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    On the morning of October 07, 2023, Hamas launched an unprovoked attack from the Gaza Strip, indiscriminately killing more than 1,400 Israeli and foreign nationals. Over 200 civilians, including women and children, were taken to Gaza as hostages. IN response to this attack, as well as subsequent attacks launched from Lebanon and Syria, Israel began an unprecedented bombing campaign of Gaza and targeted Hezbollah and Syrian government military positions. The conflict is unlikely to end soon and may spread.

    While the conflict itself demands global attention, the focus of this podcast is Chinese foreign and security policy. This discussion focuses on China’s response to the war, China’s relations with Palestine and Israel, and the actions that Beijing might take in the coming weeks and months that could help defuse the conflict or cause it to worsen.

    To date, China has not condemned Hamas. Instead, it has criticized what it calls Israel’s disproportionate military response and the “collective punishment of the Gazan people.” Moreover, it has trumpeted its position as an unbiased potential mediator and called for a ceasefire and the implementation of a two-state solution.

    Host Bonnie Glaser is joined by Tuvia Gering, who, like many Israelis, has been activated to defend his country. Gering is a leading expert on China and its relations with the Middle East. In his civilian capacity, he is a researcher at the Diane & Guilford Glazer Foundation’s Israel-China Policy Center at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv and a nonresident fellow for the Atlantic Council’s Global China Hub.

     

    Timestamps

    [02:25] China’s Past Relationships with Israel and Palestine

    [03:43] Reaction to the Chinese Response 

    [05:06] China’s Interests in Supporting Palestine

    [09:06] China’s Reaction to the Death of Chinese Citizens

    [10:55] Benefits of a Wider Conflict for China 

    [15:02] Comparisons to the War in Ukraine

    [17:54] China as a Mediator for the War

    [20:55] Antisemitism in Chinese Society

    [25:35] Outcome of the War for China

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    Timestamps

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    [06:33] The US-China Cold War and its Characteristics

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    Time Stamps

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    Timestamps

    [01:39] EU-China Relations on the Eve of the 24th Bilateral Summit

    [05:13] Impact of the War in Ukraine on EU-China Relations

    [07:29] How could China alleviate concerns in Europe? 

    [09:33] De-risking in the European Union

    [15:27] Proportionate and Precise Economic Security

    [18:27] How similar are EU and US perceptions of China?

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    [26:19] How can EU contribute to peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait?

    [27:21] Outcomes of the Biden-Xi Summit

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    Timestamps

    [02:25] China’s Past Relationships with Israel and Palestine

    [03:43] Reaction to the Chinese Response 

    [05:06] China’s Interests in Supporting Palestine

    [09:06] China’s Reaction to the Death of Chinese Citizens

    [10:55] Benefits of a Wider Conflict for China 

    [15:02] Comparisons to the War in Ukraine

    [17:54] China as a Mediator for the War

    [20:55] Antisemitism in Chinese Society

    [25:35] Outcome of the War for China

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    Timestamps

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    [04:36] Three Objectives of Chinese Military Diplomacy

    [06:15] China’s Regions of Interest

    [08:48] Gauging the Success of China’s Military

    [11:46] Beijing’s Broader Geo-Political Strategy

    [13:47] Challenges Posed to US Interests

    [15:53] Military Installations Versus Commercial Ports

    [17:20] Potential Chinese Presence in Cambodia 

    [19:27] Potential Chinese Presence in Equatorial Guinea 

    [21:41] Beijing’s Assessment of their Military Diplomacy

    [23:33] Recommendations for a US Response

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    Since taking office in June 2022, President Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. has pursued a strategy of “being a friend to all and an enemy to none.” He has tried to maintain close economic ties with China, signing 14 cooperation agreements when he visited Beijing last January, including an updated Belt and Road Initiative memorandum. He secured over $22 billion in investment and trade deals. But the maritime disputes between the Philippines and China are becoming more contentious, and Manila is pushing back against Chinese pressure in new ways.  

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    Timestamps

    [01:36] Changes in Sino-Phillipine Relations

    [09:05] Tensions Between the Chinese Coast Guard and Philippine Ships

    [14:23] Pushing Back Against China

    [20:55] China, the Philippines, and the Warship

    [25:05] Future Relations with China

    [29:30] The Philippines and a Taiwan Strait Conflict