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    Apple event rumors, Galaxy Note 8 review, and Loren in zero gravity

    enSeptember 08, 2017

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    • Live Podcast Recording at Apple EventThe VergeCast team is recording their podcast live at the Apple event and invites fans to attend and purchase tickets through Bitly. They discuss the shutdown of Juicero, a $400 over-engineered juicer, and will share insights on the upcoming Apple event leaks.

      The VergeCast team is excited to tape the podcast live in San Francisco next week during the Apple event. Audience members are encouraged to attend and can purchase tickets through the event's page on Bitly. The team discussed the recent shutdown of Juicero, a company that sold a $400 juicer that squeezed bags of juice and required a subscription. The team found the product's high price point and obsessive engineering reminiscent of Apple, but ultimately, Sarah's deep analysis of the product's over-engineering made it too expensive for consumers. The team also mentioned that they will be discussing the latest leaks about the upcoming Apple event. The VergeCast team enjoys engaging with their audience during live events and encourages fans to attend and hang out with them beforehand.

    • The Juicero fiasco and Red Sox cheating scandal: Consequences of overcomplicating simple processesBoth the Juicero's failure and the Red Sox cheating scandal underscore the importance of simplicity, affordability, and transparency in technology and sports.

      Both the Juicero fiasco and the Boston Red Sox cheating scandal illustrate the consequences of overcomplicating simple processes and the importance of affordability and transparency in technology and sports. The Juicero, a expensive machine designed to squeeze juice bags, failed due to its high cost and unnecessary complexity, while the Red Sox cheating scandal involved using an Apple Watch to relay signals to runners, highlighting the potential for technology to be used in deceptive ways. Both examples serve as reminders of the value of simplicity, affordability, and transparency in innovation.

    • Size vs Functionality: Note 8's Large Size JustifiedThe Note 8's larger size enables larger screen and stylus usage, but requires two hands for most tasks. Bezels provide a more comfortable grip and easier home button access. Samsung's TouchWiz interface has undergone significant refinement, making custom features valuable.

      The Galaxy Note 8, despite being larger than some other phones, justifies its size with improved functionality. Dan's review revealed that the phone's size starts to dominate usage after a while, making two hands necessary for most tasks. However, the Note 8's larger size also enables features like a larger screen and the stylus, which are not possible on smaller devices. Another interesting discovery was the impact of bezels on phone usage. Jake Giussero's experience with the Essential Phone, which has no bezel, showed that the software home button ended up being lower in the hand than usual, making it awkward for his thumb to reach. Conversely, the Note 8's larger bezel provides a more comfortable grip and easier access to the home button. Finally, the release of Oreo on the Pixel showed that Samsung's TouchWiz interface, which has been criticized in the past, has undergone significant refinement. Oreo's smoother performance and improved polish have made Samsung's custom features more valuable, rather than a detractor. Overall, the discussions highlighted the importance of considering a phone's size and interface design in evaluating its usability and user experience.

    • Gradual adoption of new features in Android OreoUsers should expect a gradual rollout of new features in Android Oreo and be prepared for potential confusion and frustration as not all phones will receive the full benefits of the update and Treble.

      While the new Android Oreo update brings exciting features like Project Treble and improved background processes, it may take some time before these changes significantly impact users' experiences. Additionally, not all phones will receive the full benefits of Oreo and Treble, leading to potential confusion and frustration. Furthermore, some announced features, like the live message thing on the Note 8, may lose their novelty over time. Ultimately, users should be prepared for a gradual adoption of these new features and continue to evaluate the benefits as they become available.

    • The Debate Over Smartphone Camera Features vs. Traditional CamerasWhile smartphone cameras offer convenience and new creative possibilities, some argue they're 'faking' advanced features and may not compare to traditional cameras when printed or viewed larger.

      While some people appreciate the creative possibilities of advanced camera features like live focus and portrait mode on smartphones, others find the need to manually enable these modes and check the results frustrating. The debate around the value of these features versus traditional cameras continues, with some arguing that phones are "faking their way back to DSLR" through gimmicks like depth of field and filters. However, the convenience of displaying and capturing images on the same device has revolutionized photography, even if the results may not hold up when printed or viewed on larger scales. Ultimately, the iPhone photography revolution lies in its ability to create and consume media on the same device, leading to a new kind of creativity. But as the technology advances, the challenge remains for companies to make these fakery as good as the real thing.

    • Utilizing unique device capabilities for content creationLeverage smartphone features for native photos, but don't forget the value of still photos. The definition of a 'pro' phone is evolving, and the lines between devices are blurring. Be aware of data security risks.

      Technology is constantly evolving, and it's essential to create content that utilizes the unique capabilities of each device. For instance, with the rise of smartphones, there's an opportunity to create native and interesting photos that take advantage of features like live photos. However, there's still value in great still photos, and the lines between different photo sharing apps and services are becoming increasingly blurred. Regarding the upcoming high-end phones, such as the iPhone Pro.x edition and the Note 8, the definition of a "pro" phone is still unclear, and it remains to be seen how it will enable users to do things that cannot be done on cheaper phones. The debate around content consumption versus creation, and the merging of different devices, is a complex issue that continues to be explored. Additionally, with recent data breaches like the Equifax hack, it's crucial to be aware of the potential risks and take steps to protect personal information.

    • ZipRecruiter's Efficient Job Matching vs Zero-G's Weightless FlightsZipRecruiter streamlines job hiring with advanced technology, while Zero-G offers a unique weightless flight experience

      ZipRecruiter sets itself apart from other job sites by actively finding and connecting employers with qualified candidates through its powerful technology. The company's easy-to-use dashboard allows employers to manage and screen candidates all in one place, saving time and resources. Meanwhile, Lauren, a guest on the podcast, shared her exciting experience of riding on a parabolic flight to experience weightlessness for the first time. The Zero-G Corporation, which offers these flights, is a small but professional company that offers research flights, tourist flights, and is the main provider of such experiences in the US. Lauren described the feeling of weightlessness as a disorienting yet incredible sensation. Overall, the episode highlighted the efficiency of ZipRecruiter in finding job candidates and the unique experience of weightlessness offered by the Zero-G Corporation.

    • Experiencing Zero Gravity on a Parabolic FlightParabolic flights offer an exhilarating yet challenging zero-gravity experience, requiring passengers to adapt to constant weight changes. Crew ensures safety and manages vomiting, while passengers enjoy unique tricks.

      Experiencing zero gravity on a parabolic flight is an exhilarating yet challenging experience. The body needs to adjust to the constant change between weight and weightlessness, and even seasoned travelers can find themselves struggling to maintain their bearings. The flight crew, led by the heroic director Miriam Nielsen, work diligently to ensure the safety and comfort of the passengers, even during the most challenging moments. However, not everyone can handle the experience equally well, and some may even experience vomiting, which can be managed efficiently by the crew. Despite the challenges, many passengers find joy in trying out various tricks, such as eating candies or doing flips, although their success varies greatly. Overall, a parabolic flight is an unforgettable journey that leaves a lasting impression.

    • Zero-Gravity's Challenges for AstronautsAstronauts face physical challenges like nausea, fluid shift, and brain retraining during extended zero-gravity experiences, but these conditions provide valuable research opportunities for NASA.

      The Zero-Gravity experience, despite being an amazing and unique sensation, comes with a cost. While it may only last a few minutes for civilians, astronauts experience these extreme conditions for extended periods in space. The constant transition between different states of gravity takes a toll on their bodies, requiring them to adapt and endure various physical challenges such as nausea, fluid shift, and the need to retrain their brains. However, these parabolic flights offer valuable opportunities for scientific research and testing of new technologies designed for space exploration, making the high cost worthwhile. NASA uses these experiences to help astronauts understand the unique challenges of working in zero-gravity environments and to prepare for the rigors of long-term space travel.

    • Exploring the Challenges and Rewards of Space TravelSpace travel demands rigorous training, addresses unique challenges, and offers multifaceted jobs for astronauts. Colonization requires more resources and planning, highlighting the complexity and dedication needed.

      Space travel is not a casual endeavor, and it requires extensive training and preparation for those who aspire to go. The space environment presents unique challenges, including potential medical emergencies and the need for constant adaptation. Astronauts have multifaceted jobs that involve various tasks each day, making their work both challenging and rewarding. As we look beyond getting to space, the next frontier is colonization, which will require even more resources and planning. Overall, the respect and appreciation for the dedication and effort required for space travel is profound, and it's essential to acknowledge the complexity of the endeavor. For those interested in learning more, they can follow Lauren Grash on Twitter at L-O-R-E-N-G-R-U-S-H. The positive feedback and enthusiasm from the audience for the Spacecraft series have been empowering and a meaningful metric of its success.

    • Insights into Spacecraft production and iPhone predictionsThe Spacecraft show discussed behind-the-scenes insights into simulating zero gravity, predicted three new iPhone models, and touched upon potential design changes and features.

      The discussion covered various topics, including the making of the Spacecraft show, speculations about the upcoming Apple iPhone event, and some light-hearted banter. A notable part of the Spacecraft conversation was the behind-the-scenes insights into the production process of simulating zero gravity on the plane. The audience's engagement and the hosts' passion for space added to the show's success. Regarding the iPhone event, there were predictions about the possible release of three new models, including the 7S, 8 Pro X, and the absence of a new SE. The discussion also touched upon potential design changes and features, such as a glass back and a possible reminder notification for the 7S. Overall, the conversation showcased a blend of space exploration, technology, and humor.

    • Apple's iPhone Release Strategy: High-End and Affordable ModelsApple's upcoming iPhone release includes a high-end model with limited availability and a more affordable model. Apple's reliance on Samsung for OLED screens may lead to a potential shortage and increased prices, emphasizing the importance of a high-quality display.

      Apple's upcoming iPhone release is expected to include a high-end model with limited availability and a more affordable model with similar features but without wireless charging and a slightly slower processor. This strategy, known as the "S model," has been a common Apple practice in the past. However, the current situation involves Apple's reliance on Samsung for OLED screens, which has led to a potential shortage and increased prices. The importance of having a high-quality display for the iPhone is emphasized, as it is a significant selling point for the brand. The situation with Apple and Samsung's business relationship and the potential impact of lawsuits on the industry are also key factors to consider. Overall, Apple's ability to maintain strong partnerships and deliver high-quality products remains crucial in a competitive market.

    • Apple's struggle for OLED displaysApple faces challenges in sourcing high-quality OLED displays due to Samsung's market dominance, increasing their vulnerability and hindering control over primary technologies.

      Apple faces a significant challenge in obtaining enough high-quality OLED displays for their iPhones, as Samsung currently holds a dominant position in the market. This situation puts Apple in a vulnerable position, as they have historically prioritized controlling their primary technologies. The complexity and high barriers to entry in producing OLEDs, coupled with Samsung's expertise and patent ownership, make it difficult for Apple to quickly overcome this challenge. Additionally, Apple is expected to focus on improving Siri and potentially introducing a new form factor for the Apple Watch during their upcoming event.

    • Apple Watch LTE: Value Proposition and Carrier CostsApple Watch LTE requires additional carrier costs, Apple must effectively communicate its value to justify expense, and upcoming Apple TV update brings 4K HDR capabilities with new indicators.

      The introduction of LTE connectivity to the Apple Watch raises the question of how much consumers are willing to pay for this added feature, as it may require additional costs from cellular carriers. The speaker also highlights Apple's need to clearly communicate the value of LTE to justify the potential expense. Additionally, the upcoming Apple TV update is expected to bring 4K HDR capabilities, which will be indicated by additional lights, or indicators, on the receiver. The speaker expresses excitement for Apple's upcoming event, as they've historically done well in explaining the value of their products. The discussion also touched upon the challenges Apple faces in competing with streaming devices like Amazon Fire Stick and Roku.

    • Apple TV's limitations in supporting Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos togetherApple TV can't offer Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos simultaneously, limiting its appeal for high-end AV enthusiasts. Its price, interface, and lack of power button or IR capabilities also hinder its competitiveness.

      While Apple TV supports Dolby Digital Plus and DTS Neuro X, it cannot support Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos together, making it impossible for users to experience these two high-end audio and video technologies simultaneously. Additionally, the interface of Apple TV is limited due to its commitment to TVOS and the presence of apps built around it. Apple TV's high price point and the availability of affordable alternatives like Roku make it a less attractive option for many consumers. The lack of a power button and IR capabilities in previous Apple TV models caused inconvenience for users, highlighting the complexity of integrating various devices in the TV ecosystem. However, Apple could potentially reposition Apple TV as a game console to differentiate itself from competitors like Sony and Microsoft. Despite these challenges, Apple TV remains a niche product for high-end AV enthusiasts. Parachute, a company that makes super comfy and ethically-sourced sheets, was a sponsor of the episode. Their products are all-natural, made in Europe, and they donate returns to Habitat for Humanity and malaria bed nets to those in need.

    • Discussing New Innovations and PartnershipsThe Harry Potter clock and new iPhone case with built-in AirPod charger demonstrate the importance of creativity and innovation. Clear communication is essential for understanding new technology features.

      Innovation and creativity are constantly evolving, as shown in the discussion about the Harry Potter clock and the new iPhone case with built-in AirPod charger. Paul and Dieter also touched upon various news topics, including discounts and partnerships from companies like Spotify, Hulu, T-Mobile, Netflix, Apple, Amazon, and Roku. During the conversation, Paul attempted to stall by describing the Harry Potter clock, which led Dieter to recall the name of the segment, "Dieter Saves the Day." The segment focused on the ETA clock and the new iPhone case with AirPod charging slots. The inventor of the Pebble smartwatch is behind this new product, aiming to create random, useful items instead of competing in the smartwatch market again. The discussion also included Paul's confusion about how AirPods connect to a phone and the revelation that they connect when taken out of the case and placed in the ears. This misunderstanding highlights the importance of understanding the unique features of technology and how they work. Overall, the conversation showcased the excitement and curiosity surrounding new products and partnerships, as well as the importance of clear communication and understanding.

    • Tech Companies as Media Distributors and Content CreatorsApple, Sony join media industry as distributors and creators, T-Mobile offers Netflix for free, consumers prefer unbundled services, Spotify-Hulu deal for students, Apple-MGM deal for James Bond rights, trend of tech companies in media set to continue

      Tech companies are increasingly becoming media distributors and creating original content, with Apple and Sony's acquisition of media rights being the latest examples. T-Mobile's move to offer Netflix for free to its customers is seen as a response to competitors like AT&T and Verizon. John Legere's criticism of bundling and faded internet brands reflects the growing consumer preference for unbundled services. The Spotify-Hulu deal for college students and the Apple-MGM deal for James Bond rights demonstrate the competitive landscape in the media industry. Apple's foray into content creation raises questions about its motives and ability to compete with established players. Overall, the trend of tech companies becoming media distributors and content creators is set to continue, with consumers benefiting from increased competition and more choices.

    • Mergers in Tech and Media: Exciting but with PitfallsMergers between tech and media companies can lead to strategic advantages but also lock-in effects and lack of inspiration. The stakes are particularly high for wireless or mobile broadband companies like AT&T due to their disruptive potential.

      The mergers between content and distribution companies, such as Comcast and NBC, are raising concerns due to potential lock-in effects and lack of inspiration. The speaker believes that the stakes are higher for companies focusing on wireless or mobile broadband, like AT&T, as they have more ambition and potential for disruptive innovation. The speaker also mentions the trend of tech and media partnerships, which may lead to strategic advantages but can also feel uninspired or forced. The speaker's perspective is not based on any major ethical, moral, or legal issues, but rather a feeling of annoyance towards the trend. Overall, the speaker sees the intersection of tech and media as an exciting space to watch, but with potential pitfalls.

    • Unexpected experiences teach us valuable lessonsStay open-minded, engaged, and curious in life to learn valuable lessons from unexpected experiences. Engage with various sources of information and connect with others to expand your knowledge.

      Life can surprise us with unexpected experiences, much like playing a new game or having a deep conversation. In the context of our discussion, this was exemplified through the speaker's mention of playing Assassin's Creed and encountering a schooner. This experience, while seemingly unrelated, provided valuable lessons and insights. Moreover, the importance of listening and engaging with various sources of information was emphasized. Whether it's a client's show, a podcast, or even the weeds, there's always something valuable to learn. The speaker also encouraged listeners to engage with the podcast and provide feedback, emphasizing the importance of community and connection. Lastly, the speaker signed off with a reminder to live life to the fullest and keep exploring new things, just like running with a chess move. Overall, the discussion highlighted the importance of staying open-minded, engaged, and curious in life.

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    The Vergecast returns to the New York studio this week. Dieter, Nilay, and Paul run through what was announced so far at IFA 2017, including the LG V30, Sony Xperia XZ1, and lots of smart speakers. Halfway through the show, Loren Grush makes a pit stop on her way to space to talk about episode 3 of her new video series Space Craft. 04:01 - LG’s V30 loses the gimmicks and gains a beautiful OLED screen 12:41 - Sony’s Xperia XZ1 and XZ1 Compact have refreshed designs and Android Oreo 21:10 - Lenovo made a weird $70 Alexa speaker that only works with its Android tablets 23:26 - Lenovo’s new Yoga 920 laptop has far-field microphones so you can shout at Cortana 24:56 - Google announces three third-party speakers with Assistant, plus LG appliance integration 34:07 - Space Craft episode three with Loren Grush 51:46 - In colossal screw up, Essential shared customers’ driver’s licenses over email 57:34 - Fitbit has a lot to prove with Ionic, its new smartwatch 1:08:56 - Paul’s weekly segment “Who will let me out of this yarn prison?” 1:11:03 - Sony's new wireless earbuds include noise-cancellation technology 1:12:36 - Apple’s iPhone 8 event is happening on September 12th Oh yeah, and Apple announced that its next event will be September 12th. So we announced we are doing a live Vergecast on September 13th in San Francisco! Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    What Congress doesn’t want to talk about (tax hikes)

    What Congress doesn’t want to talk about (tax hikes)

    The federal deficit is growing, and a former U.S. Treasury secretary is offering a solution: raising taxes! We’ll get into why talking tax hikes is a big no-no in Congress and why spending cuts may not cut it this time either. And, foreign nationals aren’t allowed to contribute to U.S. elections. But a loophole is seemingly allowing some foreign-influenced companies to do just that. Plus, the story of an astronaut and a dangerous ultimatum.

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