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    Ep. 111 - Should Students Be Allowed To Sit During The Pledge Of Allegiance?

    enSeptember 26, 2018

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    • Balancing Individual Freedoms and Mandatory Requirements in EducationThe complexities of balancing individual freedoms and mandatory requirements in educational settings are highlighted in the ongoing dispute over a student's refusal to participate in the pledge of allegiance in Texas, involving questions of free speech rights, parental involvement, and potential racial motivation.

      Individual freedoms and mandatory requirements can clash, as seen in the ongoing dispute over a student's refusal to participate in the pledge of allegiance in Texas. The case of India Landry, who was expelled for not standing during the pledge, raises questions about free speech rights and the role of parents in making educational decisions. The Texas attorney general has intervened, arguing that students cannot unilaterally refuse to participate in the pledge, citing Supreme Court rulings on the symbolic importance of the flag. However, Landry's lawsuit alleges racial motivation and a violation of her free speech rights. This situation highlights the complexities of balancing individual freedoms with mandatory requirements in educational settings. Additionally, the speaker shared a personal anecdote about feeling isolated when sick and the comparisons and judgments that can arise in such situations.

    • Speaker opposes mandatory pledge of allegiance in schoolsSpeaker argues pledge is empty ritual, disagrees with 'one nation, indivisible', and believes it was written by a socialist. Main concern is its mandatory nature and lack of impact on patriotism.

      The speaker is not a fan of the mandatory pledge of allegiance in public schools. He argues that it is an empty ritual and does not instill patriotism in children. Additionally, he disagrees with the phrase "one nation, indivisible," believing that states should have the right to secede. The speaker also mentions that the pledge was originally written by a socialist, adding to his opposition to it. However, he acknowledges that he may be able to win back some conservatives with his second point, which is the idea of states' rights. Overall, the speaker's main issue is the mandatory nature of the pledge and his belief that it does not have the intended effect of increasing patriotism.

    • Respecting Authority in SchoolChildren should respect and obey school authorities to foster discipline, order, and responsible behavior.

      Children in school should be required to show respect and obedience to authority figures, such as teachers and school administrators. The speaker argues that this is important for maintaining order and discipline in the classroom, and that parents play a role in reinforcing this idea by supporting the authority of school staff. The speaker also emphasizes that this does not mean that children are being forced to express false patriotism, but rather that they are expected to respect the rules and expectations of their educational environment. Ultimately, the speaker believes that this sense of obedience and respect for authority is essential for helping children grow into responsible and well-behaved adults.

    • Children's speech rights are limited in school and at homeChildren don't have the same free speech rights as adults, they must follow rules and expectations set by parents or teachers.

      Children do not have unrestricted free speech rights in school or at home. They are under the authority of their parents or teachers, and as such, they are required to follow rules and expectations set by those in charge. This is particularly true in a school setting, where students are attending a government institution. While children may have some freedoms, they do not have the same rights as adults, and their actions must align with the rules and expectations of their environment. Parents play a crucial role in reinforcing this idea and supporting their children's education by ensuring they follow rules and respect authority figures.

    • Children's Rights vs. Adults' RightsChildren lack legal responsibilities and own nothing, thus they don't have all the same rights as adults. Parents and teachers have the authority to set rules and enforce consequences.

      Children do not have the same rights as adults and are expected to listen and obey their parents and teachers. The speaker emphasizes that children have no legal responsibilities and own nothing, and as a result, they do not have all the same rights. The use of the First Amendment as a justification for disrespectful speech towards family members is deemed irrelevant, and children are punished when they violate the rules set by their parents. The speaker argues that if schools allowed children to say and do whatever they want without consequences, the school system would not be able to function effectively. Therefore, it is essential for parents to instill the importance of listening and obeying authority figures in their children.

    • Respecting rules and authority in schoolStudents should comply with teachers' requests, respect rules, and engage in academic discussions while maintaining respect for authority figures.

      When sending children to school, parents should be prepared for teachers having authority and expect their children to follow rules and instructions. The speaker believes that academic discussions and expressing opinions are valuable, but ultimately, students should comply with teachers' requests as long as they are not immoral or illegal. Regarding the topic of the pledge of allegiance, the speaker suggests that it can be discussed and debated, but students should still participate out of respect for the rules. Expelling a student for refusing to participate, according to the speaker, could be extreme but may be necessary if the student has been given numerous chances and continues to disobey. Overall, the speaker emphasizes the importance of respecting the rules and authority figures in a school setting.

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