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    Ep 145 IVF, Part 3: Industry

    enJuly 09, 2024

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    • IVF ChallengesDespite numerous setbacks and unexpected obstacles, advocating for one's own health and persevering through the complexities of IVF treatments can lead to valuable lessons and important discoveries.

      Infertility treatments, specifically IVF, can be a long and challenging journey filled with unexpected obstacles. Kate Winkler-Dawson and Paul Holes, hosts of the Buried Bones podcast, shared their personal experience of undergoing IVF treatments for over a decade. They encountered numerous setbacks, including weight restrictions, age concerns, and overlooked sperm quality issues. Diana, one half of the couple, was initially denied treatment due to her weight, leading her to waste a decade of her fertility. They eventually discovered the root cause of their infertility was high DNA fragmentation in Paul's sperm, which they advocated for and eventually tested for. Their journey involved extensive research, multiple clinics, and countless treatments. Despite the challenges, they learned valuable lessons about the fertility industry and the importance of advocating for one's own health. They also emphasized the importance of sharing their story to help others going through similar experiences feel less alone. Another guest, Erin, shared her experience of undergoing IVF as a single woman and encountering unexpected challenges, including discovering that her donor was a carrier for rare diseases not included in standard carrier screens. Overall, their stories highlight the complexities and uncertainties of infertility treatments and the importance of perseverance and advocacy.

    • IVF challengesThe IVF process can be emotionally, physically, and financially demanding, involving numerous tests, medications, and procedures, but many individuals find success and are grateful for the opportunity to build their families.

      IVF, or In Vitro Fertilization, has transformed from a novel innovation to a common industry, with many people turning to it for help in starting a family. The journey of IVF can be emotionally, physically, and financially taxing, involving numerous tests, medications, and procedures. Melissa's story illustrates the challenges and disappointments that some individuals face during the IVF process, as well as the potential hope that comes with each new attempt. Sarah's story highlights the importance of community and family in navigating the complexities of fertility treatment. Despite the challenges, many people find success through IVF and are grateful for the opportunity to build their families. The landscape of IVF continues to evolve, with ongoing debates about access, regulation, and ethics.

    • IVF RegulationThe lack of regulation in the US IVF industry has led to varying live birth rates among clinics, with some reporting as low as 0%, and ongoing debates about access, innovation, and ethical considerations

      As technological advancements like In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) continue to evolve, ethical considerations and questions of regulation follow closely behind. IVF, a powerful technology that has enabled millions to fulfill their dreams of having children, also carries substantial ethical implications. While the US has attempted to regulate IVF, it has not been as successful as in other countries. The industry's growth and lack of regulation have led to varying live birth rates among clinics, with some reporting as low as 0%. The fear of exploitation and a scandal in the 1980s ultimately led to the first major piece of regulation, the Fertility Clinic Success Rate and Certification Act of 1992, which required clinics to be transparent about their procedure success rates. However, it's unclear how these rates are communicated to clients and what they include. The regulatory landscape of IVF is complex and continually evolving, with ongoing debates about access, innovation, and ethical considerations.

    • IVF regulations and accessibilityDespite regulations, IVF remains a market-driven enterprise with opportunities for exploitation and ethical debates due to global variations in laws and access, potential for clinic manipulation, and advancements in technology.

      The regulation and accessibility of In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) practices vary greatly both within and across countries, leading to complex ethical and societal debates. While there are regulations in place to protect consumers and enforce reporting requirements, there are still opportunities for exploitation and abuse. IVF is a market-driven enterprise, and clinics may manipulate results to stand out from the competition. The lack of clear consequences for non-reporting clinics and the potential for litigation as a reactive measure leaves room for misuse. Global variations in laws regarding surrogacy, egg and sperm donation, and age cutoffs have led to fertility tourism, where people travel to other countries for reproductive care. Access to IVF is a significant issue, with economic, insurance, and geographic barriers disproportionately impacting marginalized communities. The ethical implications of recent technological advancements, such as gene editing, further complicate the landscape of IVF.

    • IVF ethicsIVF raises important ethical questions around posthumous reproduction, gene editing, and emotional taxation, requiring self-reflection, listening, learning, and asking questions

      IVF, a complex and constantly evolving technology, holds immense potential for creating families and expanding our definitions of what a family can be. However, its use raises important ethical questions and challenges, particularly around issues like posthumous reproduction and gene editing. IVF is a costly and emotionally taxing process, as illustrated by the personal stories shared. Despite the advances and increasing accessibility of IVF, there is still much to learn and consider. As individuals, we can engage in self-reflection, listen, learn, and ask questions to better understand the potential future of IVF and its implications for individuals and society.

    • Infertility industry disparitiesHalf of all infertile individuals globally don't receive any medical care, and there's a wide range of ART usage in the US, with significant disparities between states and regions. Technological advancements have improved IVF, but not all add-ons have solid evidence supporting their effectiveness, and cost and regulation vary widely.

      The infertility industry is vast, with significant disparities in access to treatment both within and outside of the US. Approximately half of all infertile individuals globally do not receive any medical care. The US sees a wide range of ART usage, with Puerto Rico having only 0.4% of births coming from ART, while Massachusetts had 5%. Technological advancements in IVF have been substantial, including ICSI, blastocyst transfer, and single embryo transfer. However, not all add-on procedures have solid evidence supporting their effectiveness, such as assisted hatching, which uses a laser to create a crack in the blastocyst to aid implantation but lacks strong evidence for its benefits. The cost and regulation of these add-ons vary widely, and insurance coverage is often limited to standard cycles of IVF. It's crucial for individuals considering these treatments to be well-informed and consult reliable sources for the most up-to-date and accurate information.

    • PGT ethical implicationsPGT is used for testing embryos for genetic disorders and aneuploidies, but its standardization and effectiveness are still under debate. Ethical considerations, including sex selection, should also be taken into account.

      While pre-implantation genetic testing (PGT) is a commonly used add-on in IVF procedures, it is not yet a standard practice and comes with potential false positives and false negatives. PGT is used to test embryos for aneuploidies, monogenic disorders, and structural rearrangements. The most common type, PGT-A, tests for aneuploidies and is still considered experimental, with no proven improvement in live birth outcomes. The technology used in PGT is not yet advanced enough to offer it as a standard practice across the board. PGT-M and PGT-SR, which test for monogenic disorders and structural rearrangements respectively, have different utilization and success rates due to the specific population they serve. These tests are offered to individuals or couples with a high chance of passing on a known genetic disorder or recurrent miscarriage. The ethical implications of these technologies are also worth considering, as they can be used for sex selection. Policies regarding the acceptability of sex selection vary from country to country.

    • IVF ethical questionsIVF advancements raise ethical questions regarding human rights, societal norms, and access to these technologies, with potential implications for gene editing, HLA selection, and mitochondrial transfer.

      The advancements in reproductive technology, specifically In Vitro Fertilization (IVF), have opened up new possibilities for individuals and society as a whole, but also raise important ethical questions. IVF has been used in the past for selecting embryos with specific HLA genotypes to save the lives of children with severe diseases through transplants. The technology continues to evolve with potential advancements like mitochondrial transfer, in vitro gametogenesis, and gene editing through CRISPR. These developments stretch the limits of imagination and force societies to confront ethical implications and regulations. Access to these technologies and who decides that access is granted are also significant issues. IVF, like many other technological advancements, raises questions about human rights, societal norms, and the role of technology in our lives.

    • Podcast website resourcesThe podcast website offers a wealth of information on each episode's topics, including reports from the CDC and studies, for listeners to explore further.

      Learning from this podcast episode is the wealth of information available on the topics discussed, which can be found on the podcast's website, thispodwilldeyou.com. The website hosts a comprehensive list of sources for each episode, including reports from the CDC and studies on pre-implantation genetic diagnoses. The podcast team expresses their gratitude to their collaborators, listeners, and patrons, and hints at future content on pregnancy. They also encourage feedback from their audience to ensure they're not overwhelming with too much content. Lastly, they remind everyone to wash their hands.

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