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    Daybreak Weekend: The Double Dip, UK Housing, Korea Data, House Budget Battle

    enNovember 25, 2023

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    • Economic shifts and stock market performanceThe economy's state influences stock market performance, with a recession-like economy in 2022 causing poor returns. However, the economy's improvement led to a stock market rally, and the tech-heavy Nasdaq may face vulnerabilities with a potential economic deceleration.

      The economy and the stock market have seen significant shifts throughout the year, and the current state of both is crucial in determining the future performance of the markets. According to Bloomberg Intelligence's economic regime model, the economy was in a recession-like state in 2022, which coincided with poor equity market returns. However, as of January 2023, the model suggested that things were starting to improve, leading to a rally in stocks. Now, the model is indicating that the economy may have slowed down again in Q4, and certain segments of the earnings recovery could be vulnerable to a deceleration in the broader economy. The tech-heavy Nasdaq, which has outperformed the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average this year, may be particularly at risk. The ongoing inflation easing, strong corporate earnings, and the Federal Reserve's expected pause on interest rate hikes have contributed to the recent rally, but their sustainability remains uncertain. Overall, the economic and market conditions of the present will significantly influence the direction of the markets in the weeks and months ahead.

    • Consumer sectors face challenges during earnings seasonDespite lower gas prices and some job market weakness, consumer sentiment has deteriorated rapidly, impacting consumer staples and discretionary sectors. However, opportunities exist in communications, technology, and financials sectors.

      The equity market, specifically the consumer sectors, showed vulnerabilities during the 2022 earnings season, with consumer staples and discretionary being the worst performers. However, there are also strong sectors, such as communications, technology, and financials, which present opportunities. The consumer's sentiment has been deteriorating rapidly despite lower gas prices and some job market weakness, adding to the uncertainty in the market. The financial sector, particularly banks, is expected to benefit from rate expectations and yield curve steepening. It's important to navigate these vulnerabilities and identify opportunities as we approach the new year.

    • Consumer spending pulling back, but not crashingConsumers are cutting back on spending, but not stopping it completely. This can lead to earnings growth for companies, particularly in tech and small caps, as they focus on improving margins and cutting costs.

      While the consumer may not be experiencing the same level of spending as before, it doesn't necessarily mean they're crashing or stopping all spending. Instead, they may be pulling back incrementally, which can have significant impacts on certain sectors, particularly those with earnings sensitive to the overall growth outlook. The job market, which has been consistently good but showing some cracks, is where consumers are reacting. This can lead to companies cutting costs and improving margins, resulting in earnings growth, even in a decelerating economy. Sectors like information technology, which is fueled by AI, have been doing well and are expected to continue to do so. However, it's important to note that tech valuations have been high, so investors should be cautious. Another trend to watch is the improvement in net income margins in small caps, which is causing earnings growth in the Russell 2000 after a long period of scarcity. Overall, the focus for businesses is on improving their margins and cutting costs, rather than relying on revenue growth.

    • Tech sector trading above pre-pandemic levels, communication stocks cheapestTech giants like Apple, Microsoft, and Nvidia trade above 5-year averages, while communication firms Alphabet, Meta, Disney, and Netflix are cheaper. UK housing market experiences a slowdown with high mortgage rates and declining house prices, but not reaching doomsday predictions.

      The tech sector is the only part of the S&P 500 trading above its pre-pandemic norm, with communication stocks being the cheapest sector instead. Tech giants like Apple, Microsoft, and Nvidia are trading well above their pre-pandemic 5-year averages, while communication companies such as Alphabet, Meta, Disney, and Netflix are cheaper. This dichotomy is worth watching as we approach the end of the year. Additionally, the UK housing market is experiencing a slowdown, with mortgage rates remaining high but declining and house prices showing steady declines but not reaching doomsday predictions. Buyers are feeling priced out, while sellers are nervous about the value of their properties. Upcoming housing data should provide more insight into the direction of the market.

    • Housing market experiencing a 'slow puncture'Buyers and sellers disconnect causing falling house prices, overall economic position limiting significant declines, many homeowners on fixed-rate mortgages delaying impact of rising interest rates, Bank of England predicts around half monetary tightening felt, significant effects expected when fixed-term mortgages expire

      The housing market, a fundamental part of the UK economy, is experiencing a "slow puncture" in terms of falling house prices. This is due to a disconnect between buyers and sellers, with buyers expecting discounts and sellers reluctant to accept lower prices based on previous values. However, the overall economic position is holding back significant declines, as unemployment and labor market losses have not been as severe as expected following the pandemic. Additionally, many homeowners are on fixed-rate mortgages, not yet feeling the full impact of rising interest rates. The Bank of England predicts around half of its monetary tightening has been felt, with significant effects expected when fixed-term mortgages expire and people remortgage. Overall, the housing market is experiencing a period of adjustment, with various factors influencing the pace and severity of price declines.

    • London's affordability crisis leads to exodus of young rentersThe affordability crisis in London and the southeast is causing a significant exodus of young renters, negatively impacting the UK economy and posing challenges for businesses and the Conservative Party.

      The affordability issues in London and the southeast, particularly for young renters, are leading to a significant exodus of people from these areas, which has negative consequences for the UK economy. This trend is causing challenges for businesses trying to recruit younger workers, and it poses a dilemma for the Conservative Party as they try to maintain popularity among older voters who benefit from rising house prices. Meanwhile, the Bank of England is pushing for higher interest rates to be kept in place longer to anchor inflation expectations and avoid a self-sustaining inflation doom loop. These issues will continue to shape the economic landscape in the UK.

    • BOK may hold rates despite inflation and record-high debtThe BOK is expected to maintain its 3.5% interest rate amidst rising inflation and record-high household debt, as the potential risks of a property market crash and increased financial stress for households outweigh the benefits of higher rates.

      The Bank of Korea (BOK) is expected to maintain its current interest rate of 3.5% at an upcoming policy meeting, despite rising inflation and record-high household debt in South Korea. The BOK has been hawkish in its stance since August 2021, raising rates by approximately 300 basis points. However, with household debt continuing to escalate and the property market showing signs of instability, the BOK may opt to keep rates where they are rather than risking a potential crash in the property market or exacerbating financial stress for households. This decision comes as the South Korean economy continues to expand, with resilient labor markets and recovering exports. The challenge for the BOK will be striking a balance between addressing inflation and managing household debt while maintaining financial stability.

    • South Korean Government's Measures to Support Property MarketThe South Korean government's efforts to support the property market have boosted the economy but may lead to increased debt. Instead of making major changes through the Bank of Korea, the government may need to scale back some measures.

      The South Korean government's measures to support the property market have been successful but may now be contributing to debt. The government may need to scale back some of these measures instead of making significant changes through the Bank of Korea. South Korea, with its significant role in global trade, is experiencing improved export figures despite challenges from China and Europe. Exports helped lift GDP in the last quarter, and the IMF expects growth over 2% next year. The Korean won has been holding up well against the dollar, and if the Fed changes policy, the currency may strengthen slightly. President Yoon's recent visit to the UK marks the official start of free trade agreement negotiations between the two countries. While the UK had to quickly renegotiate trade agreements after leaving the EU, the existing conditions between South Korea and the UK are similar to those during EU membership.

    • UK-South Korea trade talks focus on critical technologiesThe UK and South Korea are prioritizing cooperation on AI, quantum computing, and semiconductors, with corporations increasing research funding in these areas.

      The latest round of negotiations between the UK and South Korea could provide more concrete signs of improved trade relations, which is crucial for the UK as they justify their departure from the EU. The focus of cooperation between the two sides is expected to be on critical technologies such as artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and semiconductors, with corporations announcing increased research funding in these areas. However, lawmakers returning from their Thanksgiving break in the US face a long to-do list, including funding deadlines for various agencies, which could lead to potential challenges and disagreements.

    • New Speaker of the House faces challenges in passing legislationDespite a narrow Republican majority, passing legislation without Democratic support is difficult for new Speaker Mike Johnson, particularly on spending bills and foreign aid. Negotiations on Ukraine and Israel funding continue, while immigration changes are a Senate Democratic sticking point. Public opposition to Israel funding adds to the uncertainty.

      The new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, faces significant challenges in passing legislation without Democratic support, particularly on spending bills and foreign aid. Johnson has stated he won't use continuing resolutions, but with a narrow Republican majority and conservative demands for deep spending cuts and policy changes, it remains unclear how he will navigate this issue. Additionally, negotiations on emergency funding for Ukraine and Israel are ongoing, and immigration changes are a sticking point for Senate Democrats. The outlook for passing legislation in the House is murky, and the ongoing debates over funding for Israel and Ukraine add to the uncertainty. The situation is further complicated by growing public opposition to continued funding for Israel and the potential for less support as polls indicate. The upcoming Qatar Economic Forum in Doha, where global leaders will gather, could provide opportunities for new connections and insights to help navigate these challenges.

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