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    Counting Other People's Blessings

    enNovember 25, 2019

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    • Envy: A Tool for Social ComparisonEnvy can motivate personal growth but also lead to destructive consequences. Understanding its complexities can help navigate emotional landscape.

      Envy, an often misunderstood and unpleasant emotion, serves as a tool for social comparison and can lead to both personal growth and destructive consequences. The story of Jessica Kyle from Atlanta, Georgia, illustrates this concept. While recovering from dengue fever on a remote island, Jessica felt intense envy towards her friend who was receiving superior medical care. This envy signaled her relative weakness in the situation and motivated her to express her feelings to her friend upon their reunion. However, envy can also lead to malicious behaviors, such as resentment, rage, and even revenge. Homer Simpson, from "The Simpsons," is a comical representation of many of the seven deadly sins, including envy. Understanding envy and its complexities can help us navigate the emotional landscape of life, appreciating its potential benefits and pitfalls.

    • The Complexity of Envy in the Simpsons' Relationship with Ned FlandersEnvy arises from natural human tendency to notice and compare social hierarchies, highlighting inherent inequalities in society. Understanding this emotion can help navigate social dynamics and build stronger relationships.

      Envy, as shown in the Simpsons' relationship with Ned Flanders, is a complex emotion that arises from the natural human tendency to notice and compare social hierarchies. While Homer's envy and Schadenfreude towards Flanders may seem negative, they also serve a purpose in highlighting the inequalities that exist in society. Christopher Boehm's anthropological research shows that even in egalitarian societies, there are inherent inequalities that individuals are aware of. The Simpsons' envy towards Flanders, despite his niceness, stems from these perceived differences in social status and material possessions. However, recognizing and understanding these emotions can help us navigate social dynamics and build stronger relationships.

    • Understanding Social Comparisons and Their Impact on Mental Well-beingSocial comparisons can inspire us to improve ourselves, but excessive use of social media for comparisons can negatively impact mental health. Focus on personal progress and goals instead.

      Humans make sense of the world and understand their place in it through social comparisons. When we meet new people or encounter their achievements, we often compare them to ourselves, which can lead to feelings of envy or admiration. These feelings can inspire us to work harder or build the lives we desire. However, excessive social comparison, particularly through social media, can make us unhappy as we constantly compare ourselves to others and judge our own worth based on their perceived successes. The study by Ohad Barzile found that Facebook use increases social comparison and can negatively impact mental well-being. Therefore, it's essential to be mindful of the comparisons we make and focus on our own progress and goals rather than constantly comparing ourselves to others.

    • Fear of Missing Out: The Anxiety of Being Left OutExcessive social comparison can lead to anxiety and feelings of FOMO, which can negatively impact well-being by causing anger, resentment, and decreased happiness.

      Excessive social comparison can lead to decreased happiness and feelings of social anxiety, known as FOMO (Fear of Missing Out). This anxiety isn't about the experience itself, but rather the fear of missing out on group experiences that could shape the group's history and potentially undermine one's sense of belongingness. Even if we choose to miss out on a seemingly better experience, the fear of being left out of important group events can be a significant source of anxiety. This type of envy, which can also lead to anger and resentment, is different from the benign form and can have negative consequences. It's essential to be aware of these feelings and understand their roots to prevent them from negatively impacting our well-being.

    • Comparing ourselves to peers can lead to envyEnvy arises when we compare ourselves to those in similar situations and can result in negative emotions like malicious envy and Schadenfreude.

      Envy often arises when we compare ourselves to those in similar situations, and it can lead to negative emotions like malicious envy and Schadenfreude. Social psychologists explain that comparison standards are crucial in determining envy, and we tend to compare ourselves to peers rather than those significantly above or below us. In the case of malicious envy, we may feel intense negative emotions towards those who seem to have what we desire, and Schadenfreude arises when we take pleasure in their misfortunes. A classic example of this dynamic can be seen in the movie "Amadeus," where the character Salieri experiences intense envy towards Mozart, leading him to sabotage the composer's work and ultimately take pleasure in his downfall.

    • The pleasure derived from others' downfall: SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude is the feeling of pleasure when witnessing the downfall of those perceived as superior, hypocritical, or morally compromised. It arises from a sense of karmic restoration and the belief in justice being served.

      The feeling of pleasure we experience when witnessing the downfall of those we perceive as superior, hypocritical, or morally compromised, is a common human emotion known as Schadenfreude. The Amadeus film illustrates this concept through the character of Salieri, who envies Mozart's talent and ultimately brings about his downfall. In modern times, this emotion was evident in the public reaction to the scandals involving Jimmy Swaggart and Martha Stewart. Swaggart, a popular televangelist, was exposed for his moral hypocrisy, while Stewart was accused and convicted of insider trading. Despite the negative impact on their lives, many people felt a sense of pleasure and satisfaction in their downfall. Mina Chikara explains that this emotion arises from a sense of karmic restoration and the belief that justice has been served. It's important to note that this emotion can be directed towards various types of individuals, including the hypocritical, the greedy, the successful, and even the attractive.

    • Envy and Resentment Towards Successful IndividualsEnvy and resentment towards successful individuals are common emotions, leading to criticism and ostracism. These complex emotions can negatively impact individuals and relationships.

      The downfall of successful individuals, like Martha Stewart, can evoke feelings of envy and resentment in others, leading to criticism and even ostracism. According to the discussion, this behavior is not uncommon in human societies, with primatologist Christopher Beaum observing similar patterns in hunter-gatherer tribes. Envy and resentment are complex emotions that are often hidden, as people may feel inferior or unwilling to admit these feelings. These emotions can be challenging to study scientifically, but they have been noted to have negative effects on individuals and relationships. Therefore, it's essential to be aware of these emotions and strive to promote positivity and support for others' successes.

    • Pleasure from rivals' misfortune in sportsFans experience increased pleasure when their sports rivals suffer injuries or losses, regardless of impact on their own team, due to the power of the rivalry itself.

      Schadenfreude, the feeling of pleasure derived from another person's misfortune, is a powerful emotion that can be particularly strong in the context of sports rivalries. Research has shown that fans who are highly identified with their team experience increased pleasure when their rivals suffer injuries or losses, even if it doesn't benefit their own team in any material way. This pleasure is thought to be driven solely by the rivalry itself. Studies using functional MRI machines and facial electromyography have provided evidence for this phenomenon, suggesting that there is some positive affect being felt when witnessing a rival's suffering. While Schadenfreude is often considered a negative emotion, it is a common experience in sports and other areas of life, and understanding it can help us better understand human emotions and social dynamics.

    • People feel less empathy and even pleasure when bad things happen to outgroupsPeople may feel less empathy towards and even take pleasure in others' suffering when they perceive those individuals as low in status or competitive. This response, linked to activation in the ventral striatum, can predict aggressive behaviors towards the rival group.

      People's reactions to others, especially when they experience pleasure or pain, can reveal a lot about their feelings towards different groups. Research has shown that people tend to feel less empathy and even pleasure when bad things happen to outgroups that are perceived as low in status or competitive. This response is linked to activation in the ventral striatum, a part of the brain associated with pleasure. This pleasure response can predict aggressive behaviors towards the rival group. Malicious envy, a form of envy that stems from feelings of inferiority, can lead individuals to eliminate the source of their envy, potentially through harmful actions. Historically, this dynamic has been suggested to contribute to conflicts and even mass atrocities, such as the Holocaust, where a successful group's prosperity may have fueled envy and hostility from those feeling economically or socially inferior.

    • Last place aversion: The desire to avoid being at the bottomEnvy and the fear of being last can lead us to harm those perceived below us, even if it goes against our self-interest.

      Our emotions, particularly Envy and the desire to avoid being in the last place, can lead us to support or even take pleasure in the suffering of others, even if it goes against our own self-interest. This phenomenon is known as "last place aversion." It's a powerful psychological impulse that can drive individuals and groups to behave in destructive ways towards those perceived as below them in the social hierarchy. This dynamic can be seen in historical events, such as the treatment of Jews by the Nazis, and in modern phenomena, like reality TV shows that feature people in distress. Understanding this impulse can help us make sense of seemingly irrational behaviors and motivations.

    • Envy and Schadenfreude: Harmful Emotions in Politics and Human ConflictsAcknowledging and addressing envy and Schadenfreude can prevent harmful actions and destructive emotions.

      Envy and Schadenfreude, the feeling of pleasure in another's misfortune, can contribute to harmful actions and even lead to unspeakable acts. These emotions, often fueled by partisanship, have been observed in politics and human conflicts. Research is still ongoing to understand the extent to which the pleasure derived from Schadenfreude can lead to harm. A study showed college students with strong political party identification felt joy when their opposing party suffered, even in the case of military deaths. This phenomenon, while often dismissed as insignificant, can have serious consequences. Mina Chikara believes that envy and Schadenfreude can serve as a gateway to more destructive emotions. The story of Jessica, who experienced intense envy after being left behind during an emergency, illustrates the importance of acknowledging and addressing these emotions. By bringing envy into the light of day, Jessica was able to overcome it. The first step to fighting envy and Schadenfreude is to acknowledge their presence.

    • The value of tenacity and flexibilityPersevere and adapt for success in personal and professional pursuits. Share Hidden Brain to expand its reach.

      The importance of tenacity and flexibility in achieving success. Shankar Vedantam, the host of Hidden Brain, shared his experiences of working closely with Adam, the co-creator of the podcast. Through their conversations over the years, Shankar was consistently impressed by Adam's determination and adaptability. Shankar expressed his gratitude to Adam and encouraged listeners to share the podcast with others to expand its reach. Overall, this discussion emphasizes the value of perseverance and adaptability in personal and professional pursuits. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider sharing it with a friend.

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