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    Conservative Friends Bible Study of Mark #28 Mark 15:33-16:20

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    The sour wine given to Jesus on the cross (15:36) may have been meant as a sedative to ease pain. As in our not too distant past, people could be given liquor to ease their pain.
    In 15:38, the curtain to the Holy of Holies in the temple being torn in two
    could symbolize there now was full access to God through the sacrifice of Jesus
    of Himself.
    15:39 is mistranslated. Both since there is no definite article (“the”) in the original
    Greek, and also since the centurion was almost certainly a Roman pagan who
    believed in many gods, the Greek should instead be translated, “Truly, this man
    is a son of a god.”
     Regarding Mark 15:40-41, women in patriarchal Judaism held a very low
    position. It was very unusual that Jesus, as a rabbi, included women as a
    significant part of his group of apostles and disciples.
    The color white worn by the young man (16:5) was a symbol of victory.
    There has been much discussion over the centuries concerning the ending of
    Mark 16:9-20. Those last 11 verses are not found in the oldest and most reliable
    manuscripts, making it appear that perhaps the last page of Mark’s Gospel was
    lost before it could be copied by others. The reason to think the last page may
    have been lost is because the last Greek word in 16:8 is the conjunction “for”
    (γάρ/”gar”). The problem is that in Greek, γάρ is a conjunction and appears never
    to be found as the last word in a sentence. Some of the more reliable earliest
    manuscripts just end at verse 8. So, some copyists felt a need to complete this
    Gospel’s missing ending.
    In addition, in the first century it was increasingly becoming the practice among
    Greeks to no longer write in scrolls, but to write on individual pages bound into
    “codices”, the forerunners of our books today. Thus, the grammatical abruptness
    of this ending in the Greek manuscripts seems to indicate that perhaps the last
    page of Mark’s Gospel was lost before it had a chance to be copied by other
    people. There are several other variations of endings to Mark, and they are
    discussed in the podcast.

     Greek Words

    • Kanōn - a straight reed, used as a standard of measurement (English: the canon,
    • canonical)
    • 15:39 centurion: “Truly this man was a son of a god.”
    • Leukos adj. – white (symbolizing “victory”). Here, victory over death.
    • Scroll – a roll of paper or parchment with writing on it.
    • Codex (plural: codices) – the earliest form of books, first used in the first century,
    • A.D.
    • In 16:7 Peter is mentioned separately from the other disciples. (Recall that he
    • had renounced Jesus).
    • In 16:8 Ephobounto gar. – “For they were afraid.”
    • Phobeō (v.)– be afraid; have awesome respect
    • Gar (conjunction) – for (only occurs after the first word of a clause/sentence in
    • Greek)
    • In English the conjunction “for” is always the first word in a clause/sentence.
    • [Note that this is different from the usage of the English preposition “for” in a
    • prepositional phrase which can occur anywhere in a sentence].

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    control over the area. Rome reserved the authority to put someone to death, so
    for a local government to put someone to death required Roman approval.
    The meeting of the Sanhedrin at night to try Jesus (14:53 and following) was
    highly irregular, and not a typical time for gathering.
    The term “Son of Man” (14:62) is drawn from Daniel and is literally, “Son of
    Adam”.

    To tear one’s clothing (14:63) was the proper Jewish response when someone
    spoke blasphemy.

    The main reason the Jewish leaders were able to get Jesus crucified was
    because His alleged claim to be king of the Jews (in challenge to the Roman
    Emperor) made Him an insurrectionist and rebel, and thus worthy of crucifixion
    under Roman law.   

    For Roman crucifixion, since the vertical piece of the cross was usually already
    installed at the place of crucifixion, the one to be crucified only carried the
    horizontal cross piece of the cross to the place of crucifixion, not both the
    horizontal and vertical pieces.

    In crucifixion, the nails were not driven through the palm (where there is almost
    no structure to hold the body to the cross), but the nails were driven through the
    bones of the wrist. The Greek word for hand (cheir) included any part of the arm,
    from the hand to the upper arm. Thus, one had to know the context of the usage
    in order to understand what specific part of the upper limb a Greek writer meant.
    Because the Romans wanted to completely shame and humiliate those who
    were being crucified, the crucified were stripped of all clothing and left to hang
    completely naked from the cross.

    The Greek word “lēistēs” often translated as “robber” in the Holy Scriptures could
    also mean insurrectionist or rebel. It is much more likely that Jesus was crucified
    between two insurrectionists, and He Himself also crucified insurrectionists.
     

    Greek Words

    • Christos: anointed (The Hebrew word (mashiach) meant “anointed”, messiah.)
    • Cheir: any part of the arm from the upper arm including the hand, thus hand or
    • arm.
    • Lēistēs: bandit or insurrectionist

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