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    Episode 134 - Melinda Wenner Moyer: How to Raise Kids That Aren’t A-holes

    enAugust 24, 2021

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    • Impact of the pandemic on families goes beyond health concernsThe pandemic's indirect effects on families, such as emotional distress and challenges in parenting, are often underestimated.

      The pandemic's impact on families goes beyond just the immediate health concerns. The speaker's experience of his wife, a pediatrician, coming home exhausted and in PPE after treating COVID-positive patients, deeply affected their children. This incident highlighted the reality of the pandemic for them, and they realized their mother was at risk. This collision of personal and professional lives was tearful and emotional for the whole family. Additionally, the children's experiences at school during the pandemic added to their concerns. The speaker acknowledged the underestimated indirect effects of the pandemic on children and the challenges of parenting through these uncertain times.

    • Navigating Parenting in Unprecedented TimesAcknowledge fallibility, model healthy emotional expression, and provide a safe space for children to process emotions during the pandemic to help them grow into compassionate and empathetic individuals.

      The pandemic has challenged the traditional boundaries between professional and personal life, leading to increased vulnerability and emotional exposure for parents. This erosion of compartmentalization can be difficult for children to navigate, especially as they begin to understand that their parents are human and not superheroes. Melinda Wenner Moyer, author of "How to Raise Kids Who Aren't Assholes," offers science-based strategies for better parenting during these unprecedented times. It's important for parents to acknowledge their fallibility and model healthy emotional expression, while also providing a safe space for children to process their own emotions and experiences. The pandemic has brought new challenges to parenting, but with the right tools and mindset, we can help our kids grow into compassionate and empathetic individuals. You can find Melinda on Twitter @MelindaMoyerPhD, and be sure to check out her book for more insights on raising emotionally intelligent children.

    • Being kind leads to greater success and happinessKindness can lead to financial success and personal happiness, as shown in studies following children from kindergarten to adulthood

      Being kind and compassionate, rather than being an "asshole," can lead to greater success and happiness in life. Contrary to the common belief that success requires being arrogant or a go-getter, studies suggest that kind and generous individuals often make the most money and are less likely to face negative outcomes, such as spending time in prison. This idea is supported by research, including a study that followed boys from kindergarten to age 25 and found that the most kind boys made the most money. Additionally, research shows that being kind also leads to greater happiness. While there may not be a manual for parenting, the scientific evidence can provide valuable guidance for raising good humans. The research, although not perfectly controlled, offers compelling insights into effective parenting strategies, such as using induction as a form of discipline that ties children's actions to their effects on others. Despite the limitations, the abundance of research available on this topic is a pleasantly surprising resource for parents seeking to raise kind and successful children.

    • Communicating empathy and impact to childrenEffective communication and empathy help children understand actions' impact. In the digital age, intentional conversations are vital to fill gaps. Instilling motivation and grit is crucial for children's success and well-being, especially during challenging times.

      Effective communication and empathy are crucial in helping children understand the impact of their actions on others. The use of rationales and clear explanations can foster empathy and thoughtfulness. However, in today's digital age, where children spend more time online and may not see the immediate reactions to their actions, it's essential to have intentional conversations at home to help fill in the gaps. The author's book emphasizes the importance of instilling motivation and grit in children, which has become even more relevant in the context of the pandemic and its impact on individuals' health. The study mentioned earlier highlights the importance of grit in reducing burnout among medical residents. Overall, the conversation underscores the importance of parents and caregivers being intentional and proactive in helping children develop empathy, motivation, and grit.

    • Mindset and its impact on motivation and resilienceEmbracing a growth mindset, which focuses on effort and improvement, can lead to increased motivation, resilience, and ultimately, grit. Praise effort and link it to outcomes to help cultivate this mindset.

      The way we approach challenges and view our abilities can significantly impact our motivation and resilience, which are key components of grit. The fixed mindset, where we believe our abilities are innate and cannot be changed, can lead to fear of failure and avoidance of challenges. On the other hand, the growth mindset, which focuses on effort and improvement, allows us to view challenges as opportunities for growth and learning. The research by psychologist Carol Dweck shows that using growth mindset praise, which focuses on effort and improvement, can help children embrace challenges and view failures as learning experiences. This shift in mindset can lead to increased motivation, resilience, and ultimately, grit. By praising effort and linking it to outcomes, we can help cultivate a growth mindset in ourselves and our children, enabling us to face challenges with perseverance and a positive attitude.

    • Over-reliance on rewards can harm children's intrinsic motivationRewards can be beneficial but overuse can undermine children's enjoyment and motivation for an activity, leading to a need for balance and flexibility in their use.

      While rewards can be effective in motivating children to do certain tasks, over-reliance on rewards can undermine their intrinsic motivation and enjoyment for the activity. The research suggests that when rewards are given for things that children already find satisfying, it can create a sense of control and manipulation, leading to a pushback and potential decrease in interest in the activity. The speaker, who has written a book on the topic, shares her nuanced approach, acknowledging the benefits of rewards but also the importance of allowing children to experience the joy and satisfaction of doing things for their own sake. She emphasizes the need for balance and flexibility in using rewards, and the importance of recognizing that children are developing individuals who will not be perfect all the time.

    • Understanding Different Parenting StylesChildren thrive with parents who offer warmth, respect, and explanation for rules (authoritative parenting), while strict rules and punishment (authoritarian parenting) can hinder their development.

      There's no need for parents to feel guilty for not being perfect, as children can still thrive even if they don't follow every piece of research. The discussion also highlighted the distinction between different parenting styles, specifically authoritarian and authoritative parenting. Authoritarian parenting involves a clear hierarchy with strict rules and punishment, while authoritative parenting offers warmth, respect, and explanation for rules. Research suggests that children of authoritative parents fare the best, as they have the necessary boundaries and respect from their parents. It's essential for parents to understand these styles and aim for the middle ground to provide their children with the best possible upbringing.

    • Balancing respect and hierarchy for successful child-rearingRecognize gendered world, reinforce gender equality through language, actions, and role models to raise children who value equality and diversity

      Parents aiming to raise successful children should strive for a balance between respect and hierarchy. This approach, which can be seen in the dynamic between doctors and patients, is a middle ground between paternalism and shared decision making. However, implementing certain strategies in the book, such as discussing gender stereotypes and preventing sexist behavior, can be challenging for parents. These topics, which involve talking about sex, pornography, and race, are often uncomfortable for parents and require them to navigate sensitive and complex issues. The author's strategies for avoiding a sexist child include recognizing the gendered world children live in and constantly reinforcing gender equality through language, actions, and role models. Despite the challenges, these conversations are crucial for raising children who understand and value equality and diversity.

    • Parents can challenge gender stereotypesMinimize gender emphasis, use gender-neutral language, avoid gendered toys, encourage cross-gender friendships, and discuss sexism to help children understand and challenge gender disparities.

      Parents play a crucial role in challenging gender stereotypes and reducing the impact of gendered messages on their children. One strategy is to minimize the emphasis on gender in daily life by using gender-neutral language and avoiding gendered toys. This approach can help children understand that girls and boys are not inherently different and that abilities and interests are not determined by gender. Another effective method is to encourage cross-gender friendships, which can help children recognize the similarities between boys and girls. Lastly, discussing sexism and its impact on gender disparities with children can help them understand the societal causes of these disparities and inspire them to challenge them. By implementing these strategies, parents can contribute to creating a more equitable world for their children.

    • Having open conversations about societal issues with childrenEmpower children to understand societal hierarchies by acknowledging and explaining issues like sexism and racism, and actively work towards dismantling racism instead of just avoiding it.

      Having open conversations with children about issues like sexism and racism, rather than avoiding them, can empower them to understand and challenge societal hierarchies. Children are more astute than we give them credit for and they pick up on these issues whether we discuss them or not. By acknowledging and explaining these inequities, we can help children develop a critical understanding of the world and their place in it. Furthermore, not being racist is not the same as being antiracist. It's important to not only avoid perpetuating racist attitudes but also to actively work towards dismantling them. By normalizing conversations around these topics, we can help children recognize and challenge racism when they encounter it.

    • Address challenging situations with kids effectivelyTake a deep breath and address issues in the moment, use Ellen Satter's division of responsibility model for feeding kids to reduce pickiness and power struggles

      When it comes to dealing with challenging situations with our kids, such as addressing inappropriate behavior or getting them to try new foods, the harder but more effective approach is to take a deep breath and address the issue in the moment, rather than reacting impulsively or avoiding it altogether. In the case of getting kids to try new foods, the Ellen Satter's division of responsibility model suggests that parents provide the food and let kids decide how much to eat, creating a neutral and enjoyable eating environment. This approach has been shown to help kids become less picky and have fewer issues with food, as there is no pressure or power struggle around eating.

    • Use of behavior modification apps in schoolsWhile apps like ClassDojo can benefit some students, they may negatively impact others. Encourage conversations about appreciation and gratitude instead of relying on material rewards.

      The use of behavior modification apps in schools, such as ClassDojo, can have both individual and collective benefits and drawbacks. While some children may respond positively to the gamification of conduct and the reward system, others may feel shamed and pressured when points are taken away. This can negatively impact children who already struggle in school and create a reputation for them among their peers. Instead, it's recommended to have open conversations with relatives about limiting material gifts and teaching children the importance of appreciation and gratitude.

    • Understanding the effort behind a giftExpressing gratitude for thoughtful gestures strengthens relationships and fosters a kind community.

      Giving a gift involves a significant amount of thought, time, and effort from the giver. The process includes selecting an appropriate item, purchasing it with earned money, and wrapping it, which can be time-consuming and challenging. When we receive a gift, it's essential to appreciate the effort put in by the giver and express gratitude. This approach can help us understand the value of kindness and the importance of being respectful and considerate towards others. Melinda Wenner Moyer's book, "How to Raise a Smart Kid: Groundbreaking Research and Expert Advice for Nurturing Your Child's Intelligence, Creativity, and Emotional Development," explores various aspects of child development, including the significance of expressing gratitude and understanding the effort behind a gift. If you're interested in learning more about this topic and other essential parenting tips, you can find Melinda's book at any bookstore, Amazon, or independent bookstores. Additionally, her website, melindawennermoyer.com, offers a newsletter with science-based answers to parenting questions and purchase links for her book. Remember, being grateful for the thoughtful gestures of others and expressing appreciation is an essential part of building strong relationships and fostering a kind and considerate community.

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