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Bitcoin's Volatility is Natural and Expected: Experts believe Bitcoin's recent market correction, resulting in a $500B loss, is normal. High volatility can lead to high returns, and investors should not fear it. Bitcoin's volatility may shape central banking policy as it grows.
Despite Bitcoin's massive market cap and the significant price drops it experiences, it's important to remember that volatility is a natural part of the market. Adam Back and Plan B, two experts in the field, believe that the recent market correction, which resulted in a loss of $500 billion, is just another normal occurrence in the Bitcoin market. They emphasized that high volatility comes with the potential for high returns, and investors should not be afraid of it. As Bitcoin continues to grow and potentially rival assets like gold, its volatility may even drive central banking policy. So, even as the market cap increases, investors can expect to see continued aggressive volatility in the Bitcoin market.
Bitcoin's volatility could impact other markets and investors: Historical data shows that holding Bitcoin through market downturns can lead to long-term gains, but its high volatility makes it a risky investment for less risk-tolerant individuals, potentially leading to market changes
As Bitcoin's market cap grows and becomes a larger player in the financial world, the volatility of the cryptocurrency could potentially have significant impacts on other markets and market participants. Central banks may not intervene to stabilize Bitcoin like they do with traditional markets, leading to increased risk for those holding Bitcoin. Historical data suggests that holding through market downturns can yield long-term gains, as 86% of Bitcoin holders during the 2017-2018 price drop did not sell. However, the high volatility of Bitcoin makes it a risky investment for those who cannot handle it, leading to potential evolutionary changes in the market as less risk-tolerant investors exit.
Bitcoin's price volatility driven by holders' conviction and leverage trading: Successful Bitcoin investment requires increasing coins held without increasing risk, as holders with deep conviction don't sell during price drops, while leverage trading amplifies losses during market downturns.
Bitcoin's price volatility is driven in part by over-leveraging and the conviction of long-term holders. The holders with deep conviction, who have large stakes in Bitcoin, don't sell even during significant price drops. These holders make up a significant percentage of the total coins in circulation. Leverage trading can be dangerous, as it can amplify losses during market downturns. The key to successful Bitcoin investment is to increase the number of coins held without increasing risk. The holders with vision and great conviction are the ones to look for in the Bitcoin market. Those who cannot handle the volatility should consider staying away from Bitcoin investment.
Managing Bitcoin Volatility with a Long-Term Vision: New investors susceptible to market swings should adopt a dollar-cost averaging strategy and maintain a long-term vision for Bitcoin investments to mitigate losses and potentially gain significant rewards.
During periods of high volatility in Bitcoin, such as the drops seen in the last few months, new investors who are not prepared for the market's ups and downs are more likely to sell at a loss. These weak holders, who may lack a long-term vision for Bitcoin, are more susceptible to emotional reactions to market swings. The speaker recommends a dollar-cost averaging strategy, where investors gradually buy Bitcoin over time, to mitigate the impact of volatility on smaller positions. Additionally, having a clear vision and strategic analysis for why one wants to invest in Bitcoin, and acquiring a position regardless of the price, can help investors ride out market fluctuations and potentially reap significant rewards in the long term.
Connecting with like-minded investors for learning and growth: Joining a supportive community like TIP Mastermind can enhance your investing journey with valuable resources, ideas, and relationships. Stay informed with market news and trends using tools like Yahoo Finance, and be aware of derivatives market risks and impacts.
Investing can be a lonely and challenging journey, but having a supportive community can significantly enhance the learning process and portfolio returns. This is why the TIP Mastermind community was launched, providing a platform for passionate value investors to connect, share ideas, and build lifelong relationships. With weekly live Zoom calls, access to special podcast guests, and in-person events, the TIP Mastermind community offers valuable resources and opportunities for growth. Another important aspect of investing is staying informed with the latest market news and trends. Yahoo Finance serves as a reliable tool for keeping up with top news and analysis, offering features such as customized charts, linked investment accounts, and independent research. By staying informed, investors can make more informed decisions and adapt to market changes. Lastly, it's essential to understand the derivatives market and its impact on asset prices. Derivatives markets allow for risk division and leverage, but they also come with risks. As seen in recent events, even those with bullish opinions on Bitcoin's price can contribute to significant sell-offs through derivatives trading. It's crucial to be aware of these dynamics and the potential consequences of market movements.
Bitcoin Futures Open Interest Drops $9 Trillion Since May: Forced sellers and panic sellers contributed to the $9 trillion decrease in Bitcoin futures open interest. Option sellers and calculated bettors find opportunities in the derivatives market's return of volatility. Understanding risks, particularly leverage, is essential for market participants.
The Bitcoin market, currently experiencing low prices, has seen a significant decrease in open interest for futures contracts, with around $9 trillion evaporating since May. This decrease can be attributed to both forced sellers, those who were liquidated due to market volatility and the use of excessive leverage, and panic sellers, those who chose to sell to protect their dollar value. However, the derivatives market, driven by option sellers and calculated bettors, continues to offer attractive opportunities due to the return of volatility. It's crucial for participants to understand the risks involved, particularly when using high levels of leverage. The market's volatility can lead to massive gains or losses, with the strongest hands ultimately benefiting from the market's ferocious capitalistic nature.
Bitcoin's derivatives market and perpetual futures contracts impact price action: Perpetual futures contracts in Bitcoin's derivatives market enable stable yield collection, but their quadratic risk can lead to significant losses during price movements. The market's maturity during this bull run has led to more stable price action, but potential for large losses remains.
The derivatives market in Bitcoin, specifically the use of perpetual futures contracts, plays a significant role in the price action and volatility of Bitcoin. These contracts, unique to the crypto economy, allow for immediate clearing and enable long-short positions, providing a stable way for market participants to collect yield. However, the use of these contracts can lead to large losses due to the quadratic risk involved, especially during significant price movements. The market's maturity during this current bull run compared to the last one has led to more stable price action, but the potential for large losses remains. The educational value of these market experiences, although painful for some, will likely lead to more informed decision-making and risk management in the future.
Less volume and transactions indicate potential for bigger price jump: On-chain data suggests current market may not be in full bull mode yet, with less volume and transactions compared to past bull markets. However, smaller, less leveraged bets by professionals and news flow could still drive significant price increases.
The current cryptocurrency market may not be in the upper part of the bull market yet based on on-chain data analysis. The data shows that there is less volume and transactions compared to previous bull markets, and there have been more coins sold at a loss this month than in 2017 or 2013. This could indicate that the biggest price jump is still to come, as it did in the 2013 bull market where there was a significant increase from a low of $62 to a high of over $1,000. However, professional traders may be making smaller, less leveraged bets and looking at news flow to make predictions. The derivatives markets may not have significantly changed the price dynamics, as large price swings were also present in earlier bull markets. The on-chain data space is growing, and it's an interesting area to watch for insights into the market.
Skepticism about Bitcoin's $60,000 peak and potential prolonged bear market: Despite Bitcoin's $60,000 peak, the speaker believes we might be in a prolonged bear market, comparing it to the 2013-2015 scenario. He is optimistic about institutional investors' role but uncertain about their behavior.
The speaker expresses skepticism about the recent peak in Bitcoin price at $60,000 and believes we might be in the middle of a prolonged bear market. He compares the current situation to the 2013-2015 scenario and thinks the best is yet to come. He also discusses the lack of market makers or value investors in Bitcoin market due to its net long position and the buying power asymmetry. The speaker is optimistic about the role of institutional investors in the market but remains uncertain about their behavior. He encourages listeners to earn a higher interest rate on their cash through Public.com and uses NerdWallet to make smarter financial decisions.
Bitcoin market influenced by news, investor behavior, and institutional buying: Bitcoin price volatile due to market sentiment and fundamental factors, long-term holders see dips as buying opportunities, institutional buyers enter market despite volatility, important to distinguish accurate info from speculation, complex market structure, long-term investment for many, underlying tech attracts interest and development.
The Bitcoin market is influenced by various factors including news events, investor behavior, and institutional buying. The market can be volatile, with price fluctuations driven by a combination of market sentiment and fundamental factors. The recent dip in Bitcoin price was partly due to Elon Musk's announcement that Tesla would no longer accept Bitcoin payments, but the army of long-term holders saw this as an opportunity to buy more. Institutional buyers, who take a longer-term view, are still entering the market despite the volatility. However, misinformation and confusion can amplify price movements, and it's important to distinguish between accurate information and speculation. The market structure is complex, and it takes time for institutions to enter the market due to regulatory and legal considerations. Despite the short-term volatility, Bitcoin is seen as a long-term investment by many, and the underlying technology continues to attract interest and development.
Institutional investors buying Bitcoin in small quantities over the long term: Institutional investors buy Bitcoin without market influence, in small quantities, and leverage price dips for profit.
Institutional investors are buying large amounts of Bitcoin over the long term, despite its high volatility. They execute their decisions without being influenced by market news or FUD, and they buy in small quantities over extended periods to avoid moving the price. Institutional selling, on the other hand, often occurs in illiquid hours, driving the price down, only to be bought back up within a few weeks. This pattern has been evident since January and is considered bullish for the cryptocurrency market. Institutional investors do not need to offset their selling by buying derivatives; they simply buy spot Bitcoin in small amounts. They leverage the lack of liquidity to their advantage, pushing down the price in the short term and then buying the dips in more liquid hours. This strategy involves creating FUD in the market to buy Bitcoin at lower prices. This is not a conspiracy theory but an observed pattern in the market.
Mining Rigs Leaving China, But Hash Rate Remains Significant: Despite regulatory uncertainty driving some miners out of China, its hash rate remains significant. Institutional investors are increasingly considering jurisdictional risks and regulatory stability when making mining decisions, leading to growth in hash rate outside of China.
There's ongoing speculation about mining rigs leaving China due to regulatory uncertainty, but hash rate continues to be significant there. Some miners are looking to move equipment to countries like North America and Europe due to concerns about geopolitical risks and regulatory stability. Institutional investors are becoming more sophisticated, considering factors beyond just the cost of electricity when making mining decisions. This trend towards safer jurisdictions has led to a growth in hash rate outside of China. While some miners may be planning to relocate, the process is capital-intensive and time-consuming, so it won't happen instantly. Ultimately, Bitcoin's decentralized nature allows it to adapt to changing conditions, and the difficulty will adjust to maintain the network's security.
Bitcoin's Energy Consumption: Misunderstood Facts: Bitcoin tends to use renewable energy due to its location independence and mining industry's preference for cheaper power sources. It also helps fund green infrastructure development and provides a steady baseload demand, making it an essential part of project financing.
Bitcoin's energy consumption is often misunderstood. Contrary to popular belief, Bitcoin tends to use renewable energy due to its location independence and the mining industry's preference for cheaper power sources. Additionally, Bitcoin mining can help fund the development of green infrastructure by providing a steady baseload demand that can be turned off on demand, making it an essential part of project financing. Furthermore, civilization's development is largely driven by energy, and the future likely involves more infrastructure to harness and utilize various energy sources efficiently. The misconceptions surrounding Bitcoin's energy usage often overlook these facts, leading to inaccurate assessments of its environmental impact.
The Importance of Proof of Work in Bitcoin's Decentralized Network: Proof of work is crucial for maintaining Bitcoin's decentralization and security, and its economic benefits prevent political favoritism and resource misallocation.
The debate surrounding proof of work versus proof of stake in the context of cryptocurrency, particularly Bitcoin, is an important discussion that goes beyond just technical considerations. From an investor's perspective, proof of work is an essential component of Bitcoin's decentralized network, serving as a method for nodes to validate transactions and add them to the blockchain without relying on a central authority. Proof of stake, on the other hand, requires additional information from validators to determine the validity of a block. The speaker argues that the proof of work mechanism is crucial for maintaining the decentralization and security of Bitcoin, and without it, building a peer-to-peer blockchain would not be possible. Additionally, there is an economic argument for proof of work, as the cost of production helps prevent political favoritism and the misallocation of resources through corruption and lobbying. The ongoing discussion around energy consumption and the use of proof of work in Bitcoin is a complex issue, but it's essential to understand the underlying importance of this mechanism in maintaining the decentralized and secure nature of the network.
Bitcoin's value and economic activities: Bitcoin's value influences mining costs and resource allocation, its supply curve is unique due to mining, and it promotes savings culture and potential energy savings through the Lightning Network.
Bitcoin's value and the economic activities surrounding it, such as mining, are interconnected. The value of Bitcoin influences the amount of resources people are willing to spend to acquire more, and the energy consumption for mining is a significant cost. The predictability of Bitcoin's supply curve is different from traditional fiat currencies or gold due to its mining process and the decreasing number of new coins. Bitcoin also encourages a savings culture and may lead to less consumption and waste. The Lightning Network, a layer 2 solution for Bitcoin transactions, could potentially provide a proof-of-stake-like system with energy savings without the associated setbacks. Overall, Bitcoin's value, production, and consumption are intertwined, making it a unique monetary system.
Understanding Bitcoin transaction costs: The cost of Bitcoin transactions is complex and influenced by factors like new coin creation, layer two solutions, and network congestion.
The cost of Bitcoin transactions is not as simple as it seems. While the media often sensationalizes the high cost of transactions on the Bitcoin network, the reality is more complex. The current architect at PayPal explained that the difference between networking and payment networks applies to Bitcoin as well. Transactions on the Bitcoin network result in new coins being created, but layers on top of the network, like Lightning and Liquids, allow for more efficient and trustless transactions. The cost of transactions on the Bitcoin network is not the only metric to consider, as empty blocks and layer two solutions significantly impact the network's overall throughput. The level of understanding required to evaluate Bitcoin's scalability and energy usage is more complex than some articles suggest, and it's important to consider the technical advancements being made on top of the network. The frustration comes from the lack of technical understanding in some criticisms, which overlook the fundamental advantages of the Bitcoin main chain and the potential of layer two solutions.
Discussion on Lightning adoption and its suitability for micro transactions: As Bitcoin fees rise, Lightning adoption increases for micro transactions due to its speed, scalability, and low fees. However, different protocols may emerge for various use cases, and trade-offs like lower security must be considered.
The adoption of Lightning as a layer 2 solution for Bitcoin transactions will likely increase as the price of Bitcoin rises and fees become prohibitively expensive for small transactions. This was discussed in relation to Fold, a company that owes Bitcoin rewards to users, and the significant fees associated with settling these rewards on-chain. However, it was also pointed out that different protocols may emerge for different use cases, and Lightning is particularly well-suited for retail and micro payments due to its speed, scalability, and low fees. The user experience of using a Lightning wallet like Aqua is similar to Bitcoin, with the added benefit of faster transactions and the ability to hold various assets, including stablecoins. However, it's important to note that there are trade-offs, such as a lower level of security compared to cold storage on the main chain. To acquire these assets, users would need to go through an exchange, and there are other wallets like SiteSwap that offer on-app swaps. Overall, while Lightning adoption may not be at its peak yet, it's expected to grow as technology improves and more use cases emerge.
App for Trustless Bitcoin Swaps: SideSwap's app enables trustless Bitcoin swaps between main chain and liquid Bitcoin, streamlining the trading experience, and allowing users to act as providers.
SideSwap Limited, a company based in the UK, has developed a smartphone app for both Android and iOS devices that enables users to swap main chain Bitcoin for liquid Bitcoin, and vice versa, in a trustless manner. This process, which is similar to atomic swaps, has gained significant attention due to its potential to streamline the cryptocurrency trading experience. The app, which acts as a middleman at present, also allows users to place orders and become providers themselves, presenting the possibility of a nicer user experience with one app handling both transactions. For more information, you can follow Adam Back on Twitter @adam3us, Blockstream-related products at @blockstream, and PlanB at @100trillionUSD or visit planbtc.com. Don't forget to subscribe to the show, leave a review, and visit theinvestorspodcast.com for show notes, courses, and forums. This podcast is for entertainment purposes only, and it is essential to consult a professional before making any decisions. The Investors Podcast Network holds the copyright for this show.
