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    Beyond the CVs, how to listen for the breakthroughs in bioscience.

    enMay 04, 2023
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    About this Episode

    Imagine the cost of not listening in your workplace is someone's life, improving the quality of their life, extending their life.


    This is the life-changing work that is the focus of B Corp certified life sciences recruitment and search consultancy - RBW Consulting spanning Boston, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, North Carolina, and San Diego.

    Their work covers everything from computational biology, product development, engineering, regulatory affairs, and everything in between, across pharmaceutical and life sciences industries.


    Continuing with our behind-the-scenes season of speaking to people who are using Deep Listening, we listen to Emma and Michelle about their focus on Human Intelligence.


    First, a little backstory and a shout-out to Stuart from Stirred Health who reached out to me in September of 2021 with this message.

    "Hi, Oscar. I'm interested in discussing a collaboration/partnership on behalf of our client. We are keen to hear more about how Deep Listening could help us out and our client. I'm based in the UK."


    I was then introduced to their chief commercial officer, Emma and their learning and development director Michelle.


    What I love about working with RBW is the ripple effect of doing one thing consistently well.

    We discussed this very thoroughly in the co-design process, which was ultimately foundational into integrating Deep Listening into their Human Intelligence strategy.

    What you'll hear next is a discussion between Emma, Michelle, and myself about the impact of listening in the life sciences.

    Listen out for the story about 

    • how to consistently shorten meetings and build rapport
    • how to listen beyond the CV
    • the importance of the productive question rather than any question
    • the question every candidate should be asking during an interview

     

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