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    Central bankers do nothing. Markets respond

    enJune 13, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Healthcare Coverage, Interest RatesCentral bankers face challenges in predicting market movements, and ongoing discussions revolve around universal healthcare coverage and potential interest rate hikes

      There are ongoing discussions about universal healthcare coverage and potential mandates, whether at the federal or state level. Meanwhile, uncertainty surrounds the number of interest rate hikes we may see from the Federal Reserve this year. Central banking is a complex job with significant consequences, and even central bankers themselves have struggled to accurately predict market movements. This week, the Fed suggested we might see one and a half rate hikes, but the markets and their predictions have been inconsistent. Central bankers face constant scrutiny and criticism, and their forecasts have been off the mark in recent years. Despite these challenges, the conversation continues around healthcare coverage and interest rates. Stay tuned to "The Outthinking Investor" for more insights on these topics and more.

    • Fed's rate cut uncertaintyThe Fed's rate cut expectations have seen significant fluctuations due to the committee's indecisiveness and the market's overreaction to inflation data. The actual number of rate cuts is likely to be closer to one and a half, not six as initially expected.

      The Federal Reserve's rate cut expectations have seen significant fluctuations this year due to the committee's indecisiveness and the market's overreaction to inflation data. The median expectation was for one rate cut, but eight members suggested two, leaving the outcome uncertain. The market initially expected six rate cuts based on the Fed's initial stance and market sentiment, but the actual number of rate cuts is likely to be closer to one and a half. The market's misinterpretation of the inflation data, which showed three strong numbers at the start of the year, led to a significant readjustment as reality set in. The uncertainty lies in the data dependence of the Fed, meaning their decisions are heavily influenced by incoming data, leaving their intentions unclear.

    • US InflationThe US met its 2% inflation target for the first time in over a year in May 2023, but analysts caution against interpreting this as a trend due to potential revisions and changing economic conditions.

      The US experienced five months of inflation data in 2023, with the May figure showing zero headline inflation and a 0.16% increase in core inflation. This marked the first time in over a year that the US met its 2% inflation target. However, the Fed and analysts are cautious about interpreting this data as a trend, as one month's figures can be subject to revision and may not accurately represent the long-term economic situation. Therefore, it's essential to approach individual committee members' rate cut forecasts with skepticism, as their views may change based on new data. Overall, the May inflation report was a positive sign, but it's crucial to maintain a cautious perspective on the economic outlook.

    • Central banks' forecasts uncertaintyCentral banks' economic forecasts should be seen as educated guesses due to economic uncertainty, as their past records show significant inaccuracies and they put less weight on them now

      Central banks' economic forecasts should be viewed as educated guesses rather than promises. Central banks, including the Federal Reserve, Bank of England, and European Central Bank, acknowledge that their forecasts are subject to change due to the uncertainty surrounding economic conditions. Their past records show that their forecasts have been less volatile than markets because they don't make them as frequently. However, their forecasts have been swinging around as much as the rest of us due to the uncertainty surrounding economic conditions, particularly inflation. Central banks in Europe, such as the Bank of England and the European Central Bank, have recently acknowledged the inaccuracy of their forecasts and have started to put less weight on them. Central banks' confidence in their forecasts seems to be wavering, as evidenced by their reactions to recent economic data releases.

    • Post-pandemic inflation forecastingCentral bankers and economists face complex challenges in forecasting inflation due to multiple factors including changes in demand patterns, supply chain disruptions, and geopolitical events.

      Forecasting inflation has become significantly more complex in the post-pandemic world due to a multitude of factors. Central bankers and economists are no longer just focusing on consumer spending but also need to consider supply side issues, such as changes in demand patterns during the pandemic, supply chain disruptions, and geopolitical events like potential trade wars and energy supply shocks. These factors add a massive extra dimension to forecasting, making it much harder than before. It's not that we're getting stupider; instead, the world is getting more complicated. We're dealing with larger and more frequent supply shocks, which makes forecasting inflation a challenging task.

    • Fed's Decision on Rate CutThe Fed is closely monitoring inflation and jobs market before deciding on the first rate cut, with a possibility in September if two strong inflation figures are reported, and a less restrictive approach could be adopted.

      The Federal Reserve, led by Chairman Jay Powell, is closely monitoring inflation and the jobs market before making a decision on the first interest rate cut. While the jobs market remains strong, the focus is on whether inflation will consistently meet the 2% target. The September meeting in mid-September is a possibility for the first rate cut if there are two strong inflation releases in a row. The Fed could also adopt a less restrictive approach, gradually easing off the brakes on inflation without fully releasing them. Economists and central banking experts are closely watching these developments, and the consensus is that a few good inflation figures could make a rate cut more likely.

    • Fed's monetary policy and US electionThe Fed is unlikely to prioritize the US election when making monetary policy decisions, focusing instead on what they perceive as the best strategy for the economy, with potential implications for a Biden or Trump administration.

      The Federal Reserve is unlikely to prioritize the US election when making monetary policy decisions, as they generally focus on what they perceive as the best strategy for the economy. The speaker suggests that the Fed might consider the potential implications of a Biden or Trump administration, but they would not try to sway the election outcome through their actions. The speaker also notes that historical data shows that the Fed has made rate cuts in the September before a November election, but it's unclear if this trend will continue. Ultimately, the Fed's decisions are driven by their assessment of the economic situation, rather than political considerations.

    • Fed interest rate hike timingEconomists and market analysts debate when the next Fed interest rate hike will occur, with some predicting it under Trump and others in September, while legacy and fear of being wrong influence some analysts' hesitancy.

      The ongoing debate among economists and market analysts revolves around the timing of the next interest rate hike by the Federal Reserve, with some predicting it could still happen under the Trump administration, while others believe it may be more likely in September. Legacy and the fear of being wrong seem to be major concerns for some analysts, who are hesitant to make predictions. Separately, the hosts discussed their belief in providing more investment opportunities to typical American workers, and during their "Long Short" segment, they expressed optimism about transatlantic interest rate diversion and dismissed concerns about potential market turmoil due to differing interest rates on either side of the Atlantic.

    • Interest rates, currency markets, inflationImpact of interest rates on currency markets and inflation for large economies like Eurozone and US may not be as significant as expected due to their interconnectedness and import/export relationships.

      The relationship between interest rates, currency markets, and inflation can be complex. While it's true that changes in interest rates can lead to currency fluctuations and potential inflationary pressures, the impact may not be as significant as some might expect, especially for large economies like the Eurozone and the US. Central banks are sensitive to currency movements, but the inflation effects of these movements can be overstated due to the fact that a significant portion of each economy's imports and exports are with each other. Additionally, the speaker expressed his relief at the end of exam season and shared his prediction that Nigel Farage is unlikely to win an upcoming election.

    • British politics, Bank of EnglandNigel Farage predicted to lose in upcoming elections, Bank of England expected to cut interest rates in September, short parks topic of interest

      Learning from this episode of Unhedged is that Nigel Farage, the British politician, is predicted to lose in upcoming elections, and the Bank of England is expected to cut interest rates in September. Additionally, short parks are a topic of interest. These insights were shared during the podcast, which is produced by Jake Harper, edited by Brian Erstach, and executive produced by Jacob Goldstein. The FT's global head of audio is Cheryl Bromley. The team had assistance from Topher4Heads, Laura Clark, Alistomaki, Greta Cone, and Natalie Sadler. FT Premium subscribers can receive the Unhedge newsletter for free, and a 30-day free trial is available to non-subscribers. Katie Martin, the host of the podcast, thanked listeners for tuning in.

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