Logo

    Buying a Home with Friends...Brilliant Move or Disaster?

    enJuly 24, 2024
    What motivates young people to buy homes with friends?
    How does co-buying address loneliness and economic instability?
    What legal challenges exist for unrelated adults living together?
    How can women benefit from alternative homeownership models?
    What should agreements include for shared homeownership arrangements?

    Podcast Summary

    • Young adults buying homes with friendsYoung adults are buying homes with friends as a response to affordability crisis and cultural stigma, offering community and shared financial burdens but also highlighting deeper issues of loneliness and economic instability

      The trend of young people buying homes with friends is a response to both the affordability crisis and the cultural stigma surrounding non-romantic adult cohabitation. While this creative living solution offers a sense of community and shared financial burdens, it also underscores the deeper issues of loneliness and economic instability that have become increasingly prevalent in today's society. The conversation around this topic invites us to reconsider our assumptions about living arrangements and question the limitations of individualism in addressing these pressing issues. Ultimately, it highlights the need for systemic solutions to address housing affordability and combat the growing epidemic of loneliness.

    • Co-purchasing homes with friendsYoung Americans are co-purchasing homes with friends to reduce living costs and build financial stability, but it's important to consider long-term financial implications and potential legal restrictions.

      Some young Americans are choosing to co-purchase homes with non-romantic partners to reduce living costs and build financial stability. This trend, which is becoming more common, allows friends to pool resources and enter the housing market despite difficulty doing so with a single income. However, it's important to consider the long-term financial implications, as buying a home can take decades to become a net positive investment due to high transaction costs, borrowing costs, and other associated expenses. Additionally, some people view homeownership as a means to achieve a certain lifestyle and live in a community with peers. Despite these benefits, it's worth noting that in some places, it's still illegal for unrelated adults to live together. Overall, this trend highlights the importance of considering both financial and lifestyle factors when making housing decisions.

    • Buying a home with unmarried partnerClear agreement and exit strategy are crucial when buying a home with an unmarried partner to avoid potential complications and unexpected expenses

      Cohabitating adults who are unmarried and unromantically involved may face unique challenges when it comes to homeownership. Contracts for such situations often include clauses about property management and exit strategies. Shannon, a listener, shared her experience of buying a condo with a friend in 2006, which turned out to be a significant mistake. They financed it together, split everything equally, and lived in it until one of them moved out of state. However, they faced challenges when making decisions about the property, such as refinancing or selling it. They eventually sold the condo in 2021, after years of disagreements and unexpected expenses. The lesson here is that while buying a home with a friend or unmarried partner may seem like a good idea to save money, it's essential to consider the potential complications and the importance of having a clear agreement and exit strategy.

    • Buying with a friendBuying a property with a friend can lead to financial and personal challenges, including disagreements, involvement of family members, and the inability to sell or evict a co-owner. Careful consideration and open communication are crucial to mitigate potential risks.

      Buying a property with a friend can be a risky endeavor, potentially leading to financial and personal challenges. The speakers in this discussion shared experiences of disagreements, involvement of family members, and the inability to sell or evict a co-owner. These issues can significantly impact the friendship and result in financial strain. While some experts suggest only buying something that could be serviced on a loan for a few months in case of conflicts or job loss, it's important to note that buying alone or with a romantic partner also comes with its own risks. The legal framework and formalities of a marriage, such as divorce proceedings and arbitration, can help navigate disputes and make the process more manageable. Overall, buying a property with a friend requires careful consideration and open communication to mitigate potential risks.

    • Single women homeownership trendsSingle women's increasing homeownership without marriage or romantic relationships has led to alternative homeownership models like co-buying and house hacking, requiring formal, written agreements and appropriate ownership arrangements to mitigate risks.

      The trend of single women buying homes without being married or in a romantic relationship is on the rise due to historical changes in median ages for first marriage and first-time home buying. This newfound freedom and ability for women to own property independently has led to alternative homeownership models such as co-buying and house hacking, where the financial and legal risks are shared equally among friends. It's essential for those considering these options to have a formal, written agreement in place, outlining terms for various scenarios, and to choose the appropriate ownership arrangement, such as joint tenancy or tenancy in common. A well-crafted agreement can help ensure a smooth homeownership experience for all parties involved.

    • Co-buying with friends/familyClear communication, legal agreement, and exit strategies are crucial for successful co-buying experiences with friends or family, as shown in the stories of both those still living together and those who have had positive exit experiences

      Co-buying a home with a friend or family member can lead to financial benefits and successful living arrangements, as shown in the stories of the Grant and Lindsay sisters. However, it's important to have clear communication, a solid legal agreement, and a plan for potential exit strategies. The experiences of Cindy and Christine illustrate the potential challenges, such as long conversion processes and unexpected life changes, but ultimately, the positive outcomes outweigh the difficulties for some. While the success stories are often from people still living together or related, those who have had positive exit experiences also report the financial and emotional rewards.

    • House buying and selling partnershipEffective communication and careful planning led to a successful house buying and selling partnership, resulting in significant financial gains despite legal complications and varying mortgage rates

      Careful planning and effective communication were key factors in Christine and her friend's successful experience of buying and selling a house together. When they decided to purchase a property in Austin, they put down 10% as a down payment and both got pre-approved for mortgages. Although Christine's interest rate was slightly higher than her friend's, they both had good credit scores, and they were able to handle the legal documents as both single and married women. However, since Texas is a communal property state, Christine had to get her husband's signature on the paperwork when she sold the house, which felt like a disappointment. Despite this, they managed to make a profit of around $130,000 on the house, which they increased in value through renovations and improvements. The timing of their sale also worked out well due to the pandemic-driven market conditions. Looking back, Christine feels that the experience was a great decision, and they both walked away with significant financial gains.

    • Home buying with significant other/friendBuying a house with a friend or significant other can offer financial benefits and companionship, but may also lead to compromises and difficulties in managing personal space and privacy. The idea of taking your mortgage with you when you move could be a potential solution to the issue of being stuck in homes that no longer fit needs.

      Buying a house with a friend or significant other can come with its own unique challenges. While it may provide financial benefits and companionship during difficult times like a pandemic, it can also lead to compromises and difficulties in managing personal space and privacy. The idea of taking your mortgage with you when you move, as is common in the UK, was highlighted as a potential solution to the issue of people being stuck in homes that no longer fit their needs in the US. Ultimately, the decision to buy a home with someone else is a personal one and requires careful consideration of the potential benefits and drawbacks. The trend of buying homes with friends, while not extensively researched in the context of the current market conditions, may not be as popular as it seems due to the long-term commitments and compromises involved.

    • Housing affordabilityAddressing the root causes of housing affordability issues, such as rising property prices and stagnant wages, could help make homeownership a more attainable goal for a wider range of people.

      The current housing market situation can make it difficult for certain groups, such as young families, to afford homes, leading some to explore unconventional solutions like buying homes with friends. However, it might be more effective to focus on changing the rules of the game rather than just finding new ways to play it. For instance, addressing the root causes of housing affordability issues, such as rising property prices and stagnant wages, could help make homeownership a more attainable goal for a wider range of people. Ultimately, it's important to keep the conversation going and explore innovative solutions while also advocating for systemic change. This week on "Money with Katie," we discussed the challenges faced by some homebuyers in the current market and the creative ways they're responding. We also touched on the idea of money dysmorphia and how it can impact our financial decisions. Our show is produced by Morning Brew, with Henevillez and Katie Gaddy-Tossham as hosts. Nick Torres handles our audio engineering and sound design, and Devin Emery serves as Morning Brew's chief content officer. Kate Grant provides fact-checking support for "Money with Katie." Join us next week for more insightful conversations about money and finance.

    Recent Episodes from The Money with Katie Show

    The Messy Economic Truth that the "Birth Rate Panic" Reveals

    The Messy Economic Truth that the "Birth Rate Panic" Reveals
    Some of you recently shared articles about the so-called “birth rate panic,” pointing out that the intersection of economic policy with people’s decision to have children felt a little…off. So, I decided to dig into the coverage, some of the gaps I see, the cultural scapegoats, and of course, the bigger issue of treating our economy like a global MLM. Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/birth-rates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    The Money with Katie Show
    enAugust 28, 2024

    Single People's Most Impactful Financial Choice (and Understanding the Dual Income Household's Edge)

    Single People's Most Impactful Financial Choice (and Understanding the Dual Income Household's Edge)
    Many of you have asked: “How the heck do I make it work on a single income? What can I possibly do?” We’ll look at the levers you can pull (one in particular) and the context of how we got to this point. Plus, we respond to some of the feedback we received from our recent life insurance episode. Rich Girl Roundup is Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and her Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week. Transcript, show resources, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/single-income Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    The Money with Katie Show
    enAugust 26, 2024

    The Psychology of Overconsumption—and How to Shift Your Mindset for a Richer Life

    The Psychology of Overconsumption—and How to Shift Your Mindset for a Richer Life
    Depending on the source, the average American buys between 1 and 1.3 new pieces of clothing every single week—and consumption is at an all-time high. So, why aren’t we tired of cheap shit yet and how can we better understand our psychological obsessions with spending? Well, we’re diving into it with sustainability expert and author of Consumed, Aja Barber. Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/overconsumption. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    The Money with Katie Show
    enAugust 21, 2024

    How to Build Wealth and Support Family (with Boundaries)—Especially When You're First-Gen

    How to Build Wealth and Support Family (with Boundaries)—Especially When You're First-Gen
    On this week’s special Rich Girl Roundtable with Berna Anat: Traditional financial advice isn’t “one size fits all,” and that’s especially true for first-gen Americans who face unique challenges around building wealth and supporting family. How are the rules different for this demographic, and how can we make conversations around money more inclusive? Rich Girl Roundup is Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and her Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week. Transcript, show resources, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/first-gen-finances. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    The Money with Katie Show
    enAugust 19, 2024

    The Predatory Life Insurance That's a Scam—and the One That's Legit

    The Predatory Life Insurance That's a Scam—and the One That's Legit
    Life insurance is a notoriously scammy industry, made more confusing by the fact that there are legitimate forms of life insurance that aren’t a total waste of money. So which ones are legit, and which ones should you avoid? Reminder: I am not a certified financial professional and this is not financial advice; please do your own due diligence. Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/life-insurance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    The Money with Katie Show
    enAugust 14, 2024

    How to Calculate if You've Already Saved Enough for Retirement—and If It's Time to Slow Down

    How to Calculate if You've Already Saved Enough for Retirement—and If It's Time to Slow Down
    It's possible you might already have enough saved up for retirement, thanks to the power of compounding—a phenomenon in the FIRE community known as Coast FI. We cover how to calculate that number, if it's a reliable safety net, and what else to keep in mind. Rich Girl Roundup is Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and her Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week. Transcript, show resources, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/coast-fi. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
    The Money with Katie Show
    enAugust 12, 2024

    Dealing with Money Dysmorphia: When Perception Isn't Reality

    Dealing with Money Dysmorphia: When Perception Isn't Reality
    A few weeks ago, I asked you all if the concept of "disordered financial behavior" resonated with you—and the response was overwhelming. And while a large faction of millennials and Gen Z deal with money dysmorphia—or as I'm inclined to call it, money disorientation—I'm not sure if the traditional blame on social media is the real cause. So how are we developing money dysmorphia, and how can we learn to deal with it? Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and resources can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/money-dysmorphia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    How Much Should You Budget for Childcare? We Explore All the Options

    How Much Should You Budget for Childcare? We Explore All the Options
    In this week's Rich Girl Roundup, Katie and Henah answer the one prompt they often receive as two childless women: "Please run the numbers on childcare." Tune in to hear them run through the average budget and costs to set aside for various forms of childcare, as well as Katie's impassioned diatribe about the state of care work in the US. Rich Girl Roundup is Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and her Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week. Transcript, show resources, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/childcare. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Buying a Home with Friends...Brilliant Move or Disaster?

    Buying a Home with Friends...Brilliant Move or Disaster?
    Millennials are taking matters into their own hands with the dueling crises of housing unaffordability and loneliness…by buying houses together. Brilliant move or total mess? We’ve got the inside scoop on both outcomes. Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/buying-home-with-friends. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    The Ultimate Formula for Determining Your Financial Priorities

    The Ultimate Formula for Determining Your Financial Priorities
    In this week's Rich Girl Roundup, we answer the age-old question: Should I prioritize putting money towards X or Y? Rich Girl Natalie shares the choice she's grappling with: Pay off a mortgage faster or focus on saving for retirement? We walk through the calculations and considerations to ask yourself to make your money work hardest. Reminder: This is not financial advice; we are not licensed financial professionals. Please do your own due diligence. Rich Girl Roundup is Money with Katie's weekly segment where Katie and her Executive Producer Henah answer your burning money questions. Each month, we'll put out a call for questions on her Instagram (@moneywithkatie). New episodes every week. Transcript, show resources, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/priorities. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices