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    Carnival Games (Replay)

    enMay 27, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Family-owned carnival game businessesFamily-owned businesses like Redbone Products in Pacific, Missouri, have deep roots in the carnival game industry and thrive on the hope and excitement that fairgoers bring, despite seemingly unfair odds.

      The carnival game industry is a close-knit community with deep roots, as exemplified by the family-owned business, Redbone Products, in Pacific, Missouri. The company's founder, Steve Turner, started in the business at a young age and eventually took over when the owner passed away. This is a common pathway in the industry, with many suppliers having multigenerational ties to carnival games. Despite the seemingly unfair odds and customers' disappointment, the business thrives on the hope and excitement that fairgoers bring, creating a unique and enduring experience.

    • Customized carnival game partsRedbone's success is rooted in intricate design and customization of carnival game parts, generating revenue through constant replacement due to wear and tear or loss, and attracting customers with unique specifications.

      Redbone's success lies in the intricate design and customization of carnival game parts. From balloons to basketball hoops, every detail is carefully considered to ensure the odds are in the carnival operator's favor. The company's revenue primarily comes from the constant replacement of these parts due to wear and tear or loss. Custom specifications, such as the size and material of basketball hoops or the sound of ring toss games, attract customers and contribute to the overall experience. Redbone's games, which cost from $3,000 to $30,000 each, are in high demand, with the company selling around 40 units per year. Ultimately, the public's decision to hand over their money on the midway is the final piece of the puzzle that completes Redbone's profitable business model.

    • Carnival_Game_Profit_MaximizationCarnival games prioritize profit maximization for workers over fair odds for customers, using concepts like 'throwing stock' to maintain profit margins.

      Carnival games are designed with the goal of maximizing profits for the carnival workers, rather than focusing on the odds of winning for the customers. Matthew Greyson, a retired journalist and engineer, became fascinated with carnival games and spent years collecting data on their odds of winning at various games in Michigan and Ohio. He found that some games, like Cover the Spot and Redbone basketball, had much lower odds of winning than others. However, carnival workers don't focus on the odds of winning for customers. Instead, they use a concept called "throwing stock," which refers to the amount of prizes they pay out in relation to the money they take in. If a game is paying out too much in prizes, the carnival worker may adjust the game to increase the odds of losing for customers, in order to maintain their profit margin. So, while customers may be focused on their own odds of winning, carnival workers are thinking about their own odds of losing, and will make adjustments to keep those odds in check.

    • Carnival Game StrategiesCarnival game operators use tactics like regulating prize quantities, monitoring distribution, and offering unusual prizes to maximize profits, making wins difficult for players.

      Carnival game operators employ various tactics to limit winnings and maximize profits. These strategies include regulating prize quantities, closely monitoring prize distribution, and even offering unusual or seemingly worthless prizes. Workers like Elliot Simmons, who have operated these games, have been instructed to maintain strict control over prize distribution to avoid raising suspicion. The prizes themselves, while not particularly valuable, can still add up for carnival-goers. Live prizes, such as goldfish, add an additional layer of complexity and cost for operators. Despite these challenges, some individuals, known as "Sharpies," continue to try and win big at carnival games. Overall, the carnival game experience is designed to be difficult to win, but the allure of potential winnings keeps many trying.

    • Carnival Games BusinessCarnival game operators face tight margins and high expenses, leading them to use creative methods to attract customers, sometimes deceptively, and may manipulate game setup to make it harder for customers to win, potentially disappointing them

      Operating carnival games involves tight margins and various expenses, making it essential for game operators to attract customers creatively, sometimes even using deceptive methods. The high costs include rent, labor, utilities, transportation, and prizes. For instance, a daily rent of $1500 could require operating 300 games just to cover the cost. The seasonal business, which operates roughly between April and October and is weather-dependent, adds to the financial challenges. Operators may resort to tricks like carrying large prizes around the park to attract crowds, or manipulating the game setup to make it harder for customers to win. This can lead to disappointment for customers, especially children, when they don't win despite their efforts.

    • Carnival GamesMost carnival games are fair, but some may be challenging. Regulations ensure fairness, and inspecting games before playing can help protect consumers. The thrill of winning a prize is a major draw for many.

      While there are unscrupulous carnival operators who rig games to make it impossible for customers to win, the majority of carnival businesses operate in good faith. Operators invest significant amounts of money in their games and want to maintain a positive reputation. Games may be challenging to win, but they are not necessarily unfair. Regulations ensure that carnivals and amusement parks follow strict rules to prevent rigged games. To protect yourself, ask to inspect the game before playing. As for why people continue to spend money on these games, it's all about the thrill and the desire to win a trophy, even if it's just a cheap toy. However, some people have lost substantial amounts of money in their pursuit of these trophies. For instance, a man spent his entire life savings, $26,100, trying to toss a softball into a bucket at a carnival, only to win a human-sized banana with dreadlocks. While it may seem foolish, the allure of winning a prize is a significant part of the carnival experience.

    • Carnival of LifeLife, like a carnival, offers excitement and joy, but also disappointments. Appreciate the journey and learn from the outcomes, good or bad.

      Life, like a carnival, can be filled with excitement and fun, but not everything is a guaranteed win. Hanky pink prizes in carnivals, which are mostly aimed at young kids and are worth significantly less than the cost of a single turn, serve as a metaphor for life's disappointments. While some may view the carnival as a romantic experience filled with joy and fun, others, like Elliott Simmons, take a more pragmatic approach and advise caution against what seems too good to be true. Regardless of perspective, both Gryzin and Simmons agree that there's something appealing about the lights, noise, and simple pleasures of the carnival, even if the outcomes don't always meet our expectations. As listeners, we can draw parallels to our own lives and learn to appreciate the journey, even when the results don't always align with our desires. The carnival, much like life, is an exciting adventure filled with ups and downs, and it's all part of the experience.

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