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    Are scrappage schemes a good deal and could your next car be electric?

    enSeptember 08, 2017

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    • Car manufacturers' scrappage schemes for new car salesCar manufacturers offer discounts on new vehicles in exchange for old ones, boosting sales while potentially promoting environmental benefits, but schemes' durations vary and government involvement is uncertain.

      Car manufacturers are currently offering scrappage schemes, allowing consumers to trade in their old vehicles for a discount on a new one. These schemes are not government-backed but rather an initiative by the manufacturers themselves. The popularity of these schemes has been significant in the past, with the 2009 scheme seeing a massive impact on the industry during a struggling economy. However, not all schemes run for the same duration, so it's essential to check the specifics of each one. Simon Lambert expresses a slightly cynical viewpoint, suggesting that the manufacturers' primary motivation might be to boost new car sales rather than solely focusing on environmental concerns. The government has yet to announce a similar scheme, and there are ongoing debates about which cars and consumers should be targeted.

    • Shift in car industry leading to increased interest in used carsDue to concerns over diesel cars, new car market saturation, and changes in car tax regulations, many people are turning to used cars instead of buying new ones. The high depreciation of new cars and eligibility criteria for scrappage schemes make used cars a more attractive option.

      The car industry is experiencing a shift due to various factors such as concerns over diesel cars, new car market saturation, and changes in car tax regulations. As a result, many people are turning to used cars instead of buying new ones. The carmakers have responded by introducing scrappage schemes to encourage sales of new cars. However, the schemes may not be as appealing to consumers due to the high depreciation of new cars, especially in the first few years. The schemes also require consumers to trade in their old cars, which may not be in the best condition or may not meet the eligibility criteria. Additionally, the government's focus on Brexit has made it difficult for them to implement new policies, including a potential scrappage scheme. Overall, the used car market is currently more attractive to consumers due to the various factors at play.

    • Understanding Car Scrappage SchemesCar scrappage schemes can offer significant savings, up to £8,000, but effectiveness depends on factors like requirements for trading in a car, type of car being bought, and manufacturer's policy on scrapping the old car. Research and understand specifics to determine if it's a good fit.

      The effectiveness of car scrappage schemes can depend on various factors, including the specific requirements for trading in a car, the type of car being bought, and the manufacturer's policy on scrapping the old car. Some schemes may offer significant savings, up to £8,000, while others may not guarantee the scrapping of the old car. Manufacturers with high-volume sales, like Ford, may offer better deals due to their large inventory. When negotiating a car purchase, it's essential to agree on the price of the new car before mentioning the scrappage scheme to maximize savings. However, it's important to note that some schemes are not called "scrappage" schemes but have similar policies. Ultimately, it's crucial to research and understand the specifics of each scheme to determine if it's a good fit for your needs.

    • Car Financing and DepreciationThe potential financial gain from car financing schemes may be outweighed by the depreciation of new cars, especially diesel ones. The shift towards electric and hybrid cars could impact car values in the future.

      While some people might benefit from car financing schemes that guarantee a certain resale value for their old car, the overall depreciation of new cars, especially diesel ones, might outweigh the initial financial gain. The shift towards electric and hybrid cars could also impact the value of new cars in the future. Jaguar's announcement of an all-electric or hybrid range from 2020 is a notable trend, but it remains to be seen which automaker will make electric cars affordable and accessible to the masses. Nissan's new Leaf, with a quoted range of 235 miles, is a potential contender, but its affordability is a significant factor. Ultimately, the future of car financing depends on various factors, including the advancement of technology, consumer preferences, and the financial implications for both buyers and car companies.

    • EV range estimates vs real-world drivingReal-world EV range can be less than manufacturer estimates due to factors like weather, driving style, and battery degradation. Most people only need a 200-mile range for daily driving.

      Electric vehicle (EV) range estimates provided by manufacturers often exceed the real-world range due to outdated testing methods and driving conditions. Real-world driving factors like weather, driving style, and battery degradation significantly impact EV range. For most people, a 200-mile range EV is sufficient for their daily needs. However, the infrastructure for charging EVs is not yet fully developed, and significant improvements are needed before mass EV adoption becomes feasible. Dyson, known for its vacuum cleaners and hand dryers, is reportedly considering entering the EV market, but it remains to be seen when or if this will come to fruition.

    • Expanding Electric Car Industry and Advancements in TechnologyThe electric car industry is growing with simpler manufacturing processes and potential cost savings, while advancements in technology like removable batteries are addressing concerns around charging infrastructure and theft, making it accessible for smaller companies to enter the market.

      The electric car industry is expanding, with companies like Dyson exploring the market, and the simplicity and potential cost savings of manufacturing electric vehicles may be making it an accessible business for more companies. Additionally, advancements in electric vehicle technology, and specifically the removable battery concept, are addressing concerns around charging infrastructure and theft. The Super Socko electric motorbike, for instance, features a removable battery that can be easily charged and transported, offering a convenient solution for those with limited charging options at home or work. This could lead to a revival of smaller companies entering the automotive industry, as the barriers to entry for electric vehicles may be lower than those for traditional petrol or diesel cars.

    • Issues with electric vehicles: long charging time, noise, and lack of charging pointsElectric vehicles face challenges with long charging times, noise, and limited charging points, leading to inconvenience and higher costs. Some suggest battery replacement at filling stations, while others consider solar panels and batteries for energy independence.

      The issue with electric vehicles, particularly scooters, is the long charging time and the noise it produces. A listener shared his experience of a noisy battery charger that disturbed the office. The charging time for a full charge is around 8 hours, but he managed to charge it faster by charging it every night. However, the slow speed of the scooter was a concern, with some suggesting buying an electric supplemented push bike instead. Another issue is the lack of charging points in urban areas, making it inconvenient to charge the battery. There have been suggestions to make battery replacement at filling stations more convenient, similar to filling up a car with petrol. However, the logistics of providing and charging a large number of batteries, and the differences in battery types among car manufacturers, make this a challenging solution. Amid rising energy bills, the idea of creating and storing one's own energy through solar panels and batteries has gained popularity. IKEA claims its system could save consumers 70% on their energy bills, but the upfront cost is significant, starting at £3,000 for the battery alone. The question remains whether the investment is worth it and how long it takes to recoup the costs.

    • Save on electricity bills with solar energy systems and battery storageSolar energy systems with battery storage can save an average of £540 per year on electricity bills and make households less reliant on the national grid, but the initial investment may take time to recoup.

      Solar energy systems with battery storage, as offered by IKEA, can significantly reduce electricity bills and make households less reliant on the national grid. The system, which includes solar panels and a battery pack, can save an average of £540 per year, as Darren Widowson from Northamptonshire has experienced, paying just £4.50 per month for his electricity and electric car. However, the initial investment of £7,000 may take some time to recoup, and those considering the system should consider their long-term plans, as solar panels and battery storage may not be ideal for those planning to move soon. On the other hand, the Airy couple learned a hard lesson when they attempted to boost their state pension by making voluntary National Insurance Contributions, only to find out that the payments made before April 2016 did not qualify for the new full state pension. Despite the mistake, HMRC refused to return the £7,000 they had paid, leaving the couple out of pocket and requiring the intervention of a journalist to recover their funds.

    • Maintaining Trust in Transactions and InteractionsOrganizations and individuals must build trust through fairness and transparency, addressing issues promptly to maintain social contract and duty of paying taxes or avoiding disputes and conflicts in various industries.

      Trust is crucial in any transaction or interaction, especially with organizations like HMRC or businesses. In the discussed case, individuals were mistakenly charged by HMRC and were denied refunds due to technicalities. After intervention, HMRC agreed to repay the money as a goodwill gesture. However, this scenario highlights the importance of trust and common sense in such situations. The lack of trust in HMRC, due to past high-profile issues and perceived unfairness towards individuals, adds to the problem. Organizations and individuals must strive to build trust, ensuring fairness and transparency in their dealings. Trust is essential to maintain a healthy social contract and duty of paying taxes, avoiding unnecessary disputes and conflicts. Similarly, in the motoring industry, trust is a significant issue, with numerous instances of consumers feeling they have been unfairly treated by car companies. It is crucial to address these issues promptly and transparently to maintain trust and confidence in these organizations.

    • The Importance of Trust and Consistent Performance in BusinessRenowned investor Neil Woodford faced criticism for poor performance in his new fund due to losses from investing in smaller companies with clinical trial failures and scandals, reminding us that even successful investors can experience setbacks and trust must be earned and maintained through transparency and consistent performance.

      Trust is a valuable commodity in business, and when it's broken, it can have serious consequences. Neil Woodford, a renowned British fund manager, has faced criticism for poor performance in his new fund, which has underperformed in recent months despite previously outperforming the market. Woodford, who is known for his expertise in income investing, has invested in a number of smaller companies, including medical technology and university spin-outs, as well as Provident Financial and AstraZeneca. However, the failure of clinical trials and scandals at these companies have led to significant losses for his fund. Despite his past successes, Woodford has been open about the risks involved in investing and the importance of a diversified portfolio. The recent losses serve as a reminder that even the most successful investors can experience setbacks, and that trust must be earned and maintained through transparency and consistent performance.

    • Neil Woodford's past performance doesn't define his future successInvestors should consider all factors when evaluating a fund manager's abilities, not just past performance.

      Past performance is not a definitive indicator of future success for a fund manager, such as Neil Woodford. While he has had a long-term track record of making good investments, recent performance has been disappointing. However, this does not automatically make him a bad fund manager. Instead, investors should consider all factors that made them believe in his abilities and take into context the current situation. Changing the name of a property, like a house, can be done but involves a rigmarole of procedures. While it could potentially add value, it is not a guarantee, and the real value lies in the property itself and its desirable features. In the case of Neil Woodford, the focus should be on his investment strategy and whether it is still a sound one.

    • Clear communication prevents misunderstandingsBe clear and precise in language to avoid ambiguities, stay informed about latest news, and trust reputable platforms.

      Clarity and specificity in communication can help avoid misunderstandings. In the discussion, there was a confusion about the term used to describe the place of residence of one of the speakers. While he referred to it as a "flat," others assumed it was a "block" due to its American context. To resolve this, the speaker suggested labeling one's apartment with a distinct name to avoid such ambiguities. This anecdote highlights the importance of being clear and precise in our language to prevent misunderstandings and ensure effective communication. It's always a good idea to clarify any potential sources of confusion to avoid unnecessary debates or arguments. Additionally, the discussion also touched upon the importance of staying informed about the latest news and trends. The speakers encouraged listeners to keep up-to-date with the latest money news by visiting This is Money's website, following them on Twitter, or downloading their app. Lastly, the partnership with NS and I, G was mentioned, emphasizing the security and trustworthiness of the platform. So, in summary, clear communication, staying informed, and trusting platforms are key takeaways from this discussion.

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