Podcast Summary
Exploring the unknown: Both Siemens and Blurry Creatures offer opportunities to explore the unknown through technology and spirituality, inviting individuals to be part of something larger than themselves.
Both Siemens and the speakers at Blurry Creatures invite individuals to be part of something bigger, whether it's transforming the everyday through technology or exploring the unknown through spirituality and imagination. Siemens offers a tangible opportunity to make an impact through engineering solutions and innovation, while Blurry Creatures offers a more intangible but still meaningful experience through fellowship and exploration of ideas. The speakers at Blurry Creatures also share a fascination with the unknown, whether it's the existence of other intelligent life or the mysteries of the Bible. Overall, both Siemens and Blurry Creatures offer opportunities for individuals to be a part of something larger than themselves and to explore new ideas and perspectives.
Nature of the Universe and Spiritual Beings: The speaker argues for recognizing spiritual beings as part of the natural universe, subject to its laws, rather than as supernatural entities existing above or beyond it.
During a conversation about their new board game, "Galactic War and Cosmic Geography," the group discussed their perspectives on the nature of the universe and the concept of the supernatural. The speaker believes that everything in the universe, including spiritual beings, is subject to the same laws of physics and exists within the same boundaries. He also believes in a plurality of realms, rather than a spiritual and physical realm. The speaker argues against the use of the term "supernatural," as it implies something existing above or beyond nature, which he sees as an unbiblical concept. Instead, he suggests making a distinction between the spiritual and the natural, with the spiritual being a form of existence that may be different from embodied matter but still subject to the laws of the universe.
Cosmic and Spiritual Realms: The cosmic and spiritual realms are interconnected, with God creating order in both. The fall in Genesis disrupted this order, and the concept of heaven as a distant realm is unbiblical. Angels use technology and theology should be done in community.
According to our discussion, God is the creator of order within the universe, and everything else abides by the laws of nature. The terms "galactic," "cosmic," "supernatural," and "spiritual" can be used interchangeably to describe the universe as a whole, encompassing both the physical and spiritual realms. The fall in Genesis represents a fundamental breakdown in the known cosmic reality. The concept of heaven being a far-off distant realm is unbiblical, and instead, it is a return to the cosmic mountain, which is Eden. The distinction between cosmic and spiritual is not a difference with a distinction, and both can coexist. The practical situations in the biblical narrative, such as Michael's encounter with the Prince of Persia, demonstrate that there is a distance and resistance to traversing from one place to another. Angels use technology, and this is not just for symbolic gestures but for practical purposes. Theology should always be done in the context of community, where differing perspectives can challenge and expand our understanding.
Angels and their depictions in ancient texts: Angels, as spiritual beings, use advanced technology and do not fly on horses or chariots as depicted in ancient texts. They may have embodied forms and engage in activities like eating, drinking, and writing. Ancient texts should be understood in their historical context and not taken literally.
The speaker believes that angels, as spiritual beings, use advanced technology and do not fly on horses or chariots as depicted in ancient texts. Instead, these descriptions should be seen as allegorical or symbolic. The speaker also believes that spiritual beings, such as angels, may have embodied forms and may engage in activities like eating, drinking, and writing. The ancient texts should be understood in the context of the time they were written and the limited knowledge and understanding of the authors. The purpose of these texts is not to provide scientific information, but rather to communicate the story of God's desire to reunite with His family through His son, Jesus.
Jesus as the prototype of new humanity: Jesus' resurrection signifies God's plan to restore humanity to its original state, granting extraordinary capabilities and reunifying cosmic and earthly families.
Jesus, as the unique Son of God, is the prototype of the new humanity and the reunifier of God's cosmic and earthly families. The discussions revolve around the corporeality of the risen Christ, the significance of the descriptions of Jesus' risen body, and the cosmic geography of battles between princes in texts like Daniel 8, 9, and 10. The ultimate goal is God's reclamation of the earth and the reunification of His family. The resurrection of Christ is seen as a reset to the blueprint of Adam before the fall, restoring the extraordinary capabilities and telepathic communication lost after the fall. The intrinsic immortality of God and the conditional immortality of humans and angels are also touched upon.
Angelic limitations: Angels, though immortal, can still face consequences and limitations in cosmic warfare. Humanity's unconditional immortality is tied to Christ's return, and angels have roles and transformations in Revelation. Potential issues for angels include curiosity and lust, leading to hybrid beings.
While immortal beings like angels may not die in the traditional sense, they can still experience consequences and limitations in the cosmic warfare they are involved in. The discussion also touched upon the idea that humanity's unconditional immortality is reserved for when Christ returns, and the resurrected body of Jesus being both ends, not an either or. Another intriguing point was the transformation of Eden from a garden to a city in Revelation, and the role and functionality of angels. Curiosity gone wrong and the potential for raging lust were identified as potential issues for angels, leading to the creation of hybrid beings. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of exploring theological ideas in a flexible and thoughtful manner, acknowledging the limited knowledge we have on these topics.
Divine Council Rebellion: The creation of Adam was a response to a catastrophic event in the divine council, possibly a galactic rebellion, and mankind was seen as necessary to renew the earth and establish a new governor.
The creation of Adam was a response to a catastrophic event in the divine council, likely a galactic rebellion. This theory, while not explicitly stated in the Bible, is based on the interpretation of certain verses and the role of the divine council in Old Testament texts. The creation of mankind was seen as necessary to renew the earth and establish a new governor. The name Rahab, which appears in the Old Testament, is believed to represent the renegade prince leading this rebellion, although his identity is not explicitly named in the scriptures.
Cosmic war, pre-existent timeline: The Bible's references to ancient conflicts and entities may hint at a pre-existent cosmic war and add depth to our understanding of the biblical narrative, with some theories suggesting Rahab was a planet in our solar system's asteroid belt that was destroyed in this war.
The Bible contains numerous references to ancient conflicts and entities, such as Rahab and the dragon, which are often described in bellicose terms and associated with rebellion and chaos. These references may hint at a pre-existent timeline and cosmic war that occurred before the creation of mankind. Some theories suggest that Rahab was a planet located in our solar system's asteroid belt, and that this war resulted in its destruction. These ideas offer a new perspective on the opening sentences of Genesis and add depth to our understanding of the biblical narrative.
Ancient myth of Tiamet/Rahab: The ancient myth of Tiamet/Rahab from Mesopotamian mythology is referenced in the Bible as a cataclysmic event where the Lord quelled a rebellion of gods, establishing his supremacy over the universe. Symbolism of Edom/Mars may be involved.
The ancient myth of Tiamet or Rahab from Mesopotamian mythology represents a chaotic origin story of creation, which is depicted as a cataclysmic event in the Bible. This event, which involved the destruction of rebellious gods and the establishment of the Lord's supremacy, is referenced in various psalms and is seen as a galactic war that occurred before the creation of mankind. The Bible portrays the Lord as the king who quelled this insurrection and established his rule over the universe. The symbolism of Edom, an ancient enemy of Israel associated with the color red and Esau, may also be a reference to Mars, further emphasizing the cosmic nature of this event.