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    676: Rob's Real Talk: What Running Short-Term Rentals at Scale REALLY Looks Like

    enOctober 18, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • Rob's property management challengesLearning from mistakes and creating effective systems can help mitigate future issues in short-term rental management.

      Even experienced real estate investors like Rob face numerous challenges in short-term rental management, and learning from these experiences can help create effective systems and processes to mitigate future issues. Rob and Dave discuss Rob's recent experiences with property management, including the infamous fridge debacle that occurred six times in one week. Despite the challenges, Rob emphasizes the importance of self-management and learning from mistakes to better understand the needs of property managers. The episode also includes a quick tip on creating systems to avoid repeating mistakes and an introduction to Rent A Retirement, a platform offering no-money-down investment opportunities in turnkey rental properties.

    • Managing Short-Term Rentals: Challenges and Lessons LearnedEffective self-management and a solid team or processes are crucial for successful real estate investing, whether long-term or short-term. Unexpected situations require diligence, preparation, and adaptability to minimize potential issues and maximize returns.

      Real estate investing, whether it's in notes or commercial properties, comes with its unique challenges, especially when it comes to self-management. Dave Van Horn, co-founder of PPR Capital Management, has written the book on note investing but also invests in commercial real estate. With over half a billion dollars in assets under management since 2007, PPR provides individuals with a steady source of passive income without missing a payment. Meanwhile, 1031 Pros can help save significant taxes when selling properties through 1031 exchanges. During the discussion, the importance of self-management in short term rentals was emphasized, with the speaker sharing their experience of scaling from one unit to 58. However, they also acknowledged the potential challenges that come with it. In the spirit of transparency, they shared ten short-term rental mishaps they encountered last week, including guests locking themselves out, maintenance issues, and unexpected damages. These stories serve as a reminder that real estate investing, whether long-term or short-term, requires diligence, preparation, and the ability to adapt to unexpected situations. It's essential to have a solid team or processes in place to minimize potential issues and maximize returns. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting, these lessons can provide valuable insights and help you navigate the world of real estate investing.

    • Ensure all entry points are accounted for and accessiblePrepare for unexpected situations by having backup plans in place, consider hiring a professional property management company or reliable handyman.

      While technology can greatly enhance the self-check-in process for short-term rental property owners, it's important to consider potential vulnerabilities and unexpected situations. The use of electronic keypads and lockboxes can make the process more convenient, but physical deadbolts can still pose a problem if guests forget to unlock them. In this case, a guest was unable to enter the property despite the code working, leading to a situation where the host had to call a locksmith. The lesson learned is to ensure that all possible entry points are accounted for and easily accessible, and to be prepared for unexpected situations by having backup plans in place. While it may require additional costs, having a professional property management company or a reliable handyman can save time and stress in such situations.

    • Unexpected situations in property managementBeing proactive, having contingency plans, and understanding unique property needs are crucial in property management to avoid significant losses and frustrations.

      Being prepared for unexpected situations is crucial in property management. The speaker shared an experience where a guest failed to show up for a showing, leading to the guests breaking into the house. This incident resulted in a significant loss and frustration for the speaker. He learned the importance of having backups and being prepared for every situation, even if it's not a common occurrence. Another incident involved a water heater issue in a luxury property, which resulted in a $3,000 setback. The speaker discovered that the water heater was from a niche brand that few plumbers serviced, highlighting the importance of researching and understanding the specific needs of high-end properties. Overall, these incidents emphasized the importance of being proactive, having contingency plans, and being knowledgeable about the unique requirements of different properties.

    • Turning a negative situation into a positive one through excellent customer serviceBeing a good host involves accommodating guests' needs, even during unexpected issues. Consider the time and cost implications of repairs, refunds, and replacements when dealing with appliance issues in short term rentals.

      Providing excellent customer service can turn a potentially negative situation into a positive one. In the discussed scenario, a water heater issue left guests without hot water during their stay. The host went above and beyond by offering them a refund for the days without hot water, resulting in the guests expressing their appreciation for the host's actions. This situation highlights the importance of being a good host and accommodating guests' needs, even when faced with unexpected issues. Another key takeaway is the importance of considering the time it takes for repairs or replacements when dealing with appliance issues, especially in the short term rental market. Home warranties, while helpful, may not provide quick solutions, and the cost of refunds can often exceed the cost of repairs or replacements. In some cases, it may be more financially responsible to replace an appliance outright, such as with water heaters, which typically have a relatively short lifespan. Ultimately, the situation underscores the importance of balancing the needs of guests and investors while maintaining a focus on providing a positive rental experience. In the case of a water heater issue, it may be worth considering proactive replacement to avoid potential refunds and negative guest experiences.

    • Managing Costs and Guest Satisfaction in Vacation RentalsMinimize booking cancellation refunds, educate guests on AC usage, invest in preventative maintenance, and maintain clear communication to enhance guest satisfaction and minimize costs.

      Effective management in the vacation rental business involves careful consideration of various factors to minimize costs and maximize guest satisfaction. Refunds on booking cancellations can significantly impact revenue, especially on high-priced luxury properties. Additionally, misconceptions about air conditioning systems can lead to costly repairs. It's essential to educate guests on proper thermostat usage to prevent unnecessary energy consumption and damage to the AC unit. Proactive maintenance and investment in smart thermostats can help prevent costly repairs and ensure guest comfort. Lastly, having clear communication channels and automations in place can help address guest concerns and prevent potential issues. Overall, successful vacation rental management requires a balance of cost-effective strategies and guest-focused services.

    • Effective Communication is Key to a Successful Airbnb StayClear communication between hosts and guests is crucial for a smooth and enjoyable stay. Double-check information, clarify confusion, and be understanding when mistakes happen to maintain a positive guest experience.

      Effective communication between hosts and guests is crucial to ensure a smooth and enjoyable stay. The use of automations and digital guides can help streamline the check-in process, but human error and misunderstandings can still occur. It's essential to double-check information and clarify any potential confusion to prevent miscommunications and frustration. Additionally, being understanding and empathetic when mistakes happen can help maintain a positive guest experience. As the speaker shared, even the best hosts can make mistakes, and it's essential to learn from them and improve the overall guest experience. Ultimately, clear and effective communication is key to ensuring a successful Airbnb stay for both hosts and guests.

    • Check all areas of the property, even when not in useRegularly inspect all areas of the property to prevent unexpected issues and ensure guest safety

      Even when spaces are not in use, they should be checked regularly to prevent unexpected issues. A host shared an experience where a guest tried to use a cast iron stove in August, only to find two dead Blue Jays inside. The birds had built a nest in the flu that led to the stove and unfortunately, the nest fell through, trapping the birds. Although this was an unusual occurrence, the host learned the importance of checking all areas of the property, no matter how infrequently they are used. This incident led to the addition of checking for dead Blue Jays to their cleaning routine, as well as other preventative measures like manual lockboxes and nest thermostats. The host emphasized that such incidents are common in property management and the key is to learn from them and implement systems to prevent recurrence.

    • Handling guest complaints and unexpected issuesDealing with unexpected guest complaints and issues is a normal part of short-term rental business. Stay calm, professional, and make things right whenever possible. Trust your team and give them the benefit of the doubt.

      Running a short-term rental business involves dealing with unexpected issues and guest complaints, which can be frustrating but are a normal part of the business. In the speaker's experience, a guest claimed that the cabin was left dirty upon arrival, leading the speaker to assume the cleaner was at fault. However, after further investigation, it was discovered that the guest had lied about the cleanliness of the cabin. These types of situations can be disheartening, but it's essential to remain calm and professional, and to always strive to make things right for the guest whenever possible. Additionally, it's important to trust the people you hire and give them the benefit of the doubt, as they may not always be at fault. Overall, the speaker learned that setbacks are inevitable in short-term rental investing, but the rewards can be significant, and every experience, good or bad, is a learning opportunity.

    • Handling difficult guests and unexpected challengesShort-term rental hosts must weigh time, resources, and financial impact when dealing with guest complaints and unexpected issues. Prioritize effectively to minimize disruptions and maintain a positive guest experience.

      Running a short-term rental business involves dealing with difficult guests who may try to deceive you to get a refund. In this particular instance, a guest lied about finding a cleaning towel in the bathtub and accused the cleaners of stealing it. The incident caused a significant disruption, but the hosts decided to let it go and refund the guest to avoid further complications. This experience served as a reminder that such incidents are a part of doing business and that it's essential to weigh the time and resources required to address the issue against the financial impact. Additionally, the seclusion and somewhat creepy factor of the property might deter some guests, leading them to find reasons to leave. Overall, the hosts learned to be prepared for unexpected challenges and to prioritize their time and energy accordingly.

    • Maintain a long-term perspective with rental propertiesFocus on long-term financial picture, choose battles wisely, and prioritize a lender with a streamlined application process.

      When dealing with rental properties, it's essential to maintain a long-term perspective and not get too worked up over short-term issues. This can help reduce stress and improve overall peace of mind. For some investors, outsourcing property management can be a worthwhile investment for this reason. However, for others, particularly those with fewer properties or tighter budgets, it may be necessary to handle management tasks themselves and fight for every dollar. Ultimately, the key is to choose battles wisely and focus on the long-term financial picture rather than getting bogged down in day-to-day issues. As one investor noted, "the show must go on regardless of emotion." Additionally, it's important to remember that different lenders have varying requirements for securing a mortgage, so it can pay to shop around for a lender that prioritizes a streamlined application process.

    • Effective communication and preparation are key to successClear communication and having a backup plan can save time and resources in business deals, while investing in personal growth through therapy can lead to prioritizing what truly matters

      Effective communication and preparation are crucial in achieving desired outcomes, especially when dealing with external vendors or suppliers. The Airbnb incident shared in the discussion highlights the frustration and time-consuming experience of dealing with multiple incorrect fridge deliveries, which could have been avoided with clearer communication and having a backup plan. Similarly, in real estate investing, having a solid team and proper planning can help mitigate potential issues and save time and resources. On a different note, investing in therapy can lead to personal growth and help individuals prioritize their time and energy towards what truly matters in life. Whether it's managing a property or seeking personal development, being proactive and well-prepared can lead to significant benefits.

    • Unexpected appliance issuesAccept the unexpected and move forward, sometimes it's more cost-effective to replace an appliance than to fix it.

      Despite our best efforts to prevent issues with appliances, sometimes things just don't go as planned. The speakers in the discussion shared their experiences of dealing with unexpected problems with appliances, despite taking the highest probability steps to prevent them. They acknowledged that it's important to accept the bad luck and move on, rather than driving oneself crazy trying to avoid every possible issue. In one instance, a dishwasher that had been working fine for years suddenly stopped draining properly. The speaker had the hose checked and replaced, but the issue persisted. The tech diagnosed the problem as a motherboard issue, which would cost more to fix than to replace the appliance. This experience served as a reminder that sometimes, it's more cost-effective to replace an appliance rather than trying to fix it. Overall, the discussion emphasized the importance of accepting the unexpected and moving forward, rather than getting bogged down in frustration or regret.

    • Lessons learned from frustrating appliance experiencesEffective communication, proactivity, and self-reliance are crucial when dealing with home repairs and maintenance to avoid frustrating experiences with big box stores and their delivery systems.

      Relying on big box stores and their delivery systems for appliance purchases and repairs can be a frustrating experience. The speaker learned this lesson the hard way when he bought a dishwasher for a short-term rental and encountered numerous issues with delivery and installation. Despite having a home warranty that could have covered the cost of the broken dishwasher, he was unable to get it resolved due to miscommunications and misunderstandings with the delivery company. The experience left him feeling disillusioned and wishing he had opted for a used appliance instead. In another instance, the speaker encountered similar challenges when trying to fill a pool at a motel, leading to unexpected costs and delays. While these experiences were discouraging, they served as valuable lessons in the importance of communication, proactivity, and self-reliance when dealing with home repairs and maintenance.

    • Turning a negative into a positive with excellent customer serviceQuickly addressing customer concerns and providing timely solutions can turn a negative experience into a positive one, maintaining a good reputation and ensuring customer satisfaction

      Providing excellent customer service can turn a potential negative experience into a positive one. In the discussed scenario, several issues arose at a cabin rental, including a hair on the floor, broken string lights, and malfunctioning French doors. The guest expressed her concerns and felt let down, but the rental owner went above and beyond to rectify the situation. He contacted his cleaners and handyman to fix the issues promptly, and even replaced stolen items and ordered new string lights. The guest was impressed by the quick response and left a glowing review, expressing her gratitude for the exceptional service. This incident highlights the importance of addressing customer concerns and providing timely solutions to maintain a positive reputation and ensure customer satisfaction.

    • Focusing on the positive experiencesEmphasizing positive feedback leads to greater fulfillment and success. Learning from mistakes and sharing lessons can help others grow.

      Focusing on the positive experiences and feedback, rather than dwelling on the negative ones, can lead to greater fulfillment and success. This was emphasized through the speaker's experiences as a content creator and a short-term rental host. Despite encountering negative feedback and ratings, the speaker found that the overwhelmingly positive experiences and heartwarming stories made the challenges worthwhile. This perspective can be applied to various aspects of life and work, as focusing on the good can help improve mood, motivation, and overall satisfaction. Additionally, learning from mistakes and sharing those lessons with others can be a valuable way to help others grow and succeed.

    • Finding an investor-friendly agent is crucial in real estateConnect with local market experts via BiggerPockets Agent Finder to analyze numbers, navigate neighborhoods, and make informed real estate investments with confidence.

      Navigating the real estate market can be challenging, but having the right resources and experts on your side can make all the difference. Rob shared a personal experience of losing a domain name and the importance of holding on to what you value. In real estate, finding an investor-friendly agent is crucial to making informed decisions and achieving financial freedom. With BiggerPockets Agent Finder, you can quickly connect with local market experts who can help you analyze the numbers, navigate neighborhoods, and take action with confidence. Remember, the goal is not about timing the market, but rather being present in it. Don't let the shifting rates and headlines deter you. Take the first step towards finding your investor-friendly agent by visiting biggerpockets.com/deals today. And always remember, investing involves risk, so make informed decisions and consult with qualified advisors before making any moves.

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