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    Episode #111 ... The Frankfurt School pt. 4 - Eros

    enOctober 20, 2017

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    • The Frankfurt School's critique of capitalismThe Frankfurt School raises valid concerns about capitalism's impact on alienation and exploitation, but it's important to acknowledge improvements in living conditions and freedoms compared to historical systems. The debate underscores the complexity of understanding capitalism's role in modern society.

      The Frankfurt School's critique of capitalism raises valid concerns about alienation and exploitation, but it's important to acknowledge the significant improvements in living conditions and freedoms compared to historical economic systems. While some argue that the ruling versus exploited class dynamic is inherent in all functioning economic systems, others believe that progress and the alleviation of repression have been moving in the right direction since the feudal era. Ultimately, the debate highlights the complexity of understanding the role of capitalism in modern society and the need for ongoing dialogue and critical thinking.

    • Regulating Human Behavior and Nature for Economic SuccessEffective economic systems require regulation of human behavior and nature to harness benefits and function effectively, with the goal of creating prosperity for all.

      The control and regulation of nature and human behavior have been key factors in the development and success of advanced economic systems throughout history. This includes the establishment of political, economic, and ethical systems designed to regulate human behavior and harness the benefits of nature. While some may view this as exploitation or repression of human freedom, it may be necessary for these systems to function effectively. Freud's argument in "Civilization and Its Discontents" supports this idea, suggesting that certain aspects of individual human psychology necessitate a clear role and slight limitation of freedom for individuals in order to experience the benefits of an advanced economic system. The goal should be to make the life of the average person so prosperous and abundant that they do not feel exploited, but rather content with their role within the system.

    • Reason vs Instinct in Freud's WorkFreud's work highlighted the ongoing battle between instinctual drives and reason in human beings, emphasizing our unique ability to make conscious choices and reason, rather than being ruled by our passions.

      According to Herbert Marcuse, Freud's work in "Civilization and Its Discontents" emphasizes the constant struggle between instinctual drives and the capacity for reason in human beings. Freud believed that instincts, like the id, influence our behavior, but we don't always act on them. Instead, our rationality, or ego, can step in to make decisions that benefit us in the long run, rather than acting on our immediate desires. This idea of reason versus the passions is a common theme in ethics, dating back to Plato and Aristotle. By understanding this fundamental concept, we can appreciate how Freud's work influenced Marcuse's ideas about civilization and the role of repression in shaping human behavior. Essentially, what sets humans apart from animals is our ability to reason and make conscious choices, rather than being ruled by our instincts.

    • The Interconnection of Civilization and Human PsychologyCivilization is a collective agreement of rational individuals cooperating to maintain societal balance, with cultural rules and norms repressing instinctual behaviors harmful to society, reflecting internal psychological structures.

      Civilization and human psychology are deeply interconnected. According to Freud, human beings are rational animals, and when we remove rationality from the equation, we're left with mere animals. Civilization, therefore, is a collective agreement of a group of aware individuals coming together to reap the benefits of cooperation while also understanding the fragility of such a system. To maintain this delicate balance, societies establish cultural rules and norms that repress instinctual behaviors detrimental to societal functioning. For instance, covering one's mouth when sneezing or not taking advantage of resources in a civilized society are examples of these rules. In essence, these norms serve as a reflection of the internal psychological structures within individuals, governing their instinctual drives for the greater good of society.

    • The necessity and inequality of repression in civilizationMarcuse urges us to question culturally accepted practices and beliefs, as what is considered ethical may change over time and not all repression is equal.

      Civilization, as we know it, relies on the repression of certain human behaviors for societal function. Freud and Marcuse both agree on this point, but Marcuse raises the question of how much repression is necessary and whether all repression is created equal. Marcuse argues that cultural norms, which dictate what is acceptable and taboo, are historically determined and not necessarily based on ethical considerations. Therefore, what was acceptable in the past, such as slavery, may be seen as equally barbaric in the future. As individuals living in our current culture, we must ask ourselves if there are any practices or beliefs that we uphold that may be equally unethical, despite being culturally accepted. Marcuse's critique challenges us to consider the potential consequences of our actions and beliefs, and to strive for a more ethical and progressive society.

    • Understanding and controlling nature vs. liberating peopleThe Frankfurt School suggests combining traditional theory for societal improvement with critical theory to prevent excessive repression and ensure human freedom.

      According to the Frankfurt School, traditional theory, which aims to understand and control nature for the betterment of society, is necessary but can also lead to the repression of human freedom. Critical theory, which aims to liberate people from this necessary repression, is needed to prevent excessive repression and ensure human freedom. Traditional theory and critical theory should work together. Marcuse, a key figure in the Frankfurt School, acknowledges that some repression is necessary for society to function, but questions how much is too much and whether certain societal structures, like the economy, rely too heavily on extreme repression. Marcuse believed that cultural norms, such as the taboo on sexuality in the 1950s United States, should be constantly reevaluated to determine which ones still benefit society and which ones only repress people unnecessarily.

    • Technology challenging societal normsCritical theory encourages us to question societal norms and explore how technology can reduce unnecessary repression, such as in the realms of sexuality and work.

      Technology has allowed for the repression of certain instincts and cultural norms to be challenged. The example given was the taboo around sexuality in the 1950s United States, where the advancements in technology made it easier for people to control their reproductive abilities and led to the sexual liberation movement. Marcuse, a critical theorist, believed that it was our moral obligation to constantly scrutinize and question these cultural norms to prevent unnecessary repression in society. Another area where technology has the potential to reduce repression is in the realm of work and leisure, where the advancement of AI and machines could lead to a world where people have more free time and receive a universal basic income. However, Marcuse would encourage us to act on this potential now rather than waiting for a technological singularity. Overall, critical theory encourages us to challenge societal norms and consider the potential for technology to reduce unnecessary repression.

    • Questioning the Necessity of WorkMarcuse argues against societal pressure to work long hours, suggesting that individual happiness and freedom might be sacrificed for societal efficiency and progress.

      While technology has advanced to a point where machines could theoretically produce all that we need to survive, we continue to work long hours due to the manufacturing of false needs and societal pressure. Marcuse would argue that this repression, or requirement to work, is unnecessary and potentially harmful to individual happiness. The question then becomes, how much work is truly necessary before individuals can enjoy the benefits of capitalism? The current societal norm of a 40-hour workweek may not be the optimal solution, and alternative political platforms advocating for slower economic growth and more free time have been largely silenced. This situation mirrors Marcuse's concept of a totalitarian society, where individual freedom and happiness are sacrificed for the sake of societal efficiency and progress.

    • Monopoly capitalism as a new form of totalitarianismCapitalist society's evolution into monopoly capitalism co-opts opposition, turning it into profit, keeping people within the system through constant consumption

      According to Herbert A. Marcuse, the capitalist society in the West has evolved into a new form of totalitarianism, monopoly capitalism, where opposition to the status quo is co-opted and turned into a profit-making enterprise. This means that even those who criticize capitalism and long for change become consumers of capitalist products, such as books on Marxism, which ultimately keeps them within the system. Marcuse argues that this form of totalitarianism is more insidious and self-perpetuating than traditional forms, as there is no clear military coup or public uprising to overthrow it. Instead, it relies on the constant consumption of products to pacify people and keep them compliant with the system. In the next episode, we will explore Marcuse's proposed solution to this problem.

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