Ep. 62 - Wisdom Revisited with Dr. David Clayman

Our special guest today has a special story, incredible fortitude and a huge heart. In a moment, you are going to hear an interview that’s amazing … sad … hopeful … shocking. It’s a triumphant story. And a powerful testimony. So … If you are seeking inspiration. If you are searching for hope … you’ve come to the right place. This is a special 39-minute episode. Some stories simply cannot be contained in a 9-minute package.

Our wisdom conversation with Dawne Jacoby will leave you with the unmistakable feeling:  “I can do this. It doesn’t matter what bad things have happened to me … or what setbacks I have incurred. Those things do not define me — and they only hold me back if I allow it.”

Dawne was a former corporate executive, whose efforts were centered around growth, organizational change, relationships and development. She decided after multiple layoffs to lead with her faith and her heart to pursue her passion … to align with her purpose in this world - helping people. Today, in this special bonus episode, you will discover why Dawne Jacoby is one of the wisest people I know!

More About Our Guest

Dawne Jacoby is an author and the co-founder of Grit 2 Grace. In that role she provides transformational coaching and executive consulting, as well as keynote speaking. She is the co-host of the wonderful new podcast, “His & Her Life Hacks.” As Co-Founder of Grit2Grace, alongside her partner and fiancé, Larry Ambrose, Dawne helps people to identify and remove the limiting beliefs that hold them back - personally and professionally. Dawne helps clients uncover their true passion and strengths and creates a personalized plan so they can live the life they’ve always dreamed of.

Dawne joins us from her home in Philadelphia.

Resources

“His & Her Life Hacks Podcast” on YouTube or on Apple Podcasts

Grit 2 Grace on LinkedIn

Connect with Dawne on LinkedIn

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

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Episode Chapters

[0:03:44] - Common thread - podcasting

[0:04:48] - A Hallmark love story; how Dawne met Larry Ambrose (TMT102)

[0:06:49] - Getting to know Dawne through the eyes of others

[0:09:20] - Overcoming trauma to find purpose

[0:11:42] - An unconscious stage of life; living in survival mode

[0:14:30] - Leaning into her faith; Dawne discusses God’s plan for her life

[0:16:39] - Childhood wounds and generational patterns

[0:17:59] - Escaping abuse and finding love

[0:19:49] - The day things changed from emotional to physical abuse; leaving home

[0:24:18] - Dawne shares advice for other victims of trauma or abuse

[0:25:31] - Opportunity for you to get additional wisdom content & exclusive benefits

[0:26:40] - Dawne reveals her Main Thing; lessons from Dr. Wayne Dyer

[0:29:49] - Applications and examples of her main-thing wisdom

[0:31:55] - Embracing change through personal growth; Dawne’s journey to healing

[0:33:27] - Nuts & bolts of her transformation; not just mental but physical work too

[0:36:55] - Dawne is living testimony that change is possible; don’t lose hope

[0:37:42] - On the horizon, what lies ahead for Dawne

Welcome back to the Main Thing Podcast. I’m your host Skip Lineberg.

Our special guest, J.B. Chaykowsky, is a designer and creative who leads a globally dispersed design team for Intuit, the storied silicon valley fin-tech company.

When the aroma of fresh coffee beans became J.B.’s ritual for grounding his creative spirit, it was evident that his approach to design was intertwined with staying firmly in the moment. Our conversation takes you on a journey through J.B.’s philosophy, where the essence of being present is not only a practice but a testament to the rich tapestry of life as a designer at creative professional. We explore the profound 'why' behind every stroke of creativity and how it breathes life into his work.

There's something magical about the crossroads of fate and decision-making. As we unravel stories of pivotal changes, such as JB’s leap across the pond to London, we uncover how every choice carves a step closer to the person we yearn to become. Settle in and relax. Over the next nine minutes, you will discover why J.B. Chaykowsky is one of the wisest people I know.

More About Our Guest

J.B. Chaykowsky’s personal mission is to make technology more poetic. He enjoys traveling with his wife and son. J.B. is enamored with the intersection of people, technology, and philosophy.

J.B. joins us from his home in London.

Resources

J.B.’s personal website

Connect with J.B. on LinkedIn

Book recommended by J.B. in this episode:  Principles by Ray Dalio

Episode 94 featuring Pamela Kesling

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

Graphic Design + Social Media Chloe Lineberg

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Episode Chapters

[0:03:02] - The art and social fabric of coffee

[0:04:50] - J.B. takes us inside the creative life; being a design professional

[0:05:51] - How Skip and J.B. are connected

[0:06:26] - The power of every decision

[0:07:35] - J.B. reveals his Main Thing

[0:09:23] - Gleaning wisdom from Ray Dalio and Dwight Schrute

[0:13:12] - Recognizing the need for wisdom; living with intent

Welcome to the Main Thing Podcast! I’m your host Skip Lineberg.

Join us today for a wisdom-packed session with Parker Klein, the tech entrepreneur who's changing the game with his ingenious platform, Twos App.

Parker Klein, a San Diego native and Vanderbilt alum, sits down with me to share his journey from working with tech giants to bravely venturing into the world of startups. In our conversation, we unravel the threads of wisdom that have influenced Parker’s pursuit of improving how we remember and connect in our digital lives.

You’ll get an insider's look into how Parker's work with Qualcomm, Trustwork and Google has shaped his vision for Twos. Discover how his platform is not just an app, but a life-enhancing tool for productivity and memory.

Prior to co-founding Twos and launching the eponymous app, Parker developed four of his own applications, all designed to improve people's self-awareness and help them remember their lives. When not programming, Parker enjoys reading biographies and books on philosophy. He also loves walking and running on the Tampa Riverwalk.

Parker joins us today from Tampa, Florida.

Click in and get ready. Over the next 9 minutes, you will discover why Parker Klein is one of the wisest people I know.

Resources

Learn about Twos App - the best place to write things down

Download Twos from the App Store

Visit the Twos YouTube channel

Parker’s personal website

Episode 95 featuring Clay Davis

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

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Episode Chapters

[0:03:40] - Much to love about Tampa and the Tampa Riverwalk

[0:04:17] - Why our host Skip loves the Twos App

[0:05:40] - The inspiration that sparked Twos App

[0:07:50] - How we’re connected; Clay Davis

[0:08:48] - Find out how to unlock 17 add’l minutes of Parker’s wisdom

[0:09:48] - Parker shares his Main Thing

[0:11:56] - Absent this wisdom, Google might just stress you out

[0:12:33] - Can fear get in the way of our creativity?

Welcome back to The Main Thing Podcast. I’m your host Skip Lineberg, bringing you another dose of wisdom.

Listen in as Veronica Lewis, a beacon of optimism and avid adventurer of West Virginia's wilderness, joins us to share her profound journey towards personal equilibrium and mindfulness. We navigate through her transition from being swamped by life's hurdles to her pursuit of peace through stress management and the art of mindfulness. Veronica's transformative experience not only brought her happiness and harmony but also a sense of purpose. Our conversation further explores masculine and feminine energies, shedding light on how balance can influence our daily existence. Veronica's narrative is a powerful reminder of the significance of self-care and the relentless quest for wisdom in the face of life's trials.

Brief Bio for Our Wise Guest

Veronica Lewis has been involved in policy, politics, government and community affairs in various roles since 2012. She was recognized as one of West Virginia’s Generation Next 40 under 40, enjoys public speaking, and has a passion for exploring the outdoor gems of West Virginia. When she’s not chasing waterfalls and hiking, you can find Veronica working on her personal development through mindfulness training, or with a book in her hand. Veronica resides in Jackson County where she volunteers her time and invests in her community. 

Get ready over the next 9 minutes, you will discover why Veronica Lewis is one of the wisest people I know.

Resources

Connect with Veronica Lewis on LinkedIn.

Wonder and Grow website - providing mindful nature experiences

Book mentioned on this show - “The Obstacle is the Way” by Ryan Holiday

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

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Episode Chapters

[0:02:47] - Veronica’s love of West Virginia’s outdoor beauty

[0:03:37] - How we’re connected; Wonder and Grow

[0:04:53] - Veronica faced a challenge; her decision to change

[0:06:51] - Masculine and feminine energies; the importance of balance

[0:10:50] - Veronica shares her Main Thing

[0:12:15] - Recognizing the body’s distress signals; taking time for yourself

[0:13:53] - Trusting our intuition

Welcome to The Main Thing Podcast - and a very special year-end episode!Pressed for time and desperately needing to publish the final episode of 2023, our harried host, Skip Lineberg, takes you along on a grocery run. Podcasting from a moving vehicle is not recommended, by the way.

No sooner than Skip sets foot inside Wisdom Market, he encounters his good friend, Rachel Bell. The two embark on a brief shopping journey - together.  They’re not looking for bread, milk, eggs or coffee. What they are shopping for may surprise you!

Along their journey through Wisdom Market, Rachel and Skip share some favorite moments from Season Four. Their picks and faves include prior shows, as well as books discussed on the podcast. A surprise guest appears when they tussle with a cantankerous grocery store manager. Can you guess who plays this cameo role?

Brief Bio for Rachel Bell

Rachel Bell is a book publishing professional and startup founder who is on a mission to propel the book industry forward. She works with authors, distributors, printers and brands to elevate and amplify their stories.

Rachel is co-founder of Overcup Press, an award-winning independent publishing company. During the early stages of COVID-19, when the book industry faced supply chain and distributions issues, Rachel founded Printer’s Row, a business-to-business online marketplace. Her previous publishing experience includes Adweek Magazines and Pomegranate Communications. Rachel Bell is driven by the power of books to save us, give us a window into the larger world, and preserve humanity through storytelling. She joins us from Portland, Oregon.

Resources

Clyde Custom Publishing

Overcup Press

Our Curated Wisdom Book Collection on BookShop.org

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

Graphic Design Chloe Lineberg

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Episode Chapters

[0:00:01] - Shopping for Wisdom and Inspiration

[0:05:27] - Discoveries in Brain, Soul, Food

[0:21:57] - Book Recommendations and Grocery Shopping

[0:33:06] - Skip and Bob Discuss What’s Coming in 2024 on the Podcast

Welcome back to The Main Thing Podcast. Our special guest today is someone I’ve known for quite a while. He’s an incredibly resilient, strong and hope-filled person. Larry Ambrose was living the life of his dreams as a husband, father and corporate executive with GE when tragedy struck, and his wife suddenly passed away two months after giving birth to their eighth child.

By the grace of God and the help of a small army of a support system, he was able to stabilize and continue to raise his family and excel in his career.  But six years of trying to do it all eventually took its toll, and Larry was forced to take a leave of absence. A gut-wrenching and soul-searching process resulted in a new life mission statement for Larry. He made the decision to walk away from a company and career that he loved, to stay home and raise his children.

Today, with the goal of achieving a life of joy and now thriving again, Larry Ambrose is fulfilling his life’s mission completely. Larry and fiancée Dawne Jacoby have launched #Grit2Grace - a company designed to offer hope, inspiration, and real-world solutions to those who need it. Through their speaking, coaching, book writing and podcasting, they teach how faith, resilience and doing the hard work can help you get unstuck, find your true purpose, and live a life of joy.

Larry joins us today from his home in Philadelphia.

Get ready! Over the next 9 minutes, you will discover why Larry Ambrose is one of the wisest - and strongest - people I know.

Resources

“His and Her Life Hacks Podcast” on YouTube or on Apple Podcasts

Connect with Larry on LinkedIn

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

Graphic Design + Social Media Chloe Lineberg

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Episode Chapters

0:03:07 - Lifelong connections

0:05:13 - When tragedy struck

0:08:37 - Reaching the breaking point

0:10:53 - Crying out to God; transformation through faith and prayer

0:12:47 - Making a uncommon and crucial decision; gaining clarity

0:14:44 - A new path and new ventures; living into the new mission.

0:17:08 - Larry reveals his Main Thing wisdom

0:18:15 - The trouble with trying to dodge pain

Welcome to our Centennial show … the Hundo, number 100. An episode this special deserves a very special guest, and I have one for you. This guest is the youngest person ever to appear on our show. Despite his younger age, you will quickly discover that he is truly wise, thanks to his lived experience.

Sherman Lineberg is an 18-year-old, talented young man who has overcome serious adversity and challenges in his life, including a four-year journey through an autoimmune illness. He is courageous and resilient. He is my son.

Sherman is a recent high school graduate and part time student at Marshall University, where he is studying cyber forensic science. Sherman is a two time state champion in eSports, where he captained his high school squad. He's also a talented golfer and bowler. He's a gifted problem solver who's adept with electronic and mechanical repair. Sherman is presently working as a bowling alley mechanic.

He joins us today in person, here inside Parkwood Studios in Charleston, West Virginia.

Get ready, over the next 30 minutes in this special 100th episode, we will tee up some serious wisdom.

Resources

Contact Sherman on Discord: Splash313

Sherman’s functional medicine doctor - Kanodia MD website

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

Graphic Design Chloe Lineberg

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Episode Chapters

[0:00:01 - 0:04:30] - Intro, Welcome and Guest Bio; thoughts on being the son of a podcaster

[0:05:02 - 0:09:20] - Sherman’s four-year journey through an autoimmune illness; seeking and finding care

[0:09:21 - 0:12:25] - Holding onto hope; advice for others battling extended illnesses or challenges

[0:12:46 - 0:17:57] - Tapping into Sherman’s main-thing wisdom; the Hoover Dam - learning to release; applications of Sherman’s wisdom;  warning signs and pain points; faith in God

[0:17:58 - 0:22:45] - Looking ahead; new aspirations and hope; advice for parents whose child with an extended, invisible illness; Outro

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Welcome back to The Main Thing Podcast! Our special guest is a gifted leader who has run the HR programs from the C-suite of several of America’s most admired and successful corporations.

Tran Taylor has served as Upbound’s Executive Vice President — Chief Human Resources Officer since July 2021 and as the Chief Diversity Officer since May 2022. From 2008 through 2021, he served on the executive leadership team as the CHRO/CPO for Bumble, Mr. Cooper and Travelocity.

Tran has a track record of leading the Human Resources function, establishing human capital strategy and optimizing culture and people practices. From 2001 to 2008, he led the human resources function for global, retail-focused companies, such as Alliance Data and The Home Depot. He has led human resources integration for multiple merger and acquisition efforts and also served as a key enabler for several transformational change initiatives.

Tran earned both his Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees from West Virginia University and completed HR executive development certification from University of Michigan Business School. He joins us from Dallas, where he resides with his wife and three children.

Get set! Over the next 9 minutes you will discover why Tran Taylor is one of the wisest people I know.

Resources

Contact Tran Taylor on LinkedIn

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

Graphic Design + Social Media Chloe Lineberg

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Episode Chapters

[0:00:01 - 0:04:30] - Intro, Welcome and Guest Bio; the connection between Tran and Skip

[0:04:31 - 0:06:55] - Tran’s career; earning a seat in the C-suite; his mentors along the way

[0:06:56 - 0:08:17] - Leadership style; Tran’s competitive edge; developing others

[0:08:18 - 0:11:55] - Tran shares his Main Thing; applying this wisdom to navigate one’s career

[0:11:55 - 0:14:15] - Applying the finishing touches; seeking inspiration from Maya Angelou

Welcome back to The Main Thing Podcast!

Today you will meet Sheila Tully, someone who is not just redefining wisdom but also revolutionizing the way midlife women perceive and love their lives. A behavior change specialist, Sheila shares her insights gained from a rich career as a corporate executive and her current role as a coach and podcast host, on why this era belongs to wisdom and how women can step into a co-equal partnership with men. She unveils the layers of our brain's functioning that facilitate enduring change and a fulfilling life. Don't miss out on this enlightening discussion if you are ready to take life head-on, armed with wisdom and an invigorated spirit.

Sheila Tully has worked with hundreds of smart, midlife women, helping them to change in ways that have them loving their lives again. Sheila spent 25 years as a corporate executive and was the CEO and co-founder of the tableware company Ella Style.

Following an early retirement, Sheila pivoted to a new career in the emotional health space, as a practitioner of the work that had helped her get unstuck. She now teaches a fresh approach to understanding the nature of the brain in a way that makes any change you want to make in your life not only possible but permanent.

Sheila comes to us today from her home in Nashville.

Settle in and get ready - over the next 9 minutes, you will discover why Sheila Tully is one of the wisest people I know.

Resources

Check out Sheila’s website - sheilatully.com

Contact Sheila via email to:  sheila@sheilatully.com

Sheila’s podcast “Our Modern Emotional Lives” on Apple or Spotify

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

Graphic Design Chloe Lineberg

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Episode Chapters

(0:03:05) - Wisdom and Mental Health for Women

Sheila Tully helps midlife women change and gain wisdom to love their lives, leveraging knowledge of the brain for permanent change.

(0:11:15) - Embracing Challenges for Personal Growth

Sheila Tully and I discuss the importance of following our passions and how it can help us grow and challenge ourselves. We explore how mastering our minds and looking at challenges as growth opportunities can help us stabilize happiness and joy. We also discuss how feelings of inadequacy, fear, and anxiety come from our own thoughts and limiting beliefs.

(0:18:04) - A Meaningful and Valuable Conversation

We explore passions, purpose, taking action, and reflection to become our best selves.

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Our special guest Shawn Lesser has a powerful story. You’ll hear Shawn's story, along with his crucial wisdom in this special 20-minute bonus episode. As you listen, I encourage you to think about someone who might also need to hear this message. Be ready to share this episode, as it could help to save someone’s life.

Shawn Lesser is a seasoned finance professional and social entrepreneur, known for his work in impact investing and sustainable finance. He was previously the co-founder and Managing Partner at Big Path Capital, having played an instrumental role in shaping the firm's mission to catalyze the flow of capital towards sustainable and socially responsible investments.

In this new chapter of his life, Shawn is a mental health advocate and founder of THE REAL Mental Health Foundation. The organization’s mission is to build a global community around mental health. He is especially focused on men’s health, because he sees a big need to come alongside and support men and their families.

Born and raised in Brooklyn, Shawn comes to us today from Atlanta where he resides with his family.

Now, settle in and get ready in this special 20-minute episode you will discover why Shawn Lesser is one of the wisest people I know.

Resources

Shawn’s organization THE REAL Mental Health Foundation

Shawn Lesser on LinkedIn

Credits

Editor + Technical Advisor Bob Hotchkiss

Brand + Strategy Advisor Andy Malinoski

PR + Partnerships Advisor Rachel Bell

Graphic Design Chloe Lineberg

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Twitter @themainthingpod

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Episode Chapters

[0:04:40] - Shawn’s Story

Shawn shares his story of depression and how he hit a low point - a mental breakdown in December 2022. Shawn’s wife reached out to a friend from his past, Brent Herd, who was able to provide invaluable support. We discuss the importance of reaching out for help and how important it is to have a support system in place when dealing with mental health issues.

[0:12:23] - Learn about Shawn’s new organization THE REAL Mental Health Foundation

[0:15:40] - Special Message from Wonder & Grow

[0:17:00] - Shawn Reveals His Main-Thing Wisdom

[0:18:12] - Supporting Friends With Mental Health

We explore the warning signs of depression and mental health struggles. Shawn shares tips on how to support a friend who is struggling. Ultimately, we learn that it is important to check on our friends and loved ones, as it can be incredibly powerful, and it doesn’t have to be heavy or difficult.

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