#667: Dr. Gül Dölen on Rethinking Psychedelics, New Applications (Autism, Stroke, and Allergies), The Neurobiology of Beginner’s Mind, Octopuses on MDMA, and The Master Key of Metaplasticity

Matt Pottinger is a distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution and chairman of the China Program at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Matt served as U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor from 2019 to 2021. Before his White House service, Matt spent the late 1990s and early 2000s in China as a reporter for Reuters and The Wall Street Journal. He then fought in Iraq and Afghanistan as a U.S. Marine during three combat deployments between 2007 and 2010. Matt’s new book is The Boiling Moat: Urgent Steps to Defend Taiwan.

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Timestamps:

[05:55] Bao Tong’s calligraphy.

[08:20] Matt’s decision to study East Asian languages.

[10:13] Studying with Perry Link and the challenges of learning Chinese.

[12:19] Tips for learning Chinese and other languages.

[17:17] How TikTok has been weaponized by the Chinese Communist Party.

[20:58] The origins of TikTok and its obfuscatory ownership structure.

[26:30] How sowing chaos in the West serves the CCP’s aims.

[31:37] “Politics stops at the water’s edge.”

[33:11] How should the US rein in TikTok’s influence over its population?

[40:23] The significance of Taiwan geographically, ideologically, and economically.

[49:59] The semiconductor industry in Taiwan and its global importance.

[52:07] Deterring China from attacking or coercing Taiwan.

[58:51] Cultivating social depth in Taiwan.

[1:01:09] Guessing at Xi Jinping’s timeline.

[1:05:33] Demonstrating the will to match the capacity of following through.

[1:07:47] Matt’s top priorities for stemming Chinese ambitions.

[1:10:15] Architects of chaos.

[1:14:21] Staying alert against informational warfare and united front activity.

[1:21:00] Countering China’s influence on its Western-based citizens.

[1:25:05] Checkers vs. Go.

[1:26:56] How can the US reassert its position as a beacon of democracy?

[1:33:05] What prompted Matt to join the Marine Corps at age 32?

[1:38:50] Getting in shape for the occasion.

[1:40:45] Leadership lessons learned.

[1:46:59] The Boiling Moat, the importance of public service, and parting thoughts.

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Craig Foster is an Oscar- and BAFTA-winning filmmaker, naturalist, author, and ocean explorer. He is the co-founder of the Sea Change Project, an NGO dedicated to the long-term conservation and regeneration of the Great African Seaforest. His film My Octopus Teacher has led to making the Great African Seaforest a global icon. His new book is Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World. 

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Timestamps:

[08:39] A morning ray.

[11:01] Connecting with the sea is a family tradition.

[13:24] Making The Great Dance.

[15:28] Unnatural powers granted by natural attunement.

[22:40] Observing the secret lives of animals.

[26:44] What makes Kalahari trackers so impressive?

[29:37] Connecting with nature in the big city.

[32:43] Breath holding and cold exposure.

[37:25] Land lessons via underwater tracking.

[42:55] Connecting with a Cape clawless otter.

[46:20] Interspecies alliances.

[49:39] What compelled Craig to write Amphibious Soul?

[52:58] Why pristine nature comforts and inspires us.

[1:00:03] Is ancestral memory real?

[1:04:16] Nature as a mirror.

[1:07:48] The pros and cons of discovering new species.

[1:10:03] Song catching.

[1:16:30] The meaning of “home.”

[1:19:03] Parenting lessons.

[1:23:41] The psychic cost of sudden fame.

[1:31:18] For whom was Amphibious Soul written?

[1:33:58] Sea Change Project.

[1:35:53] The short-sightedness of current climate policy.

[1:41:52] Changing entrenched minds.

[1:52:37] A camera-stealing octopus.

[1:55:25] Hope for a shift in human perspective.

[1:58:21] Parting thoughts.

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This week is officially the podcast’s 10-year anniversary, and there is no better way to commemorate such a wild milestone than with Kevin Rose and a little tequila. As many listeners know, Kevin was my very first guest for episode 1, way back in April 2014. Timestamps for this episode are available below.

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[07:20] First live Random Show?

[07:50] Reasons to celebrate.

[08:30] How long can this go on?

[10:15] Mmm…Mmm.

[11:53] Inflection points.

[13:00] Interesting over impulse.

[14:46] Bitcoin ETFs.

[17:22] PROOF news.

[18:41] What’s Kevin’s next project?

[21:15] Don’t DIY your TMS.

[22:57] The SAINT protocol and accelerated TMS.

[23:42] Kevin wonders how magnets work.

[24:27] How accelerated TMS has helped me.

[28:02] Consumer access to accelerated TMS.

[31:50] How TMS feels, and other possible uses.

[32:49] Potential downsides.

[35:10] How to find out more about accelerated TMS.

[38:18] How to appear human in social situations.

[45:20] Jinjer and Sohn.

[46:24] Android and Gemini.

[48:41] Content production and future fame.

[49:58] Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson.

[52:02] Kevin’s deflated balls.

[55:49] My single life.

[59:39] Extending experiential lifespan.

[1:06:12] This is (Henry Shukman’s) The Way.

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Dr. Martha Beck has been called “the best-known life coach in America” by NPR and USA Today. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science and has published nine non-fiction books, one novel, and more than 200 magazine articles. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller.

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Past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, Margaret Atwood, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Dr. Gabor Maté, Anne Lamott, Sarah Silverman, Dr. Andrew Huberman, and many more.

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Dr. David Spiegel is Willson Professor and Associate Chair of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences, Director of the Center on Stress and Health, and Medical Director of the Center for Integrative Medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine, where he has been a member of the academic faculty since 1975. He is the founder of Reveri, the world's first interactive self-hypnosis app.

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Timestamps:

[07:00] How Herbert Spiegel was exposed to hypnosis.

[10:14] Using hypnosis to cure non-epileptic seizures.

[11:53] What is a forensic psychiatrist?

[14:43] How hypnosis works.

[17:54] Hypnosis and the flow state.

[21:03] How hypnosis differs from meditation.

[22:38] Determining one’s susceptibility to hypnosis.

[27:21] I take the eye-roll test.

[29:33] Thoughts on EMDR.

[36:29] Therapeutic psychedelics and ego dissolution.

[41:05] Potential adverse effects of hypnosis?

[42:34] Accelerated TMS improves response to hypnosis.

[44:25] Hypnosis as a tool for stress and pain relief.

[48:56] David treats my back pain with hypnosis.

[57:09] Replicating this effect with self-hypnosis.

[57:57] Understanding the science of pain relief.

[1:03:18] Filtering the hurt from the pain.

[1:06:37] For us, not against us.

[1:09:12] Hypnosis vs. other addiction interventions.

[1:11:41] A mesmerizing tale of hypnotic history.

[1:16:10] Most surprising patient outcomes.

[1:24:53] Finding connection to treat the agitated.

[1:28:40] Who is Reveri designed for?

[1:31:15] Hypnosis as a first rather than last resort.

[1:35:02] Further resources and final thoughts.

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Reed Hastings became executive chairman of Netflix in 2023, after 25 years as CEO. He co-founded Netflix in 1997. Reed is also a majority owner of Powder Mountain. He is currently on the board of several educational organizations including KIPP and Pahara.

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Timestamps:

[06:34] Alfred Lee Loomis and Tuxedo Park.

[07:53] Risk tolerance: nature or nurture?

[10:56] Cultivating culture that “eats strategy for lunch.”

[15:41] The logic behind generous severance.

[17:02] Adapting to Pure chaos.

[18:44] Reference checking potential hires.

[20:29] Context vs. control.

[22:35] Radical candor.

[24:15] Guardrails for maintaining work/life balance.

[27:04] Farming for dissent.

[28:39] Believing in the green crystals.

[30:54] High-performance team, not family.

[31:59] The keeper test.

[32:49] Fire and replace, or replace and fire?

[33:59] Beyond Entrepreneurship and other recommended reading/viewing.

[37:46] A favorite failure.

[40:32] Outstanding leaders.

[41:10] Reed’s two “religions.”

[42:19] Powder Mountain.

[44:44] How Powder Mountain differs from Reed’s other projects.

[46:24] Powder Mountain’s biggest challenges ahead.

[47:02] Could Reed ever really retire?

[47:19] Best investments of time, energy, or money.

[48:49] How can we improve education in the US?

[52:48] What class would Reed teach?

[53:59] Juggling projects without losing focus.

[55:04] Philanthropy: Why Africa?

[55:32] Being “big-hearted champions who pick up the trash.”

[56:28] Reed’s billboard.

[58:01] Parting thoughts.

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Scott Glenn’s acting career spans nearly 60 years. His impressive film resume includes performances in Apocalypse Now, Urban Cowboy, The Right Stuff, Silverado, The Hunt for Red October, The Silence of the Lambs, Backdraft, The Virgin Suicides, and The Bourne Ultimatum. This year, Scott will return to HBO to join season 3 of The White Lotus.

Timestamps for this episode are available below. Links to everything discussed: https://tim.blog/2024/03/27/scott-glenn/

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Timestamps:

[07:10] Idaho vs. Los Angeles.

[13:26] Apocalypse Now, self-confidence soon after.

[17:26] Burt Lancaster’s movie star lessons.

[23:06] The birth and death of Wes Hightower.

[32:22] Catching the attention of James Bridges.

[35:42] Scarlet fever.

[37:29] From Marine to police reporter.

[42:12] Berghof Studios and parental advice.

[50:44] Converting to Judaism.

[53:36] Lao Tzu: the ultimate mystic?

[58:16] Letting go with Killer Joe.

[1:02:53] “Crazy Whitefella Thinking.”

[1:08:31] Getting out of the way and Erwan Le Corre.

[1:11:51] Lessons from the “morally phenomenal” Marlon Brando.

[1:16:26] How Scott’s childhood bout with scarlet fever informed his life’s course.

[1:19:05] Daily routines and exercises of an in-shape 85-year-old.

[1:35:12] Securing a serendipitous skill set.

[1:42:13] Thailand talk.

[1:46:18] Increasing surface luck.

[1:47:04] How Scott met and fell in love with his wife.

[1:53:04] “Just dance.”

[1:53:46] Mistakenly calling Rudolf Nureyev Russian.

[1:55:57] Poetry.

[2:00:01] What Laurence Olivier knew about the value of tenacity.

[2:01:41] Parting thoughts.

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Seth Godin is the author of 21 international bestsellers that have changed the way people think about work. Seth’s books include Tribes, Purple Cow, Linchpin, The Dip, and This Is Marketing. Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world, and two of his TED talks are among the most popular of all time. His latest book is The Song of Significance: A New Manifesto for Teams. 

Timestamps for this episode are available below.

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Timestamps:

[06:14] Writing a provocation rather than a prescription.

[13:08] Divvying up concepts.

[16:25] Comprehension over complication.

[18:58] How Seth fulfills a blog post’s purpose.

[22:28] Claude AI vs. ChatGPT.

[23:41] How Seth Godin as a Service (SGaaS) maintains consistency.

[27:23] Simplification over exaggeration.

[31:56] Working with Isaac Asimov and getting a Clue.

[36:53] How Seth moves life’s story forward (even when he loves the current chapter).

[43:28] Why does Seth write?

[44:59] Is an ounce of prevention worth a pound of sinecure?

[45:15] Parting thoughts.

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Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is my job to deconstruct world-class performers to tease out the routines, habits, et cetera that you can apply to your own life. 

This is a special inbetweenisode, which serves as a recap of the episodes from last month. It features a short clip from each conversation in one place so you can easily jump around to get a feel for the episode and guest.

Based on your feedback, this format has been tweaked and improved since the first recap episode. For instance, listeners suggested that the bios for each guest can slow the momentum, so we moved all the bios to the end. 

See it as a teaser. Something to whet your appetite. If you like what you hear, you can of course find the full episodes at tim.blog/podcast. 

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Timestamps:

Cal Newport: 00:03:17

Claire Hughes Johnson: 00:07:56

William Ury: 00:15:52

Soman Chainani: 00:23:38

Full episode titles:

Cal Newport — How to Embrace Slow Productivity, Build a Deep Life, Achieve Mastery, and Defend Your Time (#722)

Claire Hughes Johnson, Building Stripe from 160 to 6,000+ Employees — How to Take Radical Ownership of Your Life and Career (#724)

Master Negotiator William Ury — Proven Strategies and Amazing Stories from Warren Buffett, Nelson Mandela, Kim Jong Un, Hugo Chávez, and More (#721)

Life Lessons from Taylor Swift, Conquering Anxiety, Coaching Teens, Career Reinvention, Supposedly Gay Bulls, Your Shadow Side, and More — Soman Chainani (#720)

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Esther Perel — The Relationship Episode: Sex, Love, Polyamory, Marriage, and More (Repost) | Brought to you by ButcherBox and Laird Superfood.

Psychotherapist and New York Times bestselling author Esther Perel (@EstherPerelOfficial) is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she helms a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Esther is an acclaimed TED speaker and the host of the hit podcasts Where Should We Begin? and How’s Work?.

In this episode, Esther and I explore:

• How to find (and convince) mentors who can change your life.
• What she’s learned from Holocaust survivors.
• Polyamory and close cousins.
• Is there such a thing as too much honesty in relationships?
• Can we want what we already have?
• Why do happy people cheat?
• And much, much more.

This episode originally aired in 2017. You can find the show notes here: https://tim.blog/2017/05/21/esther-perel/

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Andrew is host of the Huberman Lab podcast, which he launched in January of this year. The show aims to help viewers and listeners improve their health with science and science-based tools. New episodes air every Monday on YouTube and all podcast platforms. 

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Ann Miura-Ko — The Path from Shyness to World-Class Debater and Investor | Brought to you by 80,000 Hours free career advice for high impact and doing good in the world, Athletic Greens all-in-one nutritional supplement, and GiveWell.org charity research and effective giving.

“The main difference was that I was willing to outwork and outdo every competitor who walked in through that door.” — Ann Miura-Ko

Ann Miura-Ko (@annimaniac) has been called “the most powerful woman in startups” by Forbes and is a lecturer in entrepreneurship at Stanford. The child of a rocket scientist at NASA, Ann is a Palo Alto native and has been steeped in technology startups from when she was a teenager. Prior to co-founding Floodgate, she worked at Charles River Ventures and McKinsey and Company. Some of Ann’s investments include Lyft, Ayasdi, Xamarin, Refinery29, JoyRun, TaskRabbit, and Modcloth.

Due to the success of her investments, she was on the 2017 Midas List of top 100 venture capitalists. Ann is known for her debate skills (she placed first in the National Tournament of Champions and second in the State of California in high school) and was part of a five-person team at Yale that competed in the Robocup Competition in Paris, France. She has a BSEE from Yale and a PhD from Stanford in math modeling of computer security. She lives with her husband, three kids, and one spoiled dog. Her interests are piano, robots, and gastronomy.

Please enjoy!

This episode originally aired in 2018. You can find the show notes here: https://tim.blog/2018/08/02/ann-miura-ko/

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Boyd Varty (@boydvarty) is the author of two books, The Lion Tracker's Guide to Life and his memoir, Cathedral of the Wild. He has been featured in The New York Times, on NBC, and in other media and has taught his philosophy of “tracking your life” to individuals and companies around the world.

Boyd is a wildlife and literacy activist who has spent the last ten years refining the art of using wilderness as a place for deep introspection and personal transformation. He grew up in South Africa on Londolozi Game Reserve, a former hunting ground that was transformed into a nature preserve by Boyd’s father and uncle—both visionaries of the restoration movement. Under his family’s stewardship, the Reserve became renowned not only as a sanctuary for animals but as a place where once-ravaged land was able to flourish again and where the human spirit could be restored. When Nelson Mandela was released after 27 years of imprisonment, he went to Londolozi to recover.

Boyd has a degree in psychology from the University of South Africa. He is a TED speaker and the host of the Track Your Life podcast.

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Setting the scene. [05:44]

How the Londolozi Game Reserve came to be, and what happened during Boyd’s childhood that instilled him with a “get on with it” attitude. [08:02]

Why did Boyd’s father and uncle insist on keeping the property that would become the Londolozi Game Reserve when, at the time, it was considered useless, overgrazed wasteland? [10:18]

Boyd shares what it was like growing up as a regular passenger/survivor of The White Knuckle Charter Company. [12:25]

How a man named Ken Tinley and the native Shangaan trackers helped a trio of teenagers transform their expanse of scrub-encroached land into a thriving safari business. [21:03]

On the ancient lineage of the Shangaan trackers, and how the local wildlife came to trust the human caretakers of Londolozi. [27:05]

Renias Mhlongo is supreme among world-class trackers — and sometimes the importance of the work outweighs the will of his clients. [32:21]

Which animals are hardest to track at Londolozi — even if you happen to be Richard Siwela? [37:53]

Because nature can be unpredictable, how do people protect themselves in Londolozi? [41:03]

“I don’t know where we’re going, but I know exactly how to get there.” —Renias Mhlongo [42:56]

How the tracking process has changed for Boyd over the years — from confident child to young adult traumatized by a home invasion and crocodile attack to competent grown-up thanks to people like Dr. Martha Beck and Solly Mhlongo. [45:00]

What is Ubuntu? [1:02:50]

Boyd talks about that time he lived 40 days and 40 nights up a tree — the questions he was trying to answer for himself by doing so, the primal fear he experienced while waiting out a storm, the pros and cons of extreme solitude, and if he’d do it again. [1:05:15]

Stories about bees, the birds who help humans rob them, and the power of the hive algorithm. [1:17:45]

The dos and don’ts of interacting with lions in the wild. [1:29:42]

On the eerie conversation of death, modern confirmation of ancient myths, and the inexplicable movements of beasts and men. [1:34:16]

How did Boyd’s own path toward healing after trauma differ from the way his mother and sister recovered from a trauma they experienced? [1:39:57]

What is ceremony work, and how can it help someone deal with trauma? [1:43:32]

What Boyd means when he says “an authentic life infused with meaning is a kind of activism.” [1:46:40]

How Boyd and I have both been affected by the Work of Byron Katie. [1:52:03]

Boyd’s first medicine encounter in an Arizona sweat lodge, and what he took away from the experience. [1:56:31]

Feelings. Nothing more than feelings. [2:02:49]

Kudus and nightjars and leopards in the fire (oh, my)! What a close encounter with a beautiful predator taught Boyd about Ubuntu. [2:04:14]

Examining the therapeutic value of spending time with animals. [2:13:05]

Laurens van der Post poetically described the sound of a lion’s roar. And, in a packed presentation hall at a major Silicon Valley company, Boyd did not. [2:17:57]

An invitation to visit Londolozi and other parting thoughts. [2:22:10]

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Dr. Christopher M. Palmer (@chrispalmermd) is a Harvard psychiatrist and researcher working at the interface of metabolism and mental health.

Dr. Palmer is the director of the Department of Postgraduate and Continuing Education at McLean Hospital and an assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. For over 25 years, he has held administrative, educational, research, and clinical roles in psychiatry at Harvard. He has been pioneering the use of the medical ketogenic diet in the treatment of psychiatric disorders—conducting research in this area, treating patients, writing, and speaking around the world on this topic.

He has developed the first comprehensive theory of what causes mental illness, integrating existing theories and research into one unifying theory—the brain energy theory of mental illness. You can learn more in his new book Brain Energy: A Revolutionary Breakthrough in Understanding Mental Health—and Improving Treatment for Anxiety, Depression, OCD, PTSD, and More.

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[07:14] How a woman overcame her 53-year streak of chronic paranoid schizophrenia.

[11:16] The backstory of Brain Energy‘s dedication.

[16:31] Chris’ thoughts on DSM-5 diagnostic categories.

[21:51] Chris’ first exposure to the ketogenic diet.

[28:35] Metabolic psychiatry.

[30:33] How ketosis affects the human body (e.g., sleep, mood, weight).

[39:35] Examining the mood elevation of ketosis on a bio-cellular level.

[44:24] When ketosis can be dangerous.

[46:44] How mitochondrial dysfunction can trigger a host of ailments.

[58:07] Dietary methods for sustaining ketosis over the long term.

[1:04:54] Common ketosis mistakes.

[1:07:53] Psychiatric medications, metabolism, and controversy.

[1:15:29] Indications that a medication impairs more than improves a patient’s condition.

[1:18:06] Resources to share with doctors open to conversation about these issues.

[1:20:41] Why quitting psychiatric medication cold turkey is a bad idea.

[1:23:20] Thoughts on the efficacy of exogenous ketones.

[1:30:32] Ketogenic diet as treatment for schizophrenia.

[1:38:34] Why you need to take radical ownership of your own health advocacy.

[1:40:33] Physical exercise for optimizing mitochondrial health.

[1:44:59] A cautionary note for people using medication for off-label results.

[1:48:49] Parting thoughts.

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