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    #737: Naval Ravikant and Nick Kokonas

    enMay 15, 2024
    What sleep solutions do Eight Sleep and Mementis offer?
    How does Eight Sleep's Pod 4 Ultra work?
    Why do Olympians trust Mementis for sleep supplements?
    What role did philosophy play in the speaker's career?
    How can understanding risk improve decision-making in business?

    Podcast Summary

    • Sleep innovationTwo companies, Eight Sleep and Mementis, offer unique sleep solutions: Eight Sleep's Pod 4 Ultra adjusts temperature, elevates to stop snoring, and tracks sleep metrics, while Mementis provides supplements, trusted by athletes, to aid sleep onset and duration.

      Both Eight Sleep and Mementis offer innovative solutions to improve sleep quality. Eight Sleep's Pod 4 Ultra not only cools and heats each side of the bed but also elevates to stop snoring and tracks sleep metrics. Mementis provides high-quality supplements, including Momentus Mag3, 8 L Theanine, and Apogenin, which help improve sleep onset and duration. Olympians, Tour de France winners, and various sports teams trust Mementis, and their products contain third-party tested ingredients for guaranteed purity. By prioritizing honesty, being present, and using these products, individuals can enhance their sleep experience and overall happiness.

    • Founder qualitiesLook for intelligence, energy, and integrity in founders, as they ensure a deep understanding, sustainability, and trust in the venture. Enjoy working with them, and develop emotional intelligence and self-awareness for informed decisions.

      When investing in or working with founders, intelligence, energy, and integrity are essential qualities to look for. Intelligence ensures a deep understanding of the venture, energy sustains the founder through the long and challenging journey, and integrity builds trust and ethical business practices. Additionally, it's crucial to genuinely enjoy working with these individuals, as the partnership will last for an extended period. Emotional intelligence and self-awareness are vital skills for investors to develop, as they help overcome biases and make informed decisions. Books and philosophers, such as Seneca, Marcus Aurelius, Sam Harris, and Jiddu Krishnamurti, have significantly influenced the speaker's ability to invest and develop these skills. Ultimately, investing is a skill that requires constant effort and improvement.

    • Effectiveness of social media vs. booksWhile social media offers quick bursts of info, books provide deeper insights and wisdom on complex topics. Flexible reading approach, meditation, and self-awareness contribute to success.

      While social media can provide quick bursts of information and entertainment, it may not be the most effective way to learn and gain deep understanding of complex topics. The speaker suggests that reading source books, especially those that have stood the test of time, can offer valuable insights and wisdom on old problems. He also advocates for a flexible approach to reading, where one can treat books as bite-sized pieces and not feel obligated to finish them if they become boring or unproductive. The ultimate goal is to achieve a peaceful and grateful state of mind, which can be facilitated through practices like meditation and non-judgmental awareness. Success, according to the speaker, is not just about winning or achieving material wealth, but also about rising above the game and having internal mental and self-awareness.

    • Thoughts and PerceptionRecognizing 90% of our thoughts are fear-based can help quiet the mind and appreciate the present moment. Awareness of thoughts and habits can lead to positive changes and a more fulfilling life.

      Our thoughts, whether based on fear or desire, can significantly impact our perception of ourselves and the world around us. The speaker shares how he discovered that 90% of his thoughts are fear-based and how recognizing this can help quiet the mind and appreciate the present moment. He emphasizes the importance of habits and the power they have in shaping our lives, whether for better or worse. The speaker encourages the audience to be aware of their thoughts and to try and replace fear-based habits with positive ones, leading to a more fulfilling and effortless life.

    • Self-improvement and LoveBe true to oneself, relax, live in the moment, focus on personal growth, give love freely, be aware of desires, accept situations, and be worthy of a worthy mate.

      Self-improvement and giving love are key to living a fulfilling life. The speaker emphasized the importance of being true to oneself, relaxing, and living in the moment. He also noted that love is something that can't be bought or forced, but can be given freely. The speaker recommended focusing on personal growth to attract good things and people into one's life. He also advised being aware of desires and limiting them to avoid unnecessary suffering. The speaker quoted Charlie Munger's advice to be worthy of a worthy mate and emphasized the importance of self-acceptance. The speaker encouraged accepting situations rather than constantly wishing for change or leaving them unaddressed. The speaker ended by promoting LinkedIn Jobs as a helpful tool for small businesses looking to hire quality professionals efficiently.

    • Behavioral EconomicsRecognizing and addressing opaque information and making intentional decisions is crucial in various fields, including finance and business, as emphasized by Nobel Prize-winning investor Richard Thaler.

      Understanding human behavior and decision-making, as studied in behavioral economics, is crucial in various fields, including finance and business. Richard Thaler, a Nobel Prize-winning investor and friend of the speaker, emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing opaque information and making intentional decisions. The speaker's background in philosophy, which taught him to think critically and process information effectively, has been an asset throughout his diverse career in finance, owning businesses, and beyond. The key to success lies in being disciplined, clear-headed, and focused on making the best decisions possible, even when faced with chaos and uncertainty.

    • Philosophy, Career SuccessStudying philosophy can lead to unexpected career opportunities and success by developing abstract thinking skills and providing valuable insights into human behavior and systems.

      Having a strong foundation in abstract thinking, as gained through the study of philosophy, can lead to unexpected career opportunities and success. The speaker shares his personal experience of faking his resume to get a job on the trading floor, where he found mentorship from a philosophy major. He emphasizes the value of questioning "why" and the importance of mentors who invest time and effort in developing one's potential. The speaker also reflects on the transformative impact of a Logic 101 professor who recognized his potential and took him under his wing. For those considering entrepreneurship, the speaker suggests that delving into philosophy may provide valuable insights and skills, particularly in understanding the underlying principles of systems and human behavior.

    • Philosophy explorationExploring philosophy offers rich insights into human curiosity and questions about the world, accessible to anyone with a desire to learn, through various means like classes or free online courses.

      Philosophy, whether through reading or learning from experts, offers a rich and inspirational exploration of human curiosity and questions about the world. It's not just about ancient philosophers or complex theories; it's accessible to anyone with a desire to learn. Additionally, there are various ways to engage with philosophy, such as attending adult education classes or accessing free online courses. The speaker's personal experience includes struggling to find meaning in a corporate job and eventually discovering a passion for trading, which was fueled by his curiosity and desire for understanding the world around him. Ultimately, the journey to learn and explore new ideas, whether in philosophy or other fields, is a valuable and ongoing process.

    • Trading, Decision MakingQuick decision-making, mental agility, and finding opportunities with significant upside and limited downside are crucial skills in trading. Training harder than competition and understanding asymmetric risk can lead to personal and professional growth.

      The speaker's experience working in the fast-paced trading world taught him the importance of quick decision-making, mental agility, and the value of asymmetric risk. He emphasizes the importance of training that is harder than the competition and the satisfaction of performing well under pressure. The speaker recommends looking for opportunities with significant upside and limited downside, and mentions Nassim Taleb's book "Fooled by Randomness" as a valuable resource for understanding how people often price things incorrectly. Despite the challenges and negatives of the system, the speaker reflects on the mental training he received as invaluable for his personal and professional growth.

    • Risk PerceptionPeople often underestimate or overestimate risks in various areas of life, leading to missed opportunities or unnecessary fear. Understanding the true nature of risk, doing thorough research, and being persistent are crucial for seizing opportunities with high potential rewards.

      People often misjudge risk and potential outcomes, whether it's in investing, business, or other areas of life. This misperception can lead to missed opportunities or unnecessary fear. For instance, in the casino, people often underestimate the house edge, while in business, the high failure rate of restaurants or startups might deter some individuals. However, these perceived risks might not be as significant as they seem, and the potential rewards can be substantial. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the true nature of risk, doing thorough research, and being persistent in pursuing opportunities that have a high potential for reward despite the perceived risks. Additionally, the speaker suggests that the fear of failure should not prevent one from taking calculated risks, as some of the most successful ventures have originated from high-risk situations.

    • Shared experiences and intellectual exchangesThrough shared interests and experiences, meaningful connections can be formed between unlikely pairs, leading to successful collaborations based on trust and mutual values.

      Meaningful connections can be formed through shared experiences and intellectual exchanges, even between seemingly unlikely pairs. In this story, a man named Grant was transformed by a culinary experience at a restaurant, and through their mutual passion for food and art, he formed a deep connection with a customer, leading to the opening of a successful restaurant together. Despite not knowing each other well initially, they trusted each other enough to embark on this business venture based on their shared values and interests. It's a reminder that sometimes, all it takes is an open mind and a willingness to explore new experiences to form meaningful connections.

    • Emotionally engaging partnershipsRecognizing someone's dedication and commitment to their craft, even without industry experience, can lead to a successful and emotionally engaging partnership.

      The speaker discovered a unique partnership with Grant, who was fully committed to starting a restaurant despite lacking experience in the industry. The speaker recognized Grant's dedication and saw potential in him, eventually leading them to collaborate on creating an emotionally engaging dining experience. The process involved questioning the "why" behind every detail and designing every aspect of the restaurant to evoke emotional responses. The speaker was motivated by the idea of working with someone who was fully invested in their craft, even if it meant stepping out of their comfort zone. This partnership ultimately led to the creation of a successful restaurant.

    • Business DecisionsEvery business decision, no matter how small, can have a significant impact on the overall experience and financial viability of a business. Alinea's founders' curiosity and transparency led to a unique dining experience and profitability.

      Every detail in designing and running a business, no matter how small or seemingly insignificant, can have a ripple effect on the overall experience. From the choice of using candles in a restaurant to the material of the tables, each decision can lead to a chain reaction of questions, solutions, and art projects. In the case of Alinea, the founders' curiosity and willingness to challenge conventional wisdom resulted in a unique dining experience that defied expectations. To make this venture financially viable, they adopted a transparent business model by openly sharing their plans and calculations online. They also started with a back-of-the-envelope calculation to understand the financial feasibility of their business. Despite initial challenges, they managed to turn a profit and even won accolades for their innovative approach. So, the next time you're faced with a business decision, no matter how small, remember that it could be the start of a fascinating cascade of events that could set your business apart from the competition.

    • Restaurant reservation systemOutdated reservation systems in the restaurant industry lead to significant revenue loss due to underutilized seating capacity, no-shows, and misaligned incentives. Challenging industry norms, understanding customer behavior, and leveraging technology can help optimize business operations and increase revenue.

      The restaurant industry's outdated reservation system leads to significant revenue loss and suboptimal customer experience. This issue came to light during a pivotal moment in the career of a restaurant owner, who had secured a glowing review from renowned food critic Ruth Reichl, but was faced with the challenge of maintaining the restaurant's success while dealing with the unexpected diagnosis of his chef partner. During this time, the owner became increasingly frustrated with the industry's norms and began questioning the reservation system's inefficiencies. He noticed that restaurants often underutilized their seating capacity, leading to revenue loss due to no-shows and underbooking. This problem was further compounded by the lack of communication and misaligned incentives between restaurants and customers. Determined to find a solution, the owner embarked on a mission to create a more transactional reservation system. He sought out software companies and theater ticketing systems, but was met with rejection. Eventually, he collaborated with a programmer to build a rudimentary booking system, which resulted in a significant increase in revenue. This experience taught the owner valuable lessons about the importance of challenging industry norms, understanding customer behavior, and leveraging technology to optimize business operations.

    • Consumer behavior and technologyImplementing a dynamic pricing system for restaurant reservations can attract various customer segments and increase revenue, while also improving customer experience and managing demand.

      Understanding consumer behavior and psychology, as well as utilizing technology to optimize pricing and offerings, can significantly increase revenue for businesses. The speaker shared his experience with implementing a ticketing system for restaurant reservations, which initially faced skepticism but proved successful. Historically, people have prepaid for room and board, and the speaker aimed to update this transaction for the modern era. By pricing meals differently based on day and time, restaurants can attract both price-conscious and high-spending customers. This system also allows for additional revenue streams, such as selling merchandise or experiences during the booking process. The speaker emphasized the importance of transparency and giving customers control, as opposed to traditional upselling methods that can feel intrusive. By implementing this system, restaurants can increase revenue, improve customer experience, and better manage demand.

    • Starting complex businessesDeciding on a clear concept, creating a versatile kitchen, and dealing with disagreements are crucial for starting a unique business, while software implementation, unexpected demand, and team adaptability are additional challenges.

      Starting a unique and complex business, such as a restaurant with a specific concept and time-traveling menu, involves overcoming numerous challenges. The discussion highlights the importance of deciding on a clear concept, creating a versatile kitchen, and dealing with disagreements between partners. Additionally, the implementation of software and technology, as well as handling unexpected high demand, can lead to unexpected hurdles. Despite these challenges, staying committed and engaging with the customer base can lead to a sense of community and understanding. The success of the business ultimately relies on the team's ability to adapt and innovate.

    • Customer pain pointsAddressing customer pain points through transparency and innovation can lead to significant business growth, even if the initial product has room for improvement.

      Identifying and addressing customer pain points through transparency and innovation can lead to significant business growth, even if the initial software or solution has room for improvement. The speaker, who developed a software to manage restaurant reservations, shares how a serendipitous sale and subsequent discovery of a high demand for the software led him to believe in its potential. Despite the software's initial flaws, the concept's potential to transform the industry and provide a better customer experience outweighed the risks. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of transparency in business, especially in the hospitality industry, and how it can lead to increased customer trust and loyalty. The development of the software also led to other improvements, such as visual food cost analysis tools, which further enhanced the business's operations.

    • Questioning the status quoQuestioning the status quo can lead to significant advantages in various aspects of business, including publicity and arbitrage. Measurable marketing channels like social media and identifying opaque markets are key strategies.

      Focusing on what truly matters and questioning the status quo can lead to significant advantages. The speakers in this conversation have successfully applied this mindset to various aspects of their business, including publicity and arbitrage. They emphasized the importance of measurable marketing channels like social media and the value of identifying and challenging opaque markets, such as the truffle industry. Charlie Munger's quote, "It is remarkable how much long-term advantage people like us have gotten by trying to be consistently not stupid instead of trying to be very intelligent," highlights the importance of this approach. By consistently questioning and challenging the norms, individuals and businesses can uncover opportunities that others may overlook.

    • Intern CompensationPaying interns for independent research projects not only adds value to their learning experience but also acts as an entrepreneurial filter. Hiring the right people through transparent interviews and allowing them to self-select into the organization is crucial for building a team of self-motivated, curious, and passionate individuals.

      Paying interns for independent research projects not only adds value to their learning experience but also acts as an entrepreneurial filter. The restaurant industry veteran in the discussion emphasizes the importance of valuing people's time and efforts, even during research projects. He believes that people who are passionately curious and self-motivated will take on such projects enthusiastically, leading to interesting solutions and potential discoveries. However, the entrepreneurial spirit doesn't always require immediate cash flow. There will be periods of unpaid work, late nights, and weekends dedicated to solving complex problems. The discussion also highlights the importance of hiring the right people through transparent interviews and allowing them to self-select into the organization. The interview process can include questions that test intellectual curiosity, writing skills, and motivation. The answers to these questions can provide valuable insights into a candidate's potential fit within the organization. Ultimately, the goal is to build a team of self-motivated, curious, and passionate individuals who can contribute to the organization's growth.

    • Effective communicationMaintain attentiveness and authenticity in communication, even when unable to respond personally to every email, to build a successful organization

      Effective communication, even if it means not being able to respond to every email, is crucial for building a successful organization. The speaker shares his personal struggles with managing a high volume of emails and the importance of demonstrating attentiveness to his audience, even if a personal reply isn't possible. He also emphasizes the importance of maintaining a sense of humor and authenticity in all forms of communication. The speaker's approach to email may not be perfect, but his willingness to adapt and prioritize has allowed him to build a diverse team and foster a culture of questioning and learning.

    • Publishing costs and complexitiesPublishers may require significant upfront costs for design, photography, and printing, potentially limiting the author's budget and quality of the final product. Research, ask questions, and explore alternative printing methods to navigate the publishing process.

      The publishing industry can be opaque and confusing for those unfamiliar with its inner workings. The speaker in this conversation shares his experience of trying to publish a cookbook and uncovering hidden costs and complexities in the process. He discovered that publishers often require significant upfront costs for design, photography, and printing, which can eat into the author's budget and limit the quality of the final product. The speaker also mentions the subjectivity and potential for manipulation in the New York Times Bestseller list. To avoid these pitfalls, the speaker recommends doing thorough research, asking questions, and seeking out alternative printing methods. Overall, this conversation highlights the importance of transparency and understanding in the publishing process.

    • Unconventional publishing approachDirectly negotiating with publishers and handling production and distribution can lead to significant financial gains and awards in publishing a cookbook

      Having control over the production and distribution of a product, in this case a cookbook, can lead to significant financial gains and awards. The speaker, Grant Achatz, shared his experience of publishing a cookbook without an advance and keeping the majority of the profits. He achieved this by negotiating directly with publishers and handling the printing and editing himself. This unconventional approach led to winning prestigious awards, including the James Beard Award and Communication Arts Awards. The knowledge of this profitable arrangement was kept as a secret for years, allowing them to continue selling thousands of copies annually. Additionally, Achatz shared his experience of selling his house using a reverse Dutch auction, which is a method of pricing an item higher than its intrinsic value and offering a high commission to the seller's agent, resulting in a quick sale. This negotiation skill was applied in publishing, allowing him to secure a lucrative deal.

    • Determination and PassionDetermination and passion can lead to extraordinary works, even when initial plans don't go as planned. Collaborating with an autodidact led to a beautifully illustrated and written book, exceeding expectations and raising almost a million dollars through innovative marketing.

      Determination and passion can lead to creating extraordinary works, even if the initial plan doesn't go as planned. In this case, the team behind the Elenia cookbook couldn't figure out how to create another book in the same style, so they met Alan Hemberger, an autodidact with a fascination for the Elenia book. Alan spent five years not only cooking through the entire book but also learning various skills related to it. When he discovered errors in the book, his perspective changed, and the team decided to collaborate on a new project, the Alinea Project. Despite challenges, such as waiting for the right team to join and having a baby, they persevered and created a beautifully illustrated and written book that exceeded their expectations. The project was self-published, and through innovative marketing strategies, they raised almost a million dollars and sold thousands of copies. The success story demonstrates that with dedication and creativity, one can turn a seemingly impossible situation into a remarkable achievement.

    • Culinary approach to cocktailsHigh-quality ingredients and a culinary approach can transform simple cocktails. Intellectual curiosity and joy of learning are essential in discovering older, artisanal spirits.

      While simple cocktails like a daiquiri or a margarita may seem unremarkable, they can be transformative when made with high-quality ingredients and a culinary approach. The same can be said for discovering and enjoying older, artisanal spirits. Nick Kokonas, a businessman and cocktail enthusiast, shared his passion for well-crafted cocktails and the enduring fascination of the culinary world. He emphasized the importance of intellectual curiosity and the joy of learning, whether it's through reading books, visiting establishments like The Aviary, or even finding old art books in used bookstores. If he could put a message on a billboard, it would be to "pause" and be curious. Nick can be found on social media platforms Instagram (@endcoconus) and Twitter (@Nickcoconus), and his websites lineargroup.com, exploretalk.com, and aviarybook.com offer more insights into his world.

    • Five Bullet Friday findsTim Ferriss shares a weekly list of recommended articles, books, music, gadgets, and more through his newsletter Five Bullet Friday. He also recommends Mementis supplements for sleep and cognitive performance, and Eight Sleep's temperature-regulating bed covers and adjustable base.

      Tim Ferriss, the host of the podcast, shares his curated list of interesting finds every week through his newsletter called Five Bullet Friday. It's a short and fun email that includes articles, books, music, gadgets, and more. You can sign up by visiting tim.blog/friday and entering your email address. Additionally, Tim highlighted Mementis, a company that offers high-quality supplements with third-party tested formulations, which he personally uses for sleep and cognitive performance. Mementis partners with top experts in human performance and their products are trusted by athletes, teams, and organizations. Lastly, Tim mentioned Eight Sleep, a company that produces temperature-regulating bed covers that can cool or warm each side of the bed, and can even detect and stop snoring. The latest version, Pod 4 Ultra, also includes an adjustable base for optimal sleeping positions. You can get $350 off the Pod 4 Ultra by visiting 8sleep.com/Tim and using the code TIM.

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    #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck

    #764: Edward Norton and Martha Beck

    This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.

    The episode features segments from episode #133 "Edward Norton on Mastery, Must-Read Books, and The Future of Crowdfunding" and #732 "Martha Beck — The Amazing and Brutal Results of Zero Lies for 365 Days, How to Do a Beginner 'Integrity Cleanse,' Lessons from Lion Trackers, and Novel Tactics for Reducing Anxiety."

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    [00:00] Start 

    [05:45] Notes about this supercombo format.

    [06:48] Enter Edward Norton.

    [07:19] Edward's introduction to acting.

    [08:45] First theater mentors and what they instilled in Edward.

    [12:11] Who comes to mind when Edward hears the word "successful?"

    [13:18] Most gifted books.

    [14:28] Life-changing essays.

    [15:50] Favorite documentaries.

    [16:40] Underrated movies.

    [18:51] Edward's advice to his younger selves.

    [20:09] Community appreciation.

    [22:37] Enter Martha Beck.

    [23:08] My contribution to teen atrociousness.

    [23:40] Connecting with Boyd Varty.

    [29:28] The path of not here.

    [33:25] Finding joy in the body can save your life.

    [38:18] The pregnant pause that ended Martha's obsession with intellect.

    [43:52] Sensitivity and suffering.

    [47:38] The year of living lie-lessly.

    [52:37] An illuminating change of perspective.

    [1:02:08] The path to taking a black belt integrity cleanse.

    [1:05:36] Owning your right to say "No."

    [1:09:39] Alternatives to "No" that remain honest.

    [1:13:05] The language of candor.

    [1:15:24] Ending relationships that have run their course.

    [1:16:30] The Asian influence.

    [1:20:20] Sweet or savory?

    [1:21:30] Are you comfortable?

    [1:23:27] Want vs. yearning and jumping the track.

    [1:36:30] Rhino ruminations.

    [1:38:00] The Tao Te Ching, Stephen Mitchell, and Byron Katie.

    [1:49:13] America's Goethe?

    [1:52:15] Weighing kryptonite against superpowers.

    [2:00:09] Exploring the opposite of anxiety.

    [2:12:55] Dick Schwartz and Internal Family Systems.

    [2:17:46] Compassion even for the self's unwanted pieces.

    [2:20:14] Favorite animal.

    [2:24:52] Equine therapy.

    [2:31:00] Selling the ranch.

    [2:34:31] The monkey whisperer.

    [2:36:00] Parting thoughts.

    *

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    #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty

    #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty

    This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.

    The episode features segments from episode #573 "Margaret Atwood — A Living Legend on Creative Process, The Handmaid’s Tale, Being a Mercenary Child, Resisting Labels, the Poet Rug Exchange, Liminal Beings, Burning Questions, Practical Utopias, and More" and #571 "Boyd Varty — The Lion Tracker’s Guide to Life."

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    [00:00] Start

    [05:11] Notes about this supercombo format.

    [06:14] Enter Margaret Atwood.

    [06:48] What drives Margaret's ability to craft engaging speculative fiction?

    [10:52] The downsides of raising a family isolated in the woods.

    [15:44] Factors that nudged young Margaret toward poetry.

    [21:54] How limited options led Margaret to her current vocation.

    [24:07] How long it took for writing to pay off, and its benefits in the meantime.

    [30:34] Life lessons learned by teaching.

    [34:18] Enter Boyd Varty.

    [34:42] Setting the scene.

    [37:00] Origins of Londolozi Game Reserve and Boyd's childhood influences.

    [39:17] Why Boyd's family kept the seemingly useless property.

    [41:23] Boyd's experiences with The White Knuckle Charter Company.

    [50:00] Transforming scrubland into a safari business with help from Ken Tinley and Shangaan trackers.

    [56:04] Shangaan trackers' lineage and wildlife trust in Londolozi's caretakers.

    [59:46] Renias Mhlongo's supreme tracking skills and work ethic.

    [1:05:18] Hardest animals to track at Londolozi.

    [1:08:30] Safety measures in Londolozi's unpredictable environment.

    [1:10:21] "I don't know where we're going, but I know exactly how to get there." —Renias Mhlongo

    [1:12:26] Boyd's tracking evolution: from childhood to trauma recovery.

    [1:30:30] Definition of Ubuntu.

    [1:32:40] Boyd's 40-day tree-dwelling experience.

    [1:45:47] Bees, birds, and hive algorithms.

    [1:57:07] Interacting with lions in the wild.

    [2:01:41] Death conversations, ancient myths, and inexplicable animal movements.

    [2:07:30] Comparing trauma recovery paths within Boyd's family.

    [2:11:08] Ceremony work for trauma healing.

    [2:14:06] An authentic life as activism.

    [2:19:27] The impact of Byron Katie's Work on Boyd and me.

    [2:23:55] Boyd's first sweat lodge experience in Arizona.

    [2:29:18] Feelings. Nothing more than feelings.

    [2:31:48] What a close encounter with a beautiful predator taught Boyd about Ubuntu.

    [2:40:53] The therapeutic value of spending time with animals.

    [2:45:22] Contrasting lion roar descriptions: van der Post vs. Boyd.

    [2:49:40] Invitation to Londolozi and parting thoughts.

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    #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson

    #762: Coach George Raveling and Claire Hughes Johnson

    This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.

    The episode features segments from episode #332 "Coach George Raveling — A Legend on Sports, Business, and The Great Game of Life" and #724 "Claire Hughes Johnson — How to Take Responsibility for Your Life, Create Rules That Work, Stop Being a Victim, Set Strong Boundaries, and More."

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    [00:00] Start

    [05:14] Notes about this supercombo format.

    [06:17] Enter George Raveling.

    [06:48] The most important conversation is the one you have with yourself.

    [09:03] The only two choices George has when he gets out of bed in the morning

    [11:13] A personal audit once per week.

    [11:40] Retirement at 80?

    [12:10] George's controversial collection.

    [14:50] George's less controversial collections.

    [15:44] Relationships as a privilege.

    [17:28] Most of George’s best friendships started by mistake.

    [18:20] The importance of maintaining friendships with younger people.

    [19:22] Relationships as a patnership.

    [19:52] A voracious reading habit.

    [23:28] How George selects his next book.

    [25:17] How George continues to grow in his 80s.

    [29:09] Recommended reading.

    [30:42] Kindness as an opportunity.

    [33:32] The 1984 Olympics.

    [37:32] Enter Claire Hughes Johnson.

    [37:54] Say the thing you think you cannot say.

    [43:26] Detoxifying your left-hand column.

    [51:11] Victim versus player.

    [58:43] Recommended reading.

    [1:05:32] The case for reading fiction.

    [1:12:57] Crafting a working-with-me document.

    [1:20:47] Make the implicit explicit.

    [1:26:07] An Irish Goodbye.

    [1:27:13] Email policies.

    [1:32:37] Renegotiating the terms of expectations.

    [1:34:41] Listening for the quiet no.

    [1:37:06] Money versus time.

    [1:38:53] Good rules can be liberating.

    [1:41:39] Leadership and disappointment.

    [1:46:38] Renegotiating past disappointment.

    [2:05:45] Asking a question versus stating an opinion.

    [2:09:37] Training wheels for a "no."

    [2:11:06] Time, talent, treasure, and testimony.

    [2:15:16] Spotting bad apples while hiring.

    [2:17:16] If you're not self-aware, how would you know?

    [2:20:01] Work style assessments for self-awareness building.

    [2:27:17] Paragons of no.

    [2:29:30] No more boards.

    [2:33:37] Pushers and pullers.

    [2:40:32] Parting thoughts.

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    #761: General Stanley McChrystal and Liv Boeree

    #761: General Stanley McChrystal and Liv Boeree

    This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.

    The episode features segments from episode #86 "General Stan McChrystal on Eating One Meal Per Day, Special Ops, and Mental Toughness" and #611 "Liv Boeree, Poker and Life — Core Strategies, Turning $500 into $1.7M, Cage Dancing, Game Theory, and Metaphysical Curiosities"

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    [00:00] Start

    [05:57] Notes about this supercombo format.

    [07:01] Enter General Stanley McChrystal.

    [07:24] One meal a day.

    [08:52] Daily exercise routines and their importance.

    [14:04] The book most gifted.

    [15:15] A major course correction at West Point.

    [19:33] Vetting, selecting, and educating candidates for combat.

    [21:41] "No-win" leadership roleplaying.

    [25:21] Underrated military leaders.

    [27:17] Audiobooks.

    [29:13] What books make Stan's reading list?

    [30:29] Hopeless dilemmas and managing self-talk in high-pressure environments.

    [37:09] Enter Liv Boeree.

    [37:35] Youthful obsessions.

    [42:04] How poker entered the picture.

    [49:45] The qualities that made Liv excel at poker from the start.

    [55:55] Liv's advice to a newcomer wanting to learn poker.

    [1:04:54] What Liv's eight-week poker education curriculum might look like.

    [1:11:31] Failure points that might discourage someone during this curriculum.

    [1:13:35] Red mist, white noise, and fast math.

    [1:19:37] Volcano-induced tournament participation and self-regulation.

    [1:28:27] A skeptic's experiences with the unexplainable.

    [1:44:19] How does Liv rationally coexist with these experiences?

    [1:48:09] How to become a better skeptic.

    [1:54:18] Inadequate Equilibria and Moloch.

    [1:59:14] Parting thoughts.

    *

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    #760: Robert Rodriguez and Susan Cain

    #760: Robert Rodriguez and Susan Cain

    This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.

    The episode features segments from episode #98 "The 'Wizard' of Hollywood, Robert Rodriguez" and #358 "Susan Cain — How to Overcome Fear and Embrace Creativity."

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    [00:00] Start

    [06:08] Notes about this supercombo format.

    [07:12] Enter Robert Rodriguez.

    [07:39] Journaling as a crucial component of personal and professional life.

    [15:01] Keeping crew morale high during a project.

    [16:16] The magic that happens when creativity truly clicks.

    [20:47] How applied creativity dissolves the separation between work and play.

    [23:01] The legendary financing of El Mariachi.

    [25:56] From Bedhead to an unexpected big break.

    [30:57] Overcoming budgetary and technological constraints.

    [34:54] Maintaining momentum when lack of resources is no longer a creative driver.

    [39:33] Enter Susan Cain.

    [40:04] What initiated Susan’s lifelong fear of public speaking?

    [43:09] How Susan's TED Talk opportunity arose, and its initial reception.

    [44:06] Introvert strategies for group dinners.

    [46:45] Reflecting on my sixth-grade self.

    [47:58] How Susan overcame her fear of public speaking.

    [50:35] Even seasoned speakers get nervous before TED Talks.

    [52:15] Susan's progression to becoming a global public speaker.

    [54:08] Common traits of effective teachers and coaches.

    [55:45] Susan's pre-speaking engagement rituals.

    [57:16] Public speaking as a skill multiplier.

    [57:57] How Toastmasters and chihuahuas helped me overcome speaking fears.

    [1:00:50] Preparation for my own TED Talk.

    [1:02:21] Adam Grant's crucial pre-TED assistance.

    [1:04:00] The importance of rehearsing before live audiences.

    [1:04:49] My current level of nervousness before public speaking.

    [1:07:36] Time pressure in TED Talks.

    [1:08:51] Public speaking as a force multiplier and therapy.

    [1:11:32] Susan's techniques for relieving worry.

    [1:12:57] Susan's transition from law to writing.

    [1:16:07] Necessity vs. creativity in making a living.

    [1:18:10] Susan's timeline and process for writing her first book.

    [1:20:20] Susan's current writing process.

    [1:21:05] Susan's note-taking and organization.

    [1:24:16] Preferences for writing software.

    [1:26:19] Susan's enjoyment of the writing process.

    [1:27:05] Susan's preferred writing time.

    [1:28:07] Susan's writing schedule and break routine.

    [1:29:49] Night vs. morning writing and procrastination tactics.

    [1:31:51] Recommended books and resources on writing.

    [1:35:26] Serendipitous meetings that enabled first books.

    [1:40:16] Distinguishing introversion from shyness.

    [1:44:02] Books Susan frequently gifts.

    [1:45:09] My first meeting with Sam Harris.

    [1:47:37] Experiences with loving-kindness meditation.

    [1:49:24] Comparative effects of different meditation types.

    [1:55:35] Susan's billboard.

    [1:56:45] Advice for deep connection with others.

    [1:57:33] Susan's love for bittersweet music.

    [1:59:44] Parting thoughts.

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    #759: Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Todd McFarlane

    #759: Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Todd McFarlane

    This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited.

    The episode features segments from episode #691 "Nassim Nicholas Taleb & Scott Patterson — How Traders Make Billions in The New Age of Crisis, Defending Against Silent Risks, Personal Independence, Skepticism Where It (Really) Counts, The Bishop and The Economist, and Much More" and #639 "Todd McFarlane, Legendary Comic Book Artist — How to Make Iconic Art, Reinvent Spider-Man, Live Life on Your Own Terms, and Meet Every Deadline"

    Please enjoy!

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    Timestamps:

    [04:51] Notes about this supercombo format.

    [05:54] Enter Nassim Nicholas Taleb and Scott Patterson.

    [06:32] The joy of writing a preemptive resignation letter.

    [07:13] Developing resilience against criticism.

    [10:04] Nassim: contrarian, or simply independent?

    [12:27] Jiving with skeptical turkeys.

    [17:21] Persisting through the polycrisis.

    [19:18] Introducing the precautionary principle.

    [21:37] Nassim's preferred legacy.

    [23:50] Precautionary principle 101.

    [25:14] Fat tails, thin tails, the COVID vaccine, and GMOs.

    [32:51] Enter Todd McFarlane.

    [33:21] Baseball.

    [38:46] Rejection letters.

    [42:38] Compelling storytelling and meeting deadlines.

    [45:46] Deadlines pre-Internet vs. deadlines today.

    [48:36] How industry status quo led to the founding of Image Comic Books.

    [1:00:30] The Comics Code and the last straw.

    [1:06:52] The Marvel Dream Team exodus.

    [1:25:13] How is Todd's camel bladder a competitive advantage?

    [1:31:02] Career bouncing and double-shifting as a penciler and inker.

    [1:49:08] The happy accident of Venom.

    [1:55:46] De-Rockwelling the company icon and inventing "spaghetti webbing."

    [2:03:31] Bucking the status quo to become the status quo.

    [2:07:13] Parting thoughts and a promise for round two.

    *

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    #758: Jamie Foxx and Jacqueline Novogratz

    #758: Jamie Foxx and Jacqueline Novogratz

    This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #124 "Jamie Foxx on Workout Routines, Success Habits, and Untold Hollywood Stories" and #514 "Jacqueline Novogratz on Building Acumen, How to (Actually) Change the World, Speaking Your Truth, and the Incredible Power of 'Dumb' Questions"

    Please enjoy!

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    Timestamps:

    [06:50] Notes about this supercombo format.

    [07:53] Enter Jamie Foxx.

    [08:19] When Jamie met Kanye West.

    [10:58] Why Jamie considers his studio magical.

    [13:32] When Jamie met Ed Sheeran.

    [15:00] What's on the other side of fear?

    [16:53] Making impressions.

    [22:15] How Eric Marlon Bishop became Jamie Foxx.

    [24:49] Overcoming fear at open mics.

    [26:12] Could Prince or Michael Jackson find a career break in today’s "Age of Memes?"

    [27:49] How Jamie learned to read the room.

    [33:27] Why do some comedians lose the ability to make people laugh?

    [39:04] Enter Jacqueline Novogratz.

    [39:37] Jacqueline's background and siblings' accomplishments.

    [42:06] Jacqueline's journey into social impact investing.

    [45:15] An early banking career and reputation for asking tough questions.

    [48:36] A tendency to champion underdogs.

    [53:18] From banker to disruptor.

    [1:00:04] Jacqueline's first opportunity in her new path.

    [1:05:28] Failures, small wins, and perseverance.

    [1:09:21] Jacqueline's first real win in Rwanda.

    [1:13:37] The path between Rwanda and founding Acumen.

    [1:16:06] Jacqueline's reasons for applying to Stanford Business School.

    [1:18:10] How the Rwanda genocide redefined poverty for Jacqueline.

    [1:20:42] Lessons Jacqueline learned about human nature from the genocide.

    [1:26:25] Acumen's three main functions and naming process.

    [1:29:12] The quantification of impact investment through Lean Data.

    [1:37:28] Alternative names for Acumen that got left on the cutting room floor.

    [1:40:43] The concept of moral imagination.

    [1:44:55] An early win at Acumen.

    [1:50:43] Advice for young people aspiring to create positive change.

    [1:53:20] The benefits of committing to something larger than oneself.

    [1:56:10] Characteristics of a good mentor.

    [1:59:36] Book recommendations.

    [2:02:48] Advice for impact investors at various levels.

    [2:09:20] Next steps for investors to start making a difference.

    [2:14:00] Jacqueline's authenticity.

    [2:17:07] A taste of potential topics for a future round two.

    [2:20:55] Parting thoughts.

    *

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    #757: Matthew McConaughey and Aisha Tyler

    #757: Matthew McConaughey and Aisha Tyler

    This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #474 "Matthew McConaughey — The Power of 'No, Thank You,' Key Life Lessons, 30+ Years of Diary Notes, and The Art of Catching Greenlights" and #327 "Aisha Tyler — How to Use Pain, Comedy, and Practice for Creativity."

    Please enjoy!

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    Timestamps:

    [04:58] Notes about this supercombo format.

    [05:51] Enter Matthew McConaughey.

    [06:19] The words forbidden in Matthew's house growing up.

    [08:58] The book that changed the course of Matthew's life.

    [17:27] Matthew's 10 goals in life (circa 1992).

    [22:20] Why take more risks?

    [26:04] The evolving purpose of keeping a diary.

    [29:48] The art of running downhill.

    [33:56] Learning to say "No" to rom-com typecasting.

    [47:50] Enter Aisha Tyler.

    [48:19] Aisha's role in The Tim Ferriss Show's existence.

    [49:43] Aisha's trademark podcast question.

    [51:06] Aisha's unorthodox childhood and family relationships.

    [52:06] How did Aisha answer the questions "Whose day is it?" and "What are you going to do?" every morning?

    [55:34] From where does Aisha get her general sense of optimism?

    [57:25] Following father's advice and views on regret.

    [59:22] Free-range parenting vs. modern overprotection.

    [1:03:33] Having a bad day? You're not special!

    [1:05:27] Young Aisha's career aspirations.

    [1:06:52] Why was Aisha miserable at what she thought was her dream job?

    [1:08:51] Why did Aisha pick standup comedy to break into show business?

    [1:10:08] What it was like to keep a day job and do standup comedy as a hobby.

    [1:11:50] Commuting for comedy in San Francisco.

    [1:14:03] What made the comedy club bubble of the '80s burst?

    [1:18:11] How did Aisha practice to get better at standup?

    [1:19:01] A memorable set Aisha bombed and the gift it gave her.

    [1:22:22] Dealing with hecklers Bill Burr and Kenny Moore style.

    [1:28:20] Aisha shares some of her own heckler stories.

    [1:32:31] Aisha's academic approach to the math of comedy.

    [1:34:43] What's the Rule of Threes?

    [1:35:36] Gauging comic evolution.

    [1:36:46] Comedians compared to other artists.

    [1:38:04] Changing success metrics and creative traps.

    [1:40:41] How fear-based people-pleasing affects creativity.

    [1:43:52] If one likes big butts, one cannot lie — even if it might tick someone off.

    [1:46:03] Sometimes constructive feedback does make me change my mind.

    [1:46:33] Pursuing authentic, meaningful work.

    [1:48:32] Comedy's core beyond humor.

    [1:49:04] Expecting failures in creative beginnings.

    [1:49:52] Why it doesn't pay to emulate a master of a craft in their own field.

    [1:51:51] Aisha's transition to filmmaking.

    [1:54:47] Aisha believes in personal aggression.

    [1:55:28] How Aisha piggybacked resources for her first music video.

    [1:56:30] Learning filmmaking through short projects.

    [1:58:03] What lessons did Aisha learn from these projects?

    [1:59:06] How visiting the sets of Penny Dreadful and Vikings in Ireland led to making AXIS.

    [2:00:52] Financing the Ireland trip.

    [2:02:35] The email Aisha sent to visit the set of Vikings.

    [2:03:18] The impact of fan appreciation.

    [2:04:50] Budweiser's "Whassup" campaign origin.

    [2:05:38] Why Aisha made AXIS.

    [2:07:06] Resources for aspiring screenwriters and tech investors.

    [2:08:06] What is AXIS, and did anyone try to talk Aisha out of making it?

    [2:09:53] AXIS production experience and methods.

    [2:12:00] The magic, intensity, and clarity of operating on an aggressive deadline.

    [2:15:00] Aisha's current fears and goals.

    [2:16:33] One of Aisha's current struggles.

    [2:17:24] "If art imitates life, in order to create art, you have to have a life."

    [2:18:33] As a workaholic, how does Aisha manage to live a life that influences her art?

    [2:20:58] How would Aisha's life be different if she didn't have exercise as an element?

    [2:22:47] What equipment does Aisha use to work out?

    [2:23:36] What does a prototypical workout look like for Aisha?

    [2:23:53] How does Aisha take her glutathione, and what does it help with?

    [2:26:40] Morning routine and exercise timing.

    [2:27:40] Aisha works out at home to save transit time. What does she watch when she rows?

    [2:29:39] Does Aisha make New Year's resolutions?

    [2:32:17] Aisha likens her first (unwatchable and destroyed) short film to the standup set she bombed.

    [2:34:58] When has Aisha been extremely proud of herself?

    [2:37:46] How confidence transfers across projects.

    [2:39:46] To grow from failure, you have to be aggressive.

    [2:40:24] Parting thoughts.

    *

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