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    Episode 9 - EN / Max Richter / utopia3 / FIFDH 2020

    frSeptember 18, 2020

    About this Episode

    9th episode of the utopia3 podcast with the Anglo-German neoclassical composer Max Richter

    The  Universal Declaration for Human Right is a faraway horizon, probably unattainable. Still, says Max Richter, we must find in it the energy and  inspiration to make progress. Richter is the author and composer of Sleep, Waltz with Bashir, Ad Astra, The Leftovers. utopia3 talked  with the Anglo-German neoclassic composer shortly after the release of  his ninth splendid opus, Voices. The latter is a work Richter conceived of ten years ago. We discussed about music as the instrument to question inequalities and injustice and perhaps as the tool to fight against them. 

    Max Richter has answered to this fundamental question: “What does it  mean to have the right?” (3’40). He wonders about the meaning of the  answer to this question for himself as well as for each of us. He  explains how, during is childhood his family could – freely – move from  the RFA to the UK (4’30). From this moment to approximately 10 years ago, when Max started working on Voices, he witnessed the slowing down of the progressive turn the world seemed to have engaged with (6’) and  the resurgence of xenophobia, extremism, etc. As a project voices  originated from the intuition that the world is not moving in what Max Richter thinks is the right direction and that views that 10 years would  not have been admissible seem now to be normalized (10’). Max Richter  sees in the UDHR an essentially imperfect document, created by imperfect human beings, more than 70 years ago. However, he claims, it still  represents an ideal worth being defended and even celebrated (11’). The composer explains how he inverted the proportions of the orchestra  instruments playing Voices with the purpose of giving hope despite  “darkness” (14’). This idea is also reflected in the titles of the composer’s opus, including “Hypocognition” (17’) and “Little Requiem” (18’25). Richter shares his conviction that creativity can influence politics (19’). In his view, it is important not to be caged as an artist so as to be able to communicate with other human beings (20’) and to create communities (23’). Lastly, Richter connects Voices with the artwork Trame (see the website www.utopia3.ch) as he considers both of these works as reflective spaces of the UDHR.

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    9eme épisode du podcast utopia3 avec le compositeur néoclassique anglo-allemand Max Richter. 

    Entretien en anglais. 

    La  Déclaration des Droits humains: un «horizon lointain, probablement  inatteignable, dans lequel nous devons néanmoins toujours puiser pour  progresser», selon MAX RICHTER (Sleep, Valse avec Bachir, Ad Astra, The  Leftovers, etc.). A l’occasion de la parution de son album Voices,  somptueux neuvième disque mûri durant dix ans, utopia3 s’est entretenu par téléphone avec le compositeur néoclassique anglo-allemand. Un  entretien où la musique s’envisage comme un outil capable de questionner et peut-être de faire reculer les inégalités.  

    Résumé:

    Max Richter répond à cette question fondamentale: «Qu’est-ce qu’avoir le droit» (3’40) et s’interroge sur le sens que cela revêt pour lui, comme pour tout individu. Il explique comment, durant son enfance, sa  famille a pu en toute liberté déménager d’Allemagne en Angleterre (4’30). Entre cette période de sa vie et le moment où il a commencé à  travailler sur l’album Voices, il y a une dizaine d’années, il a observé un revirement de la voie progressiste dans laquelle le monde paraissait engagée (6’) vers une flambée des déséquilibres sociétaux (xénophobie, extrémisme, etc.). Le projet de Voices est né de cette intuition: le monde n’avance pas dans la bonne direction et certaines positions qui  n’auraient pu être exprimées il y a encore peu se sont normalisées dans  certaines sphères (10’). Max Richter voit en la Déclaration universelle des Droits humains un document par essence imparfait, puisque crée par l’homme et marqué par son époque. C’est pourtant, juge-t-il, un idéal à  défendre et à célébrer (11’). Le compositeur nous explique comment il a inversé les proportions des instruments de l’orchestre dans Voices pour traduire la volonté au cœur de la Déclaration universelle des Droits humains: susciter l’espoir, malgré l’obscurité (14’). Cette idée est  développée par plusieurs titres de Voices, parmi lesquels «Hypocognition» (17’) et «Little Requiem» (18’25). Max Richter partage sa conviction que la créativité peut influencer la politique (19’). Pour  lui, ne pas être cloisonné en tant qu’artiste est un moyen pour parler aux gens (20’) et créer des «communautés» (23’). Enfin Max Richter  établit un lien entre Voices et l’œuvre artistique  Trame (présentée sur  www.utopia3.ch): deux créations proposant un espace de réflexion  similaire autour de la Déclaration universelle des Droits humains (24’).

    Cette première saison d’utopia3 a été produite en collaboration avec le FIFDH.

    Photo © Mike Terry / Universal Music

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    To donate to the Colibri center for Human Right and the Undocumented Migrants Project, please go to: https://www.undocumentedmigrationproject.org/ 

      

    Land of Open Graves by Jason De Leon : https://www.jasonpatrickdeleon.com/land-of-open-graves 

      


    Interviewer : Jonathan Matthew Schmitt 


    Editing : Martial Mingam 


    Photo : Courtesy of UCLA Anthropology Dept. 

     

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    Episode 17 - EN  / Alice Speri / utopia3

    17th episode of the utopia3 podcast with Alice Speri


    Interview in English.    


    Joining us to discuss her reporting the International Criminal Court’s recent decision on Afghanistan, as well as the ICC’s history, and the background of the the U.S.’s relationship with the court is journalist Alice Speri, whose work for the independent American news organization The Intercept has focused, in addition to the ICC, on civil and constitutional rights abuses by the U.S. government, and the how those abuses impact the United States’ role as proclaimed advocate and defender of international human rights.


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    Interviewer : Jonathan Matthew Schmitt 


    Editing : Martial Mingam 


    Photo : The Intercept

     

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    Episode 16 - EN / Christine Diindiisi McCleave / utopia3

    Episode 16 - EN / Christine Diindiisi McCleave / utopia3

    16th episode of the utopia3 podcast with Christine Diindiisi McCleave.  


    Interview in English.   


    Christine Diindiisi McCleave is the executive director of the National Native American Boarding School Healing Coalition, an NGO based in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA that is working closely with the U.S. Dept. of the Interior on the recently announced Federal Indian Boarding School Initiative.


    In the this interview, we will talk to Ms. Diindiisi McCleave about her own journey to the directorship of the National Native American Boarding School Coalition, the history of Indian boarding schools in the United States, goals and challenges of the Federal Indian Boarding School Initiative, the politics - and nomenclature  - of truth commissions, and how indigenous sovereignty intersects with human rights.


    More information :
    This past May, the discovery of the remains of 215 indigenous children in a mass grave near the former grounds of a residential Indian boarding school in the Canadian province of British Columbia brought the shameful history of the Canadian Indian Residential School system to international media attention. Less media attention, however, has been given to the history of the Indian residential school system in the United States. Throughout the 19th and well into the 20th centuries, both the U.S. and Canadian governments - in cooperation with the Catholic Church and other Christian denominations - perpetrated a deliberate policy of indigenous cultural genocide by frocibly removing indigneous children from their national homelands and placing them in boarding schools meant “civilize” and assimilate them into white society; to estrange them from their language and their culture; to, as Col. Henry Pratt, founder of the flagship federal Indian boarding school in Carlisle, Pennsylvania infamously put it: kill the Indian to save the man. 

    In June of this year, U.S. Secretary of the Interior Deb Haaland - the first indigenous cabinet secretary in United States’ history - announced a Federal Indian Boarding School Initiative, a comprehensive review of the troubled legacy of federal boarding school policies in the United States. 

    Instrumental to the federal initiative is Christine Diindiisi McCleave, the executive director of the National Native American Boarding School Healing Coalition, an NGO based in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA whose mission it has been since 2012 to lead in the pursuit of understanding and addressing the ongoing trauma created by the U.S. Indian Boarding School policy. As executive director of the coalition Diindiisi McCleave - who is a dual citizen of both the Ojibwe Turtle Mountain Nation in Minnesota and the United States - has petitioned both the US federal government and the United Nations to officially commence investigations into the history of Indian boarding schools in the United States, and is still working to pass legislation to convene a federal U.S. Truth and Healing Commission, based on the Canadian model, which would document the intergenerational effects of boarding schools through witness testimony.

     

    Interviewer : Jonathan Matthew Schmitt 


    Editing : Martial Mingam 

       

    www.utopia3.ch 


    Episode 15 - FR / Alain Damasio / utopia3 / FIFDH 2021

    Episode 15 - FR / Alain Damasio / utopia3 / FIFDH 2021

    15ème épisode du podcast utopia3 avec l'écrivain Alain Damasio

    utopia3 en collaboration avec FIFDH 2021

    ALAIN DAMASIO: «DEJOUER LE REGIME DE CONTRÔLE»

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    Davide Rodogno et David Brun-Lambert s’entretiennent avec Alain Damasio à la Bibliothèque de Genève (BGE) après un passage exceptionnel par ses archives où est conservé le manuscrit du Contrat social de Jean-Jacques Rousseau. (photo @ Miguel Bueno / FIFDH)

    utopia3:

    Interviewers: Davide Rodogno, David Brun-Lambert

    Réalisation: Martial Mingam 

    Avec la complicité de Julien Babel et Julie Noyelle

    www.utopia3.ch

    Coproducteur: FIFDH 2021 (www.fifdh.org)

    Remerciements:

    Marc Atallah, directeur de La Maison d’Ailleurs, Festival Numerik Games, Yverdon-les-Bains (www.ailleurs.ch)

    Frédéric Sardet, directeur de la BGE (www.bge-geneve.ch),

    Jorge Perez, Responsable d'Unité, Services au public, BGE, 

    Paule Hochuli, conservatrice des manuscrits et archives privées, BGE.