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    Episode 153 - Tema Fodje and Josh McGough: Medical School

    enFebruary 07, 2022

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    • Memorial Day Discounts from Burrow Furniture and 1-800-FlowersBurrow Furniture offers discounts for Memorial Day and free shipping. 1-800-Flowers has up to 40% off for Mother's Day gifts.

      Burrow Furniture offers high-quality, durable outdoor furniture with free shipping, and they are currently offering discounts for Memorial Day. Noom is a weight loss app that provides personalized plans for users, even those who don't prefer salads, and typical users can expect to lose 1-2 pounds per week. For Mother's Day, 1-800-Flowers offers various gifts, including handmade bouquets, sweet treats, and gourmet food, with up to 40% off select items. Kaveh and Sophie shared stories from their past experiences, including Kaveh's COVID-19 diagnosis and recovery, and their memories of medical school, where they felt like outsiders but also formed close bonds with their peers.

    • Navigating Medical School Cliques: A Complex ExperienceMedical school can be isolating, with students forming cliques based on various factors. Some students may hide their academic focus, leading to misunderstandings. However, many find camaraderie and look back on their experience fondly.

      Medical school can be a challenging and isolating experience, with various groups of students forming cliques based on race, ethnicity, religion, and academic focus. The presence of "gunners," or highly driven students, was particularly notable, with some students adopting a false nonchalant attitude towards their studies while secretly working hard to excel. These "closet gunners" could be particularly deceiving, leading to misunderstandings and assumptions about others. Despite these challenges, many students found camaraderie and enjoyed their medical school experience, looking back on it fondly. However, it's important to remember that everyone's experience can be different, and it's essential to be understanding and supportive of each other's unique journeys.

    • Students share their experiences during medical schoolMedical students go through dedicated study periods and clerkships to gain hands-on experience and make informed career decisions.

      Medical school is a challenging experience, and the nature of the education evolves over time. Sophie shared a disturbing experience from her OBGYN rotation that left her with a negative impression of the field. However, she encourages everyone to follow the Association of Black Gastroenterologists and Hepatologists (ABGH) for updates on their work. Moving on, Tema and Josh, two young medical students, discussed their experiences. They are currently going through dedicated study periods for upcoming exams, which is an intensive time for medical students. Tema, in her third year, has had a rough go of it, especially during the pandemic. She had to take Step 1 twice and went through dedicated twice. Clerkships, which are six to twelve weeks where students experience different specialties, have been a highlight for her. Tema and Josh have not yet decided on their future specialties, but they are committed to making the most of their medical education journey. Clerkships allow students to gain hands-on experience in various fields, helping them make informed decisions about their careers.

    • Medical students' experiences during pandemic influence career choicesThe pandemic's impact on medical students' training led them to prefer outpatient care and long-term patient relationships in family medicine.

      The experiences and perspectives of medical students during the pandemic have significantly influenced their career choices and expectations. Both Tema and the speaker expressed their preferences for outpatient care and building long-term patient relationships in family medicine. However, the pandemic's impact on their training, including the shift to online learning and the difficulty of building connections with patients while wearing masks, added to their motivation to pursue this field. The unique challenges of training during a pandemic have left an indelible mark on their experiences and will likely shape their future identities as healthcare professionals.

    • The COVID-19 pandemic's impact on medical traineesThe pandemic highlighted the importance of appropriate fear, support, understanding, addressing health disparities, and building trust for medical trainees in their personal and professional growth.

      The COVID-19 pandemic presented unique challenges for medical trainees, leading to feelings of overwhelm and uncertainty. For some, like Temet, this experience strengthened their desire to enter family medicine, while others, like Josh, discovered a newfound appreciation for emergency medicine. Regardless of specialty choice, the pandemic highlighted the importance of appropriate levels of fear and the need for support and understanding among colleagues. It also underscored the importance of addressing health disparities and building trust between healthcare providers and communities, particularly in underserved areas. Overall, the pandemic served as a catalyst for personal and professional growth for many medical trainees.

    • Medical students reevaluate career goals during pandemicAmid pandemic, medical students find renewed purpose and passion, advocating for change and making positive impacts in their communities, inspiring others to do the same, even in challenging specialties like family practice.

      The pandemic has led many medical students to reevaluate their career goals and discover new passions within the field of medicine. This introspection has resulted in a renewed sense of purpose and urgency, with students using their future degrees to advocate for change and make a positive impact on their communities. This trend is inspiring not just fellow students, but also attending physicians and residents. Despite the challenges and stigmas associated with certain specialties like family practice, students continue to choose these paths due to their importance and potential for making a difference. The pandemic has highlighted the crucial role healthcare professionals play in society and the potential for positive change, even in the face of adversity.

    • Perceptions of medical specialties and stereotypesMedical students should focus on their interests and strengths, not conform to stereotypes. Medical education should foster a learning environment, not pit students against each other or make them uncomfortable.

      While the financial rewards of different medical specialties can vary greatly, for a family doctor earning $200,000, it is still a comfortable living. However, there is a perception that certain specialties, like ER medicine, attract specific types of people. This perception can sometimes be self-fulfilling, but there is also room for diversity within specialties. The stereotypes that exist in various medical fields can be limiting, and it's essential for medical students not to feel pressured to conform to them. Instead, they should focus on their interests and strengths. During the discussion, the speakers touched upon the idea that medical students often anchor too hard on these stereotypes and forget that there's room for expansion. For instance, gastroenterologists can be divided into two camps: proceduralists and those who are deeply knowledgeable about the liver. It's important to remember that medical education is not about pitting students against each other or putting them through rigorous questioning to make them feel uncomfortable (also known as "pimping"). Instead, it should be about growth and fostering a learning environment where students can explore their interests and ask questions. As future medical professionals, it's crucial to adopt a more compassionate and supportive approach.

    • Stay true to yourself in medical school applicationsFollow your passions, be informed about medical school curriculums, and remember the journey to medical school can be challenging but staying true to yourself can help you succeed.

      Following your passions is crucial when applying to medical school. The speakers emphasized the importance of staying true to yourself and focusing on what you enjoy, rather than feeling pressured to conform to a specific pre-med mold. Additionally, they suggested being informed about different medical school curriculums to help make an informed decision about which schools to apply to. The speakers also shared their regrets, with one wishing they had realized medical school was an option for them earlier and the other wishing they had focused solely on their own interests instead of trying to prove themselves to others. Ultimately, it's essential to remember that the journey to medical school can be challenging, and staying true to yourself and your passions can help you succeed.

    • Authenticity matters in medical fieldWhile academic achievements are crucial, being true to yourself and your interests can lead to a more fulfilling career and reduce stress in the medical field.

      While academic achievements are important in the medical field, they are not the only factors that matter when applying to schools or jobs. Employers and schools are also interested in your personality, interests, and authenticity. Being honest about your passions and priorities, even if they don't align with the traditional medical path, can lead to a more fulfilling career and reduce stress. Additionally, younger generations of doctors and medical students are becoming more vocal about issues in the healthcare system, and while not all feedback from older doctors may be supportive, it's important to continue advocating for change and progress.

    • Medical trainees' experiences on social mediaMedical trainees face diverse experiences on social media, from support to criticism. Growing up with the internet as a norm allows for more vocal expression, but privilege plays a role. Social media can foster community and support, and the medical field needs to be more outspoken. The current climate, though challenging, is necessary for change.

      The experiences of medical trainees on social media can vary greatly, with some encountering support and encouragement while others face criticism and dismissiveness. The speakers, who come from different backgrounds, noted that they have felt more vocal and less constrained due to growing up with the internet as a norm. However, they acknowledged the privilege that comes with their backgrounds and circumstances, such as having guaranteed residency or coming from families where medicine is highly valued. They also agreed that the medical field needs to be more outspoken and that social media can be a valuable tool for finding community and support. Despite the challenges, they believe that the current climate, although horrific, is necessary for driving change in the field.

    • Creating a welcoming environment for diverse medical applicantsThe medical field should focus on creating a welcoming environment, promoting diversity beyond numbers, retaining and promoting diverse talent, and amplifying diverse voices and perspectives.

      While the medical field is making strides towards diversity and inclusion, there is still work to be done. Some applicants from underrepresented backgrounds may face challenges during the application process but are valuable assets to the field. Representation and inclusion are important, but it's equally crucial to ensure that these individuals are supported and given opportunities to grow and advance. The medical community should focus on creating a welcoming environment and promoting diversity beyond just numbers. It's essential to hold institutions accountable for retaining and promoting diverse talent. Lastly, there are various ways to make a meaningful impact in the medical field beyond academia, and it's essential to amplify diverse voices and perspectives.

    • Passionate doctors share insights on career happiness and future opportunitiesDoctors Josh and Tema emphasized the importance of prioritizing personal happiness, being open to new opportunities, and the value of community and mentorship. They also highlighted the power of social media for sharing insights and experiences.

      The interviewees, Josh and Tema, are passionate about their careers in medicine and are excited about their futures. They emphasized the importance of prioritizing their own happiness and well-being, and being open to new opportunities beyond their current career paths. They also highlighted the importance of community and mentorship, and the value of using social media to share insights and experiences with others. Josh encouraged followers to find him on Twitter as @joshmagoo for a humorous take on medical education, while Tema, who goes by Tema Fudge on Twitter, can be found yelling into the void about medical education at @TemaFudge. The interviewees expressed their hope for the future of medicine and their commitment to shaping the next generation of healthcare professionals through their work and online presence. Overall, their positive attitudes and dedication to their fields make them promising leaders in their respective fields.

    • The Importance of Hard Work, Patience, and Ethical Manufacturing in Creative Endeavors and FashionHard work and patience are crucial for success, particularly in creative pursuits. Ethical manufacturing is essential in fashion, and Quince offers affordable, high-quality essentials produced responsibly. Pretty Litter is a health monitoring litter that can detect early signs of illness in cats, promoting their well-being.

      Hard work and patience are essential for achieving success, as discussed during the podcast. The speakers emphasized that not everyone can attain certain milestones immediately and that progress takes time. This is particularly relevant to creative endeavors, where the first steps can be both exciting and daunting. Additionally, the podcast featured several product recommendations, including Boll and Branch's organic cotton sheets and Pretty Litter, a health monitoring litter for cats. Both products offer unique benefits, such as getting softer with each wash and detecting early signs of illness, respectively. Another topic covered was the importance of ethical and responsible manufacturing in fashion, as highlighted by Quince. By offering high-quality essentials at affordable prices and partnering with factories that prioritize safe and ethical practices, Quince provides an accessible alternative to luxury brands. Lastly, the podcast emphasized the importance of taking care of pets' health and well-being, as illustrated by the story of Daniel and his late cat, Jinji. Pretty Litter, a veterinarian-developed health monitoring litter, can help detect early signs of illness and potentially save cats' lives. In conclusion, the podcast covered various topics, including the importance of hard work and patience, ethical manufacturing, and pet health. It offered valuable insights and recommendations for listeners, making it an engaging and informative listen.

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