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    • From search engine to subscription service: ClassPass' journey to successDespite challenges and pivots, ClassPass persevered and found success through a subscription model. Empathy and human connection are essential in business, while data-driven companies need to optimize services for growth.

      Building a successful business often involves overcoming challenges and iterating through multiple ideas. This was the case for ClassPass, a subscription service for fitness classes that went through several painful pivots before finding success. Founder Payal Kadakia initially struggled to sign up for a dance class online and, in response, launched a search engine for various types of classes. However, this idea did not take off, and Kadakia and her team went through several upgrades and adjustments before eventually pivoting to a subscription model. Despite this success, ClassPass faced a new challenge with the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, which forced the company to adapt to the closure of fitness studios. Throughout it all, Kadikia and her team remained focused on their mission and were able to turn challenges into opportunities for growth. Another key takeaway is the importance of empathy and human connection in business, as demonstrated by Amica Insurance, which aims to make insurance feel more personal and human. Additionally, companies that depend on data, such as DoorDash, Amazon, and Peloton, require a significant amount of time and effort to optimize their services effectively. Overall, building a successful business requires a combination of perseverance, innovation, and a willingness to adapt to changing circumstances.

    • Indian girl's journey to self-confidence through danceDeveloping a strong cultural identity and self-confidence can help individuals navigate challenges and embrace their unique identities

      Culture and self-confidence, even if developed through unconventional means, can significantly shape an individual's identity and resilience. Pyle's story illustrates this as she shares her experiences growing up as an Indian girl in a predominantly white community in New Jersey. Despite feeling like an outsider, she found solace and confidence through Indian dance. However, her unique identity was put to the test when she encountered bullying at school. This experience led her to keep her Indian and American lives separate for several years. Yet, her love for dance and the connection it gave her to her heritage helped her navigate these challenges and ultimately embrace her dual identity.

    • Overcoming challenges as a second-generation Indian-American woman in academics and dancePayal Kadakia leveraged her dual passions for analytics and creativity to succeed, creating opportunities for herself and eventually founding ClassPass, while gaining valuable experience in the business world before starting her own dance company.

      Despite facing challenges as a small, second-generation Indian-American woman, Payal Kadakia used her dual identities and passions for analytics and creativity to excel in academics and dance. She created opportunities for herself, leading MIT's Indian dance troupe and later founding ClassPass. Her experiences at MIT and Bain provided valuable real-world knowledge, preparing her for entrepreneurship. Although she had the ambition to start her own dance company right after graduation, she recognized the importance of gaining experience in the business world before taking the leap.

    • Following passions despite conflictsPursuing passions alongside full-time jobs can lead to unique experiences and opportunities. Observe, innovate, and merge skills to make it sustainable.

      Following your passion and hustling to make it work, even with a full-time job, can lead to remarkable experiences and opportunities. The interviewee, despite facing conflicts between her corporate career and her love for dance, managed to start a dance troupe and later on, discovered her entrepreneurial spirit by observing tech startups in San Francisco. She realized that she wanted to merge her business skills with her creativity, leading her to the inception of ClassPass. The journey was busy and challenging, but it taught her the importance of pursuing what she loved and finding innovative ways to make it sustainable.

    • Identifying a pain point and solving it with technologyPersonal experiences can inspire innovative business ideas. Believe in your idea, research it, and share it with others. Support from loved ones can be crucial in pursuing your dream.

      Personal experiences and observations can serve as the foundation for innovative business ideas. In this case, a frustrating experience with finding dance classes online led to the idea for a platform that consolidated class information, much like OpenTable or SeamlessWeb. The speaker, inspired by the success of these companies, saw potential for scalability and began researching and sharing the idea with others. A turning point came when the speaker's mother encouraged her to pursue her dream and quit her job, leading to a meeting with an investor who was impressed by the idea and provided initial funding. This story illustrates the power of identifying a pain point and using technology to solve it, as well as the importance of believing in one's own ideas and having the support of loved ones.

    • The power of belief and support from othersBelief and support from friends and mentors can provide the confidence and resources to pursue a business idea, leading to its success.

      The passion and belief of others in an idea can be a powerful catalyst for its success. The speaker shares a personal story of starting a business, an active and creative classes search engine, with a childhood friend after receiving unexpected financial support. This early investment and involvement of a friend validated the idea and gave the confidence to quit their job and fully commit to the project. The idea gained traction as people saw the speaker's previous hustle and professionalism in running a dance company. The initial focus was on mastering the scheduling data, integrating with open APIs, and becoming a go-to source for class information. The business raised half a million dollars before joining an incubator program, where they met other founders and gained valuable mentorship. Despite encountering challenges such as a name change, the team persisted and continued to build the business. The story underscores the importance of having a strong support system and the power of belief in an idea from others.

    • From initial success to pivoting for growthDespite initial success, the founders of Classivity faced challenges in monetizing their platform due to low user engagement. They pivoted into a new direction, leading to the successful formation of ClassPass.

      Building a successful company involves overcoming challenges and pivoting when necessary. The founders of Classivity, a platform for booking classes, faced initial success with their tech press coverage and a large number of listed classes. However, they were unable to monetize the platform as planned due to a lack of user engagement. Despite spending close to half a million dollars and over a year and a half, they only had one sign-up. The team tried various solutions, such as ensuring the buy button worked and making the button more visible. However, they struggled to gain traction. Eventually, the founder, Hephaile, pivoted the business into a new direction, which eventually led to the successful formation of ClassPass. This story highlights the importance of perseverance, adaptability, and the willingness to pivot when faced with challenges in the entrepreneurial journey.

    • Focusing on motivation instead of just convenienceEffective communication and understanding human behavior are crucial for business success. Engage directly with stakeholders, recognize their aspirations, and use compelling visuals to inspire and motivate.

      Effective communication and understanding human behavior are key to business success. In the case of Class-Tivity, the team realized that despite having a search engine for fitness classes, they needed to focus on motivating people to attend classes rather than just making it convenient to find them. This shift in approach involved engaging directly with studio owners and understanding their challenges, as well as recognizing the aspirational nature of fitness classes and the need to make attending fun rather than an obligation. Canva, on the other hand, offers a solution for more engaging and productive presentations, which can help businesses effectively communicate and inspire their audiences. Whether it's in the context of sales, marketing, HR, or any other field, compelling visual content and clear communication can make all the difference.

    • Aggregating fitness classes and simplifying bookingUser convenience, accessibility, and variety led to customer satisfaction and business growth through aggregating fitness classes and simplifying booking process, pivoting from a 30-day subscription to a monthly subscription model.

      The Passport product, a 30-day subscription allowing users to try various boutique fitness classes from multiple studios for a flat fee, demonstrated the value of aggregating services in one place and providing an easier booking experience. Although the product brought progress with reservations and user engagement, it presented challenges, such as low return rates for studios and customers using multiple email addresses to sign up repeatedly. The insight from a user survey revealing high demand for a recurring subscription led to the pivot to ClassPass, a monthly subscription model, addressing the need for repeat customers and studio loyalty. The Passport experience highlighted the importance of user convenience, accessibility, and variety in driving customer satisfaction and business growth.

    • ClassPass's Success from Iterating on a Business ModelClassPass grew exponentially by iterating on a monthly subscription model, starting with a loss but building strong relationships with studios and customers through better rates and higher retention.

      The success of ClassPass came from iterating on a business model and testing it with customers. In June 2013, the company launched a class pass model, a monthly subscription allowing users to attend up to three classes per month at various studios for a flat fee. This was inspired by the success of the passport model and proved to be exponential in growth, surpassing the revenue of the passport model by month three. The company started by signing up users and fulfilling reservations on the studio's websites, even if it meant losing money in the beginning. The founders' passion for the product and their attendance at classes helped gain the trust of studio owners, and they negotiated better rates as they grew. The model involved paying studios a negotiated fee for each class attended by a ClassPass customer. This approach allowed the company to build a strong relationship with both customers and studios, leading to higher retention and growth.

    • Setting clear goals and demonstrating business viabilityFounder reached a million dollar run rate by acquiring a thousand customers monthly, proving concept and securing series A investment, despite facing challenges and bending rules slightly.

      Setting clear goals and demonstrating the viability of a business concept are crucial steps in securing funding. The founder of ClassPass, described how she aimed to reach a million dollar run rate by acquiring a thousand paying customers per month. This goal proved the concept and allowed her to raise a series A investment. Despite facing challenges, such as legal issues with partnerships, she persisted, learning that sometimes, bending the rules a little was necessary to survive and grow. Her determination and resilience, even in male-dominated investor rooms, ultimately led to her success.

    • Embrace your uniqueness and stay true to your missionConfidently build a business by staying true to your vision, taking calculated risks, testing different models, and securing strategic partnerships.

      Being different and multifaceted is a strength, and it's important to find people who understand and support your unique qualities. This was a recurring theme in the speaker's journey as she built her business, Class Pass. She learned to be confident in herself and her abilities, even when faced with doubt or skepticism from others. In 2013, she reached a million-dollar run rate and began to focus the company by getting rid of earlier products and expanding to new markets. In 2014, she introduced an unlimited membership plan and saw tremendous growth, but also faced competition. Throughout it all, she remained committed to her vision and found success by staying true to herself and her mission. Additionally, she emphasized the importance of taking calculated risks, testing different business models, and securing strategic partnerships to drive growth.

    • Expanding business and introducing lower packages to competeTo maintain profitability in a competitive market, consider expanding to new markets and offering lower packages, but be aware of the impact on your most profitable offerings.

      In a competitive market, maintaining a sustainable business model can be challenging when competitors match your pricing and offerings. The founder of a fitness startup shares how they responded to this situation by rapidly expanding their business to new markets and introducing lower packages to attract a wider customer base. However, this approach led to a deteriorating margin for their unlimited product, as their most profitable users opted for lower-priced packages. Ultimately, the founder realized they were betting against their customers' activity levels and needed to make a change to align with their mission of encouraging fitness.

    • Pivoting to adapt and solve customer problemsSuccessful tech businesses must be adaptable and focused on solving customer issues. ClassPass founders learned this when they shifted from an unlimited gym model to class packs and credits, and continued to evolve the business to include additional services.

      Being a successful tech business requires adaptability and a focus on solving problems for customers. The founders of ClassPass learned this the hard way when they discovered that their initial unlimited gym membership model was not sustainable due to customer behavior. They pivoted multiple times, offering class packs and credits instead, and continued to evolve their business to include additional services like massages and acupuncture. This resilience and mission-driven approach allowed them to weather challenges and grow the company, which became a symbol for young women founders, especially women of color, and was valued at nearly half a billion dollars in 2017. Despite stepping down as CEO, the founders remained committed to the company's success.

    • A CEO's role evolves with company growthA CEO's role changes as a company grows, requiring a focus on strategy and vision rather than day-to-day operations. Authenticity and alignment with strengths and passions are crucial for success.

      The role of a CEO significantly evolves as a company grows, and it's essential for leaders to ensure they're in a role that aligns with their strengths and passions. The speaker, a former CEO, shared her experience of transitioning from the day-to-day operations to focusing on strategy and vision. She emphasized that a title doesn't define you; it's the work you do. However, she cautioned against forcing oneself into a role that feels inauthentic. The company she led experienced rapid growth, which brought new challenges, including criticism from competitors and studios. Balancing the needs of both sides of the marketplace was crucial, and the company continually worked to improve its technology and data to maximize revenue for all parties. Ultimately, the speaker believed that their product was the experience their customers had with instructors and studios, not the technology they built.

    • Navigating Unprecedented Times: A Billion-Dollar Fitness Company's Pivot to SurvivalAgile businesses adapt to survive uncertain times, offering digital solutions and supporting partners during hardships.

      During unprecedented times, the focus for businesses, especially small ones, should be on survival and adaptation. The speaker, who runs a fitness company that became the first billion-dollar business of the new decade, shared how they had to pivot quickly when studios were mandated to close due to the pandemic. They shifted their business model to offer digital workouts and a relief fund for their studio partners. The speaker acknowledged the challenges of the situation, including the loss of revenue and the need to let go of employees, but remained optimistic and resilient. They emphasized the importance of keeping people active at home and ensuring their partners could make it through. The speaker also noted that entrepreneurs face various challenges, and while some may experience high levels of anxiety, others become more resilient with experience. Overall, the takeaway is that businesses must be agile and adaptable to survive and thrive in uncertain times.

    • Staying focused and adaptable with a strong sense of purposeDespite facing challenges, Paal emphasized the importance of hard work, skill, positioning oneself for opportunities, having a clear center, and maintaining a strong sense of purpose to build a successful business.

      Paal shared her experience of fighting every day to come up with solutions for her business, even during difficult times. She emphasized the role of hard work, skill, and making luck happen through positioning oneself for opportunities. Paal also highlighted the significance of having a clear center, which for her was dancing, and how it helped her make decisions and find clarity. Lastly, she expressed the rewarding feeling of knowing that her parents came from nothing and saw her build a successful company. Overall, Paal's story illustrates the importance of staying focused, being adaptable, and maintaining a strong sense of purpose in the face of challenges.

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    “I'm here to serve and not be served. So my idea of abundance is making money to give away. I'm happy where I am.”

     

    “I think in general, it's just that there's always hope. There's going to be trials. Learn to embrace those trials.”

     

    Adversities Craig had to overcome:

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    · Having an alcoholic mother

    · Losing both parents

    · Getting through divorce

    · Health struggles



    Abundance Craig created:

    · Knowing your passion and doing it

    · The passing of his parents made him even stronger

    · Following your calling and passion despite of and in spite of life adversities

     


    Craig Thayer's Book "Saved"

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