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    Ben Shapiro: “Israel’s War is a Just War”

    enMay 29, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Right to defend citizensDespite political unrest and debates on Israel's actions, initiatives like Rolston College's summer Latin program offer immersive learning experiences. Israel's right to defend its citizens against terrorist attacks is a fundamental principle, and military conduct during conflicts has been just, leaving Hamas in power is not a viable solution, and justifying terrorist assaults is unacceptable.

      Despite the tumultuous state of higher education, with frequent stories of political activism and unrest, there are initiatives like Rolston College's summer Latin program that aim to provide immersive learning experiences for anyone in the world, regardless of their background. Another key topic discussed was the complex situation in Israel and Gaza, where the justification for Israel's actions during times of conflict is a subject of debate. Israel's right to defend its citizens against terrorist attacks is a fundamental principle, and the conduct of its military during such conflicts, such as the one in October 2000, has been unprecedentedly just by all available data. The alternative to Israel's actions, leaving Hamas in power, is not a viable solution. The history of the conflict in the region is complex, but the fundamental question remains: does a country have the right to defend its citizens in the face of a terrorist assault? Anyone who justifies such an assault is promoting an unacceptable perspective.

    • Israeli-Palestinian conflictUnderstanding historical context is important but current situation requires action to protect lives and prevent use of civilians as human shields. Address perverse incentive structure and minimize civilian casualties in pursuit of peace.

      The complex history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict does not excuse acts of violence and terrorism against innocent civilians. While it's important to understand the historical context, the current situation requires action to protect lives and prevent the use of civilians as human shields. The perverse incentive structure created by hiding among civilians must be addressed, and the short attention span of the Western public poses challenges for maintaining a clean and meticulous approach to conflict resolution. Ultimately, the goal should be to minimize civilian casualties and work towards a peaceful resolution.

    • Israel-Hamas conflict causesDeeply rooted in history and religion, military action alone can't bring a permanent solution, addressing root causes through diplomacy, economic development, and education may lead to a more peaceful resolution

      The conflict between Israel and Hamas in Gaza is deeply rooted in history and religion, and it's unlikely that military action alone can bring a permanent solution. The hatred and desire to extirpate Israel have been present for decades, and the failure of previous attempts at peace can be attributed to security failures rather than curing the hatred in people's hearts. Israel's PR image has also been negatively impacted, particularly in the Western world. The recent protests against Israel are not just about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict but also about decolonialization, the evils of the West, and systemic racism. The argument against Israel being an exploiter stems from a left-wing anti-system perspective, and the perception that Israel's success comes at the expense of the Palestinians. Ultimately, a more durable outcome may be Israeli military rule and Palestinian civil control, but this does not mean more violence or October 7th-like events. Instead, addressing the root causes of the conflict through diplomacy, economic development, and education may lead to a more peaceful resolution.

    • System and societal dynamicsThe system in place and historical context significantly impact a country's societal dynamics and the tensions that arise among different groups, not its natural resources.

      A country's natural resources do not determine its economic or societal success. Instead, the system in place plays a significant role. The example of West and East Germany illustrates this point. However, the suffering of certain groups, like Jews, can lead to antisemitism due to their disproportionate success in various areas, which can create resentment. The current economic uncertainty and the perceived recession of Western power have led to an increase in isolationist sentiment on both the left and right, which can result in internal stressors and distrust among different groups. It's important to remember that historical examples, such as the Vietnam War, show that interventions can have complex consequences, and it's crucial to consider the motivations behind them. In summary, the system and historical context play essential roles in shaping a country's societal dynamics and the tensions that arise among different groups.

    • International order and conflictsThe withdrawal of dominant powers from international conflicts or areas of influence can have severe consequences, and it's crucial to maintain moral clarity between opposing sides to prevent genocidal terror groups from operating unchecked.

      The world is not inherently better off when Western powers, including the United States, withdraw from international conflicts or areas of influence. The international order lacks a true structure, and when dominant powers act negatively, the consequences can be severe. The discussion also touched upon the criticism faced by Ben Shapiro and The Daily Wire for their focus on Israel, with Ben admitting his personal connection to the issue due to its historical and religious significance. Despite having hosts with differing perspectives on Israel, Ben believes it's crucial to find moral clarity between the Israeli government and Hamas, given the risks involved for both sides. The ongoing conflict raises concerns about the moral compass of the West and the potential danger of allowing genocidal terror groups to operate unchecked.

    • Israel-West relations, mass protestsThe complex Israel-West relations involve various issues and motivations, including mass protests and solidarity with terrorist groups, which pose a problem for the Western world. Understanding the nuances and motivations behind the actions of various parties is crucial to finding a peaceful resolution.

      The current global situation regarding Israel and the West is complex, with different issues and motivations at play. While Israel's actions and self-interest are a concern for some, the larger issue lies in the mass protests and solidarity with terrorist groups, which poses a problem for the Western world. The protests are driven by a broader worldview and are part of a larger trend of mass protests on various issues. However, the situation has become more complicated with attacks on those speaking against these protests coming from various quarters, including the right. This can be attributed to an isolationist sentiment and a belief that certain groups are being left behind by the powerful forces in control. The expanding definition of cancel culture and political correctness on the left has led to a reaction on the right, with some embracing controversial views to challenge the left's sense of propriety. Ultimately, it's essential to understand the nuances of the situation and the motivations behind the actions of various parties to find a peaceful resolution.

    • Cultural value of transgressionThe lack of criticism towards transgressive statements doesn't guarantee their value or truth, and it's crucial to distinguish between genuine transgression and reckless disregard for facts and evidence.

      The lack of criticism or backlash towards a statement does not necessarily indicate its value or truth. Instead, people seem to place a premium on transgressive or provocative statements, leading to a culture where asking questions without providing evidence or making absurd claims is seen as virtuous. This phenomenon, fueled by the feeling of being denigrated against, particularly among men, has contributed to the rise of figures like Andrew Tate. However, it's crucial to distinguish between genuine transgression that challenges established systems and the reckless disregard for facts and evidence. To avoid throwing the baby out with the bathwater, it's essential to engage in thoughtful, evidence-based discourse and avoid the trap of valuing transgression for its own sake.

    • Young Men and MasculinityYoung men need to connect with real-life communities and institutions to develop strong personal values and relationships, rather than relying on toxic online communities or transgressive behavior for validation.

      Being a man is about taking responsibility and committing to one's values and relationships, rather than seeking validation through toxic online communities or transgressive behavior. The problem is that young men today, who have grown up with the internet as their primary source of information and community, may not have a clear understanding of these values. The solution is not just to disconnect from technology, but to integrate into real-life institutions and communities that can provide a strong foundation for personal growth and development. Unfortunately, the current dating culture and broken institutions make it difficult for men to find meaningful relationships and purpose. Ultimately, it's essential to recognize that online communities are not a substitute for real-life relationships and institutions, and that true masculinity comes from living a values-driven life.

    • Decline of traditional institutionsThe decline of traditional institutions is leaving a societal void, leading to a breakdown of communities and values. The solution is for individuals to commit to communities and institutions, even before fully believing, to foster virtues and community-mindedness.

      The decline of traditional institutions, such as religion, is leaving a void in society, leading to a breakdown of communities and values. This issue is not being addressed as society focuses on symptoms rather than the root cause. The solution, according to the guest, is for individuals to commit to communities and institutions, even before fully believing in them, as engaging in such commitments can shape and make one more virtuous and community-minded. The guest also suggested that Trump could have been managed better in the lead up to the election by isolating him from social media and providing him with a fake app that reinforced positive feedback. The guest emphasized the importance of investigating and reforming the roots of civilization and its institutions to prevent societal dissolution.

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