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    Ep. 135 | 2 Bears 1 Cave w/ Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer

    enMay 30, 2022

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    • Discovering affordable wireless plans onlineSave money on wireless plans by buying directly from companies like Mint Mobile instead of retail stores.

      It's possible to save significantly on wireless plans by cutting out retail stores and buying online from companies like Mint Mobile. This was a surprising discovery during the conversation, as the interlocutors initially assumed there must be a catch to the seemingly too-good-to-be-true offer of $15 a month plans. However, after learning about Mint Mobile's business model, they were convinced of its legitimacy. Another intriguing topic that emerged during the conversation was the influence of Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist and popular podcast guest, on modern culture. Despite not knowing much about him, they admired his ability to challenge and provoke, even if they didn't always agree with his views. Overall, the conversation showcased the power of questioning assumptions and being open to new information.

    • Speaker's apathetic attitude towards certain issuesThe speaker finds amusement in controversial topics, including transgender athletes in sports, and struggles to invest in current events unless they have a strong opinion.

      The speaker expresses a lack of concern or interest in certain issues, particularly regarding transgender athletes in sports. They find it amusing that some people are upset about the situation and seem to enjoy the controversy. The speaker also mentions their enjoyment of gossip and their difficulty getting invested in current events unless they have a strong opinion on the matter. They share an example of becoming obsessed with learning about Putin, but admit that they often veer off topic and get distracted. Overall, the speaker's perspective is that they don't care about many things and find enjoyment in the unexpected or controversial.

    • The Importance of Preparation and AwarenessBeing unprepared and unaware can negatively impact reputation and relationships, emphasizing the need to challenge assumptions and strive for greater understanding.

      Preparation and awareness are crucial in various situations, whether it's for a presentation, social media, or even personal knowledge. The conversation between the speakers highlights the importance of being informed and mindful of one's actions and words, especially when they may have unintended consequences. The speakers' lack of preparation and awareness led to misunderstandings and confusion, demonstrating how being unprepared can negatively impact one's reputation and relationships. Additionally, the conversation touched on the topic of racism and biases, emphasizing the need to challenge our first impressions and assumptions. Overall, the conversation serves as a reminder to take things seriously, do our homework, and strive for greater understanding and awareness.

    • Navigating cultural differences and racismBe aware of biases and assumptions, strive for understanding and respect towards all, and be open-minded and empathetic.

      People have different ways of responding to cultural differences and experiences of racism. Some may choose to ignore or not engage, while others may speak out or take action. The conversation also highlighted the complexity of navigating racial dynamics and the potential for unintentional insensitivity. It's important to be aware of our own biases and assumptions, and to strive for understanding and respect towards people of all backgrounds. The quiz mentioned in the conversation, while intended to be provocative, ultimately reinforces the need for open-mindedness and empathy.

    • Understanding the Complexities of IdentityOur perception of racism and identity is influenced by societal norms, personal experiences, and quizzes. People are multifaceted and their actions don't define them entirely.

      Our perception of racism and identity can be influenced by various factors, including societal norms, personal experiences, and even quizzes designed to label us. The discussion also highlighted the complexity of identity and how it can be shaped by our past and upbringing, as exemplified by Woody Guthrie's case. The curiosity about Bill Clinton's use of the N-word shows how intrigued we are by the revelation of hidden truths, but it's important to remember that people are multifaceted, and their actions don't necessarily define them entirely. The case of John Wayne Gacy illustrates the intricacy of human behavior and how it can be influenced by various factors, including sexuality and mental health. Overall, the conversation underscores the importance of understanding the complexities of identity and avoiding simplistic labels.

    • Serial killers with distinct patterns are more likely to be caughtSerial killers who minimize patterns in their choice of victims and methods can evade detection, but even the most careful killers can be caught due to mistakes or carelessness. Discussing potential crimes or victims publicly can be dangerous and glorifying or joking about violence is harmful.

      Serial killers who maintain distinct patterns in their choice of victims and methods of killing are more likely to be caught due to advancements in forensics and technology. To evade detection, a potential serial killer should minimize patterns by targeting victims in different areas and making the killings seem unrelated. However, even the most meticulous killers can be caught due to carelessness or mistakes. It's important to remember that discussing potential crimes or victims on public platforms can be dangerous and potentially incriminating. Additionally, it's crucial to understand that glorifying or joking about violence can be harmful and trivializes the suffering of victims and their families.

    • Serial killing: A calculated and deliberate actSerial killers carefully choose their targets, plan the crime, and derive satisfaction from the experience

      Serial killing involves deep-seated hatred and a specific plan. The speaker expresses that the urge to kill someone up close and personal with bare hands requires a significant amount of anger towards the intended victim. Serial killers often choose their targets carefully, considering factors like location, gender, and appearance. They may follow their victims for an extended period to learn their routines and habits. The act itself is not just about the kill, but also about the experience and the satisfaction of carrying out the plan. The speaker also mentions that the climate plays a role in the crime, as warmer temperatures can make it harder to cover up evidence. Ultimately, serial killing is a calculated and deliberate act, requiring both planning and execution.

    • Misunderstandings and dangerous consequences in text messages and group textsClear communication is crucial in text messages and group texts to avoid misunderstandings and potential dangerous consequences. Be mindful of sensitive topics and recognize the potential for misinterpretation and unintended consequences.

      Communication can lead to misunderstandings and unintended consequences, especially when it comes to text messages and group texts. Comedian Joey Diaz has a strict no-texting policy, but despite this, he has been angered by group texts where he was not the initial sender. The potential for misinterpretation is high, as demonstrated by an incident where Joey thought someone was sharing his number without permission, leading him to threaten violence. Additionally, the speaker in the conversation expressed concerns about recognizing people on their kill list when they go to their homes, highlighting the potential for dangerous misunderstandings and the importance of clear communication. The conversation also touched on the topic of racial bias and the potential consequences of making insensitive comments or actions. Overall, the conversation underscores the importance of clear communication and the potential risks of misunderstandings, especially in the context of text messages and sensitive topics.

    • Unexpected consequences of group texts and emailsBe mindful when sending group texts and emails to avoid unintended consequences. Double-check recipients and information before hitting send.

      Group texts and emails can lead to unexpected consequences, especially when people are accidentally included or excluded. In the discussed story, Joey was accidentally added to a group text and reacted angrily, while another time, a booking email was accidentally sent to over 170 people instead of a select few. These incidents led to various reactions, from humor to anger, and highlighted the importance of double-checking before sending messages. The story also shows how technology can bring people together in unexpected ways, leading to a sense of community and connection, even in seemingly mundane situations like group texts or emails about availability. It's a reminder to be mindful of our actions in the digital world and to embrace the unexpected connections that can arise from them.

    • The power of unexpected connections through communicationUnexpected conversations through emails or other means can lead to meaningful connections and inspire us to pursue our goals and prioritize our relationships

      The power of connection and communication, even through seemingly insignificant means like group emails, can bring people together and create lasting bonds. The speaker shared a story about an email thread that revived after a few months, and how he sent an email he was unsure about, only to have it not send due to an unknown recipient. He joked about wanting a clone or an older brother, and the conversation shifted to the inspiring figure Jesse Itzler, who started a jet company and co-founded Marquis Jets. The speaker expressed admiration for Itzler's ability to pursue various ventures and prioritize family. Despite the random and sometimes nonsensical conversation, the underlying theme of connection and communication remained consistent.

    • Investing in experiences and relationshipsSuccessful people prioritize long-term investments in meaningful experiences and relationships, leading to joy, growth, and significant returns.

      Successful people think long-term and invest in experiences and relationships that bring them joy and growth. This was exemplified in the story of the speaker's friend, who made a significant investment in securing a business deal by buying a jet for a client, and in turn, received a larger return. The speaker also shared a personal anecdote about realizing the importance of cherishing time with loved ones, and making investments in experiences that deepen those relationships. The friend's perspective on life, which emphasized the value of investing in meaningful experiences and relationships, had a profound impact on the speaker. Additionally, the friend's approach to life, which involved taking calculated risks and focusing on the long-term, resonated with the speaker's own aspirations and goals. Overall, the discussion underscored the importance of having a growth mindset, focusing on the long-term, and making investments in experiences and relationships that bring joy and fulfillment.

    • Exploring Comedy and Controversy with Bert KreischerBert Kreischer discussed his comedic process, addressing a controversial joke and joking about race, while acknowledging the importance of excitement and intentional spending.

      Comedian Bert Kreischer discussed his comedic process, including a controversial joke he couldn't tell due to potential backlash. He also shared his thoughts on race, joking about killing different races each week to avoid patterns, leading to accusations of insensitivity. Additionally, they talked about his spending habits, revealing he's comfortable spending money on experiences for others but struggles with treating himself. Kreischer acknowledged the importance of being excited about treats and not just spending money aimlessly. Overall, the conversation touched on the complexities of comedy, race, and personal finance.

    • Upgrading travel experienceInvesting in a better travel experience can add excitement and create memorable moments, even if it means spending extra money

      Sometimes it's worth the investment to upgrade your travel experience, even if it means spending extra money. This was a lesson learned by the speaker during a conversation with his business manager while en route to London. Initially hesitant to spend thousands of dollars on a first-class ticket, the speaker was persuaded by the idea that the expense was a business expense, as he was traveling to work. Reflecting on past experiences, the speaker shared fond memories of flying first class and how it added an element of indulgence and excitement to his travels. Despite initial reluctance, the speaker ultimately decided to surprise his friends with a spontaneous trip to Europe, only to encounter resistance from them. However, the speaker's enthusiasm and desire to create memorable experiences ultimately won out, and he was able to secure tickets for himself and his team to travel in style. The experience reinforced the idea that sometimes, it's worth the investment to upgrade your travel experience, even if it means going against the norm or spending a little extra money.

    • Unexpected adventures and spontaneitySometimes, unexpected events can lead to fun and spontaneous adventures, even when plans don't go as intended.

      The speaker's approach to fun and spontaneity is different from others. He had planned a surprise event for his parents but had to cancel it due to a mix-up with his travel arrangements. Instead of being upset, he saw it as an opportunity to have a fun and unplanned adventure. He enjoys calculated and well-planned experiences, while his friend seems to thrive on last-minute, chaotic situations. The conversation also touched on various topics, including their different parenting styles, their late-night antics, and the speaker's vision of his friend's life. Despite the chaos, the speaker expressed happiness and excitement about the unexpected turn of events.

    • Gainesville Ripper and Richard Jewell's JournalistThe Gainesville Ripper's gruesome crimes and the journalist's portrayal in 'Richard Jewell' were discussed, with admiration for Paul Walter Hauser's performance and criticism of the journalist's actions.

      The discussion revolved around two distinct but related topics: the Gainesville Ripper case and the portrayal of a journalist in the movie "Richard Jewell." The speaker shared details about the Gainesville Ripper's crimes, describing him as an unassuming man who mutilated and decapitated victims, all of whom were petite white brunettes. They also mentioned the journalist in Atlanta who was portrayed as a whore in the movie, ruining Richard Jewell's reputation despite her actions. The speaker expressed their admiration for Paul Walter Hauser's portrayal of Richard Jewell in the movie. The conversation also included some misremembered details and off-topic discussions, but the main focus was on these two topics.

    • Josh Rowan's complicated relationship with alcoholJosh Rowan celebrates sobriety but still struggles with temptation to drink, especially when bored. He prefers cocktails, but avoids drinking before shows or important commitments.

      The speaker, Josh Rowan, has a complex relationship with alcohol. He celebrates eight years of sobriety but still struggles with the temptation to drink, especially when he has nothing to do. He prefers cocktails and enjoys them, but only when he doesn't have commitments. The speaker also mentions that he cannot drink before a show or when he has something important to do. He acknowledges the challenges of performing comedy and the potential legal issues with certain jokes, which may require him to modify or remove them. Overall, the speaker's relationship with alcohol is a constant consideration in his life, and he is aware of the need to balance his desire for a drink with his responsibilities and commitments.

    • Refining Stand-Up Material Through Touring and Netflix SpecialsShorter sets with strong openings and consistent delivery can lead to better audience engagement and retention. Fanbase response influences comedian's performance, with meaner and harder jokes often receiving more enthusiasm.

      Comedian Dave Chappelle shared his experience of refining his stand-up material through touring and performing for Netflix specials. He discovered that shorter sets with strong openings and consistent delivery can lead to better audience engagement and retention. Chappelle also mentioned the impact of his fanbase on his performances, revealing that they tend to respond more enthusiastically to meaner and harder jokes. Additionally, he shared an anecdote about Netflix's algorithm favoring his shorter closers and how he has since adapted his material accordingly.

    • Two individuals and potential lawsuitsSpeakers discussed two individuals and potential lawsuits, using metaphors and humor to describe the situation, emphasizing the importance of addressing legal issues while maintaining a light-hearted tone.

      That there were two concerns regarding potential lawsuits mentioned, but the specific details could not be shared publicly. The speakers used metaphors and humor to describe the situation, comparing two individuals to "Tom and Bert," with one being the storyteller and the other the machine. They warned that keeping the situation clean was unlikely. The conversation also touched upon the freedom to use humor, even if it was considered dirty or raunchy, and the use of metaphors or analogies to describe complex situations. The speakers emphasized that no scripts had been abused and that they were not making apologies for their humor. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of addressing potential legal issues while maintaining a light-hearted and humorous tone.

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