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    Can the climate survive AI’s thirst for energy?

    enJuly 16, 2024
    What types of meals does The Guardian's Feast app offer?
    How does AI's energy consumption impact greenhouse gas emissions?
    What energy sources are tech companies shifting towards?
    Who are some expert cooks featured in the app?
    What is the duration of the free trial for the app?

    Podcast Summary

    • AI Energy ConsumptionThe use of AI comes with a significant energy challenge as data centers that power these systems consume vast amounts of energy, raising concerns about the industry's ability to help reduce global emissions and meet climate goals

      The Guardian's new Feast app offers an extensive range of delicious and easy-to-make meals for everyone, from beginners to experts. The app features vibrant vegan dishes, hearty comfort foods, and bold flavors from renowned Guardian cooks. However, the advancement of Artificial Intelligence (AI) technology comes with a significant challenge: its immense energy consumption. Companies like Google and Microsoft, leaders in AI development, have seen a surge in greenhouse gas emissions due to the expansion of data centers that power AI systems. This energy problem raises questions about the industry's ability to help reduce global emissions and meet climate goals. Alex Hearn, the Guardian's UK technology editor, explains that the energy consumption in an example like ChatGPT writing a speech about mushrooms comes from the servers and cooling systems that process and transmit the data. Energy correspondent Gillian Ambrose adds that the renewable energy sources used to power these data centers are essential to mitigate the environmental impact. Despite the challenges, both experts remain optimistic about the potential of AI to contribute positively to climate solutions.

    • AI energy consumptionAI models like ChatGPT use significant energy during both training and inference processes, contributing to a substantial environmental impact. Optimizing queries, using energy-efficient models, and considering the necessity of AI usage are potential ways to reduce this impact.

      While using AI models like ChatGPT to get information, such as a haiku about a mushroom, may seem convenient, it comes with a significant environmental cost. The process of inference, where the AI model uses energy to provide a response to a query, accounts for around 90% of the total energy use in the AI economy. However, the training process, which involves teaching the model vast quantities of data to perform specific tasks, requires even more energy and resources. For instance, some companies are reportedly spending billions to train a single AI model. The energy used in building and maintaining the data centers required for training and inference also contributes to the environmental impact. Compared to a regular Google search, a GPT query uses five to ten times more energy, which is why the energy use continues until you receive a response, unlike a Google search where the energy use stops once the result is displayed. It's essential to be aware of this environmental cost and consider ways to reduce it, such as optimizing queries, using more energy-efficient models, or using AI for tasks that truly require its capabilities rather than for trivial queries.

    • AI energy demandThe rapid growth of AI technology, particularly advanced models, is leading to a significant increase in energy demand from data centers, projected to double by 2026 and represent 4.5% of global energy generation by the end of the decade.

      The growth of AI technology, particularly advanced models like GPT-40, is leading to a significant increase in energy demand from data centers. Currently, data centers account for around 2% of global energy demand, but this is expected to double to approximately 1,000 terawatt hours by 2026, equivalent to the energy demand of Japan. By the end of the decade, data centers are projected to represent 4.5% of global energy generation, up from 2% in 2021. These projections, while estimates from the International Energy Agency, represent a substantial increase in a relatively short timeframe. The energy demands of AI development are already having an impact on the planning of national grids, with the northeastern United States being an example. The accuracy and specifics of these estimates are uncertain due to the proprietary nature of AI development, but the energy requirements are already significant enough to warrant attention.

    • AI companies energy usage accountabilityAI companies, like OpenAI, aim to be carbon neutral while expanding AI systems, invest in renewable energy, but also consume massive amounts of energy. It's crucial to hold them accountable for their energy use beyond just signing contracts for low-carbon energy sources.

      The energy usage of large AI companies, such as OpenAI, is a complex issue with unclear answers regarding individual company consumption. However, these companies also aim to become carbon neutral while continuing to expand their AI systems. They are significant investors in renewable energy, making it more affordable for others, but also massive energy consumers themselves. It's crucial to hold these companies accountable for their energy use beyond just signing contracts for low-carbon energy sources, as the impact on the grid extends to other users.

    • Tech companies' energy shiftTech companies are investing in renewable energy due to the phase-out of nuclear power and increasing demand for energy, making renewables economically viable. AI is expected to contribute to energy efficiency and help meet climate targets, but its energy demands also raise concerns.

      Tech companies are shifting away from nuclear power and towards gas, coal, or renewable energy sources due to the phase-out of nuclear power. This increasing demand for energy necessitates investment in new renewable energy technologies to match it. Renewables have never been cheaper, making it economically viable for tech companies to make these investments. Tech leaders argue that AI, despite its high energy demands, will ultimately lead to energy savings and increased efficiency. Bill Gates is optimistic about tech's ability to invest in renewables and believes that AI will contribute to energy efficiency and help meet climate targets. However, the question remains whether AI can make these advancements quickly enough to compensate for its increased energy demands and the pressing need for climate action. As an energy journalist, my perspective is that time is of the essence.

    • Jevons ParadoxThe Jevons Paradox suggests that technological efficiency improvements in AI could lead to increased energy consumption, emphasizing the importance of considering energy implications and exploring ways to mitigate impacts through renewable energy sources and energy-efficient designs.

      While the development of more energy-efficient AI systems is important, there's a risk that the increased accessibility and use of AI could lead to a larger overall energy consumption. This phenomenon, known as the Jevons Paradox, suggests that technological efficiency improvements can actually lead to increased consumption. Therefore, it's crucial to consider the potential energy implications of the widespread adoption of AI and explore ways to mitigate these impacts, such as using renewable energy sources or designing AI systems with energy efficiency in mind. Additionally, individuals can make conscious choices to use less energy-intensive AI solutions when possible.

    • AI energy consumptionAs AI usage grows, its energy consumption could become significant, and individuals and governments should consider the environmental impact and choose renewable energy options where possible.

      As technology advances, particularly in the realm of artificial intelligence and digital assistants, individuals and governments will need to consider the energy consumption of these technologies as part of their carbon footprint. Currently, the impact of using AI, such as chatbots, is minimal. However, as we move towards a future where we rely on multiple, constantly running agents for various tasks, the energy usage could become significant. It's important to note that not all AI providers use renewable energy, so this is a factor to consider. Governments can play a role in regulating the energy use of AI companies to help mitigate the environmental impact. Ultimately, individuals will have the power to make choices about which agents to keep and which to turn off based on their personal carbon footprint goals.

    • AI and renewable energy supplyGovernments should focus on increasing renewable energy supply by making it easier for companies to connect and invest, rather than trying to curtail demand in the tech industry.

      While the challenges posed by AI and renewable energy production are significant, the focus should be on increasing the supply rather than trying to curtail demand. The economic incentives for tech companies to invest in their own renewable energy sources make regulation a complex issue. Instead, governments can facilitate the process by making it easier for companies to connect to the grid and invest in renewable energy. This approach would not only benefit the tech industry but also contribute positively to the climate crisis. Alex Hearn and Gillian Ambrose, experts in technology and energy reporting, discussed these issues on The Guardian's TechScape podcast. Listeners can follow their reporting on TheGuardian.com and sign up for Alex's newsletter for weekly tech insights. This episode was produced by Madeline Finley, Tom Glasser, and Holly Fisher, and sound designed by Joel Cox. The Guardian will be back on Thursday.

    • Guardian Feast appThe Guardian Feast app provides a diverse range of easy-to-make meals for all cooking levels, with expert instruction from chefs like Nigel Slater and Yota Motolengi, and caters to various dietary needs and preferences.

      The Guardian's new Feast app offers an extensive collection of delicious and easy-to-make meals for all cooking levels. Whether you're a seasoned foodie who knows the difference between kimchi and kefir, or just starting out in the kitchen, this app has got you covered. You'll find a diverse range of dishes, from vibrant vegan options to hearty comfort foods. Learn from expert cooks like Nigel Slater and Yota Motolengi as they share their bold flavors and techniques. The app caters to various dietary needs and preferences, ensuring there's something for everyone. The ultimate cooking experience awaits with The Guardian Feast app. Download now and enjoy a 14-day free trial, giving you ample time to explore the wealth of recipes and cooking tips. Terms and conditions apply.

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