approach to opportunistic investments in deep tech.
    • Using publication research for initial technical due diligence in new domains.
    • The benefits of portfolio network effects.
    • Finally, we discuss the affects of the Covid-19 pandemic on venture, and the silver lining of how such an intense global events might give rise to major scientific advances in a compressed timeframe.


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    S1E27: Guest Mike Selden, CEO of Finless Foods

    S1E27: Guest Mike Selden, CEO of Finless Foods

    Mike Seldon is CEO of Finless Foods, bringing sustainable, delicious seafood to the world without having to farm or harvest live fish. In this episode, Mike talks about how growing up watching Miyazaki films affected his vision for his company, the fascinating science behind creating cell-based tuna, the enthusiastic response the product is already receiving from high end chefs, and more.

    #58 - 1km à pied : la nouvelle façon de se rendre au boulot.

    #58 - 1km à pied : la nouvelle façon de se rendre au boulot.

    Aujourd’hui, plus de 70% Français se rendent encore sur leur lieu de travail en voiture. La raison principale à cela ? Certainement pas un manque de conscience écologique mais bien le manque de choix et surtout la distance : 16km en moyenne ! Pourtant, les entreprises de plus de 50 salariés sont censées, selon la loi, mettre en place un plan de mobilité afin de résoudre ce genre de problème. Mais, faute de temps et de vraie maîtrise du sujet, ce plan est souvent laissé de côté. Ça, c’était avant 1 km à pied


    Laure Wagner, notre pitcheuse est l’un des deux cerveaux qui se cachent derrière 1km à pied. Même si le nom pourrait le laisser penser, il ne s’agit pas de la dernière application de marche, mais de la solution RH 100% en ligne qui permet aux entreprises de plus de 50 salariés de réaliser simplement (un drag & drop de document Excel) leur plan de mobilité, d’analyser toutes les alternatives possibles, de mesurer leurs conséquences pour mettre en place de vraies solutions facilement activables (mise en place de covoiturage, jour de télétravail en plus…). 


    Pour challenger son pitch : Alex Delivet, le fondateur de Collect. 


    La date de la création de 1km à pied : janvier 2020. 

    Le montant qu’ils cherchent à lever : 400 000€

    Le nombre d’employés (pour le moment) : Deux cofondateurs et deux stagiaires  


    Les podcasts qui l’inspirent ? "Génération XX" a clairement été un élément déclencheur pour oser me lancer et sinon, j'écoute religieusement Growth Makers, Koudetat, La galère, 40 nuances de Next.”

    Son gourou ? “Fred Mazzella [le dirigeant de BlaBlaCar]. J'ai tellement bossé avec lui que j'ai l'impression de l'entendre me souffler des conseils plusieurs fois par jour.”

    Sa phrase fétiche ? “On améliore que ce que l'on mesure !”

    La musique qui représente son entreprise ? “1km à pied, ça n'use que les souliers !”


    Pitch Pong, c’est le podcast qui vous propose de découvrir les start-ups de demain avant tout le monde. Pour écouter l’épisode c’est ici pour les utilisateurs d’Apple Podcast, par là pour les utilisateurs de Spotify et juste ici pour ceux qui préfèrent Deezer. Merci à eToro de l’avoir rendu possible.