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    Britain Adrift Interview:  Xavier Rolet On Debt Versus Equity

    enJune 11, 2023

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    • US vs Europe: Different Funding ApproachesThe US economy is primarily funded by capital markets, leading to a focus on equity growth, while Europe's economy relies on bank lending, prioritizing debt and protection. These differences in funding and regulatory policies have long-term implications for business success and innovation.

      The approach to funding economies plays a significant role in shaping the business landscape and financial outcomes. According to the discussion, the United States, with a smaller population and a larger GDP than Europe, has an economy primarily funded by capital markets, while Europe's economy is mostly funded by bank lending. This difference in funding environments leads to distinct cultural approaches, with the US focusing on equity growth and the UK and Europe prioritizing debt and protection. This disparity in funding and regulatory policies has long-term implications for business success and innovation. For instance, businesses in the US may have more opportunities to make their money work harder due to the emphasis on equities and capital markets. However, the conversation suggests that a reevaluation and potential reform of these policies may be necessary for both regions to thrive in the modern economy.

    • UK and Europe's struggle to scale up tech industries due to shallow equity marketsPolicy makers' preference to control capital distribution hinders investors' decision making, eroding the UK's financial leadership and impacting tech industry growth in Europe

      The UK and Europe's inability to scale up innovative industries, particularly tech, is due to a lack of deeper equity markets. This issue is compounded by the fact that policy makers in the UK and Europe prefer to control the distribution of capital to the corporate sector, making it difficult for investors to decide which technology will be scaled up. This is a significant concern for the UK, which has historically been a global financial leader, but is now seeing some of that leadership being lost. The UK's financial hub in London was instrumental in building the global compression engine through the interest rate swap, clearing at the London Clearing House. However, as some of these advantages are being eroded, those involved in securing this position are speaking out. For instance, a proposed 50 billion pound fund for investment aims to push pension fund investment cash towards growth businesses. This issue is not a political one, but a technical one, and it's crucial that policy makers address it to ensure the continued growth and competitiveness of the tech industry in the UK and Europe.

    • Europe's reliance on government-driven solutions hinders equity markets' full powerEurope needs to encourage private investment and recognize the role of equity markets in funding future growth, as they play a crucial part in backing both big tech and startups, while addressing risks and unintended consequences.

      While Europe has the capital, great technologies, and entrepreneurial spirit, the full power of equity markets is not being unleashed due to a reliance on government-driven solutions. Equity markets, made up of private investors, institutional investors, pension funds, and insurance companies, play a crucial role in funding future growth. It's essential to recognize the challenges faced by individuals and businesses every day and understand that the next phase of AI adoption will involve both big tech and startups, with risks and unintended consequences that need to be addressed. To gain further insights on this topic, join Emily Chang at Bloomberg Tech in San Francisco on May 9th, where she will be discussing these issues with industry leaders.

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