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    61 - MONEY - We share a bed with them, so why don't we share our finances with them? + the surprising connection between money, sex & food

    en-usNovember 07, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • The Connection Between Money, Emotions, and RelationshipsOur financial beliefs and behaviors are shaped by experiences and narratives from a young age, including those passed down from parents and culture. Prenatal financial stress can also impact our future relationship with money.

      Our beliefs and emotions towards money are shaped by experiences and narratives we encounter from a young age, even before we are born. Intergenerational narratives, or messages passed down from parents and culture, influence our financial behavior and beliefs. Our relationship with money begins in utero as pregnant mothers experience financial stress, which can impact us later in life. This episode of Open House features experts in the field, Dr. Alex Melkoumian and Ellie Austin Williams, who will delve deeper into the connection between money, emotions, and relationships. Together, they will explore how our past experiences and beliefs shape our current financial situation and offer insights into how we can improve our relationship with money.

    • Financial stress in early life shapes attachment to moneyChildhood experiences with caregiver's financial anxiety influence attachment to money, leading to secure or insecure styles, impacting financial decisions and overall well-being

      The relationship between our financial stress and the stress hormone cortisol, which starts in the womb, significantly influences our attachment style towards money. Our early childhood experiences with a primary caregiver's financial anxiety can shape our attachment to money, leading to secure or insecure attachment styles. Our emotions heavily impact our financial decisions, and money can be a significant source of stress and anxiety for many people. As emotional beings, our experiences with our caregivers and our relationship with money are interconnected, shaping our financial behaviors and overall financial well-being.

    • Understanding Emotions in Money Management90% of financial decisions are emotional, acknowledging and addressing emotional component is crucial for financial success and peace of mind.

      Our emotions play a significant role in our relationship with money. While emotions are there to protect us, they can also lead us to avoid dealing with financial matters, causing anxiety and potential long-term pain. Daniel Kahneman's research reveals that 90% of financial decisions are based on emotions, highlighting the importance of understanding and managing our emotional connection to money. Ellie's perspective emphasizes the need to confront our emotional relationship with money and develop an emotional strategy to complement practical financial planning. On the other hand, some people, like me, can easily avoid thinking about money on a daily basis through impulsive spending or ignorance of account balances. However, this avoidance can lead to unexpected financial shocks and stress. Overall, acknowledging and addressing the emotional component of money management is crucial for financial success and peace of mind.

    • Understanding Emotions and MoneyRecognizing emotional connections to money can lead to better financial decisions and avoiding financial crises.

      Our emotions play a significant role in how we handle money. Some people, like the speaker, used to ignore their finances until they faced a crisis. Others, in times of emotional distress, may turn to shopping as a form of retail therapy. The speaker shares her personal experience of using shopping as a coping mechanism during a heartbreak, which led to excessive online shopping. She also highlights the neuroscientific connection between money, food, and sex, all being processed in the emotional part of the brain. Therefore, understanding and addressing our emotional relationship with money can help us make better financial decisions and avoid potential financial crises.

    • The Pursuit of Dopamine Hits and Its Impact on HappinessRecognize the impulse to seek out experiences for dopamine hits, understand that money can only contribute so much to happiness, and strive for balance between emotional well-being and financial stability.

      Our brain's reward system can make us impulsively seek out experiences, including spending money, in pursuit of dopamine hits. This can lead to a belief that more money will make us happier, but research suggests that there is a cap to how much money contributes to financial satisfaction, beyond which more money can actually decrease happiness due to increased stress. The speaker's personal experience of dealing with impulsivity and its impact on relationships and finances aligns with the neurological aspect of this phenomenon. It's important to recognize this pattern and strive for balance between emotional well-being and financial stability.

    • Money and Happiness: The Bell CurveMaking more money can lead to increased financial security but may not guarantee happiness. Financial anxiety and obsession with money can increase as earnings rise. Balance is key, prioritizing both financial security and personal well-being.

      While making more money can lead to increased financial security, it doesn't necessarily result in greater happiness or overall life satisfaction. In fact, research suggests that there is a bell curve to our financial well-being, and both financial anxiety and obsession with money can increase as earnings rise above a certain point. This is due in part to the pressure and responsibility people feel to continually earn more, leading to an all-consuming focus on money. Brad Clones, a pioneer in financial psychology, identified four categories of money beliefs: prudence, avoidance, worship, and status. Those who fall into the worship and status categories are particularly susceptible to the negative effects of money obsession, which can lead to stress, anxiety, and even loss of sleep. It's important to strive for balance in life, prioritizing both financial security and personal well-being. Even high earners can experience financial anxiety, and it's crucial to recognize this and seek support if needed.

    • Money as a Source of Stress and ConflictMoney causes stress due to conflicting values and meanings assigned to it, leading to potential relationship conflicts.

      Money plays a significant role in causing stress, conflicts, and even relationship breakdowns. According to the Financial Stress in America survey, money is the number one stressor in America, and it ties closely with divorce and employment. The root cause is not always about the amount of money itself, but rather the differing meanings and values each person assigns to it. For instance, one person might view money as a source of security, while another sees it as a means for freedom and fun. These conflicting beliefs can lead to disagreements and fights in relationships. As Deborah Kaplan, a researcher, points out, people don't fight about money directly, but rather about the underlying meaning it holds for each individual. Understanding the motivation behind one's relationship with money is crucial for resolving potential conflicts and fostering healthier relationships.

    • Money conversations in relationships: crucial yet often avoidedOpen money conversations early in relationships build trust and understanding, despite societal taboos and cultural differences

      Money conversations in relationships are crucial yet often avoided due to societal taboos. People may have complex emotions driving their financial decisions, including a desire for independence or validation. These conversations should ideally be had early on in relationships to build trust and understanding. The cultural narrative of the money taboo makes discussing money uncomfortable, but the trend towards financial wellness and mindfulness may be changing this. Despite differences in cultural norms, the importance of open money conversations applies universally.

    • Understanding Cultural Narratives of MoneyBeing aware of cultural narratives around money and actively working to understand and communicate effectively can lead to better financial decisions and improved financial well-being.

      Money conversations are deeply influenced by cultural narratives, and these narratives can significantly impact our financial well-being. The speaker, who grew up in the Soviet Union and later moved to the US, emphasized the importance of understanding the language of money, which encompasses practical, emotional, cultural, and spiritual aspects. Cultural beliefs and narratives around money can vary greatly, even within a single country, and these differences can lead to misunderstandings and financial challenges. The speaker also highlighted the potential pitfalls of religious beliefs around money, such as tithing, when taken to an extreme. Ultimately, being aware of these cultural narratives and actively working to understand and communicate effectively about money can help us make better financial decisions and improve our overall financial well-being.

    • Using a third-party reference for money conversationsHonest, scheduled money talks can strengthen relationships and improve financial outcomes by building trust and reducing emotional charge

      Having open and honest conversations about money can be a sensitive topic, but using a third-party reference can help make the conversation less personal and more approachable. By building trust and gradually sharing financial information, individuals can create a safe space for discussing money matters in relationships, friendships, and even with future generations. Regular, scheduled conversations about money and financial goals can help reduce emotional charge and create a stronger foundation for financial well-being. Ultimately, it's important to remember that transparency in money matters should be a two-way street, and starting these conversations early can lead to better financial outcomes for all parties involved.

    • Starting money conversations early and oftenEffective communication around money involves self-awareness, vulnerability, and practical tools like triangulation, moratorium, and self-reflection to build a strong financial foundation.

      Money conversations can be difficult due to fear of rejection and power struggles, but having them early and often with practical tools like triangulation, moratorium, and self-reflection can lead to healthier financial relationships. Money is a taboo topic that is often overlooked, and understanding our emotional drivers and deepest fears and goals around money is crucial for effective communication. Starting conversations gently and compassionately requires self-awareness and a willingness to be vulnerable. By addressing money issues early and with empathy, couples can build a strong foundation for their financial future.

    • Having open conversations about money is crucial for healthy relationshipsPrioritize money conversations with your significant other for financial transparency and a healthy relationship.

      Having open and honest conversations about money, including bank accounts and beliefs, is essential for a healthy and long-lasting relationship. Money dates provide an opportunity to have these conversations in a safe and non-judgmental environment. Unfortunately, many people are not having these conversations early enough in their relationships, leading to emotional stress and potential relationship breakdowns. It's important to remember that sharing a bed with someone should also mean sharing financial transparency. I encourage everyone to prioritize having these conversations with their significant other, and I'll be sure to provide links to Dr. Alex and Ellie's practices and social media in the show notes for those interested in learning more. Thank you to Dr. Alex, Ellie, and Louise for sharing their insights on this important topic. I look forward to our next conversation. Until then, take care and have a great day!

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