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    Ep. 40 - Two People Fired For Not Serving A Black Customer After Closing

    enMay 31, 2018

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    • Two Instances of Employees Being Fired for Refusing ServiceIt's essential to examine the details of situations before jumping to conclusions, as both the Starbucks and bakery cases illustrate. The Starbucks manager followed company policy, while the bakery employees followed store hours, but both were misconstrued due to a lack of full understanding of the facts.

      It's important to understand the full context of situations before jumping to conclusions. In the recent news, there have been two instances of employees being fired for refusing to serve customers. The first, which gained widespread attention, involved a Starbucks manager in Philadelphia who asked two black men to leave or buy something, leading to their removal and public criticism. However, the second incident at Portland's Back to Eden bakery had a different outcome. In this case, the employees were fired for closing the store and refusing to serve a black woman after hours. The customers in question were the last ones in the store and had been informed of this, but Lillian Green, the black woman, accused the store of racism upon being denied service. It's crucial to examine the details of each situation and avoid making assumptions based on headlines alone. In the Starbucks case, the manager was following company policy, while in the bakery case, the employees were following store hours. Both situations were misconstrued due to a lack of full understanding of the facts.

    • Impact can outweigh intentUnderstanding individuals' experiences is crucial, even if actions weren't intended to be discriminatory. Public opinion can have significant consequences.

      The feelings and perceptions of individuals, particularly those who feel discriminated against, hold significant weight in today's society. In the discussed incident, a bakery employee's denial of service after hours led to public outrage, resulting in the termination of two employees, despite the owner's belief that they had no racist intentions. The owner acknowledged that impact can sometimes outweigh intent and that accountability is necessary. This situation underscores the importance of sensitivity and understanding towards individuals' experiences, even if the actions may not have been intentionally discriminatory. The incident also highlights the power of public opinion and the potential consequences it can have on individuals and businesses.

    • Miscommunications are a shared responsibilityEffective communication requires clear and honest speech from the speaker and accurate interpretation from the listener. Miscommunications should not lead to blame, but rather an opportunity for clarification.

      Effective communication relies on a harmony between what is said, what is meant, and how it is heard. However, if there is a misalignment between these factors, it is the responsibility of the person interpreting the message to understand that the miscommunication lies with them, not the speaker. This was discussed in the context of recent controversies involving businesses and their interpretations of laws and social norms. The speaker emphasized that clear and honest communication is the responsibility of the speaker, and it is up to the listener to accurately interpret and understand the message. Miscommunications and misunderstandings should not result in blame or consequences for the speaker, but rather an opportunity for the listener to reflect on their own understanding and seek clarification.

    • Effective communication requires effort from both partiesListeners should clarify misunderstandings and apologize for misconstruing messages, while speakers should strive for clear and accurate communication

      Effective communication is a two-way street, and both parties involved have a responsibility to ensure clarity and understanding. The speaker has the obligation to convey their message clearly and accurately, while the listener must make an effort to comprehend the intended meaning. In the discussed scenario, the speaker argued that if their message was clear, and any misinterpretation or offense taken was due to the listener's misunderstanding, then an apology from the listener was warranted. However, it's crucial to remember that feelings do not dictate the facts of a situation. In this case, the store being closed and the communication of that fact were the only relevant elements. The feelings of the person being communicated to are not the speaker's responsibility to manage. Misunderstandings and offenses can occur, but the onus is on the listener to clarify any confusion and apologize for misconstruing the intended message.

    • Assumptions in communication can lead to misinterpretationsAvoid making unreasonable assumptions about others' intentions to ensure effective communication

      Effective communication relies on reasonable interpretations of behaviors and statements. Miscommunication often arises when people assume they have the right to impose unreasonable interpretations on others. For instance, if someone says "hello" and another person assumes it's an insult against their mother, that's an unreasonable interpretation. Similarly, if someone says it's raining outside but another person believes the speaker meant it's sunny, and they get drenched, it's not the speaker's fault. The speaker did their job by communicating accurately. However, in cases where a statement is clearly offensive or racist, like Roseanne's tweet about a black woman being the love child of the Muslim brotherhood and an ape, it's reasonable for others to interpret it as such. Ultimately, it's essential to strive for clear and reasonable communication, and avoid making unfounded assumptions about others' intentions.

    • Being mindful of racist undertones in languageClear racist language, even if unintended, is still offensive. Be intentional with words to avoid misunderstandings and unintended consequences.

      It's important to be mindful of the words we use and the meanings behind them. In the discussion, it was highlighted that making a statement with clear racist undertones, even if the speaker claims it was not meant that way, is still problematic. Comparing someone to a character from "Planet of the Apes" is a racist statement, and attempting to retract it or change the meaning later does not make it any less offensive. It's crucial to be clear and intentional with our language to avoid misunderstandings and unintended consequences. Additionally, others may still interpret our words in ways we did not intend, but that's not a free pass for us to backtrack or redefine our statements. Overall, the responsibility lies with us to communicate effectively and considerately.

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