Fringe #8: The Princess and The Prince Discuss What's Real and What Is Not

The tough thing about the series finale of Lucifer is that we hate it, but we don't hate it. We leave our celestial characters, for the most part, grown and changed in an organic and positive way. Maze is finally her own person, Amenadiel has balanced humanity and divinity, Lucifer has devoted himself to helping others. Our humans are doing ok too. The bones are there, but the mechanism to get there sucks. Still, Lucifer is a fun and rewatchable show, mostly silly, sometimes touching, overall an enjoyable experience.

On this week's podcast, we're discussing Maze and Eve's wedding and Linda's new book. The first man shows up to put a wrench in the ladies' plans, but he's dispatched with ease. Ella reveals her knowledge to team celestial in a move that really, genuinely feels earned. Not earned? Literally every storyline with Rory. We don't WANT to dislike this character, but there is just nothing there. Give her likes! Dislikes! Relationships! Anything for us as viewers to hang on to. 

So, Chloe and Lucifer have a daughter. It's best if you don't question it, because the show is begging you not to. Lucifer and Chloe investigate the reasons Lucifer might take off and Lucifer later attempts to bond with Rory. In the second episode, A Lot Dirtier Than That, we revisit the racist cop from season 4, who is now a detective and has not changed his ways. Amenadiel and Harris stick their necks out to do the right thing for a young black woman, while Dan, Ella and Chloe consider their complacency.

This week on Lucifer, we're discussing season 6 episodes Yabba Dabba Do Me and Pin the Tail On the Daddy. Fair warning, the episode primarily focuses on the cartoons, hell loops and proper police procedure of the first episode and leaves Lucifer, Chloe and their maybe-daughter for a later episode discussion. Who can blame us, when the first ep contains one of the greatest things brought to a show? An Alias alum!

Must Be Tuesday is back to talk the last season of Lucifer--for real this time! These first two episodes serve mainly to summarize what happened in season 5 and to pull back and explore the developments of last season's finale. Is Lucifer God? Big fat no. Is Chloe his consultant? Also no. Is Maze queen of hell? Not so much. Dan's in hell? Not for long! And so on. There's a new big bad in town, but she's just a blip in these episodes so more on her next time.

This week MBT is busting out our questionable (and completely unspoiled) skills for Lucifer season 6. The main question is honestly: what will this season even be about? Are we really going to have god as a main character on a TV show? What would that even looks like? While we're on the subject, how would one even date god? All these questions and more discussed, plus the age-old Lucifer question: when will the season air? Who could know. 

This week MBT is talking Is This Really How It's Going To End?! and A Chance At a Happy Ending. Things get wild here at the end of Lucifer season 5: Michael takes down Dan (RIP buddy!), Chloe pulls her head out of her ass, Lucifer resets his priorities, Maze is cool with Eve dying and Linda/Ella/Amenadiel are around, too. Emotional episodes, good character work, satisfying ending. We nitpick, but Lucifer's a great show y'all. Cheers!

This week on MBT we're talking A Little Harmless Stalking and Nothing Lasts Forever. It grieves me to yadda over a Linda-centric ep, but unfortunately she takes a backseat to functional Deckerstar and the return of Eve! Missed that peppy original woman. Later, Lucifer decides he wants to be God and Maze the Queen of Hell. Nice to have goals! Chloe wouldn't know, she's quitting the LAPD, which, good, but also ... ? 

This week, Alli and Mary are discussing Lucifer season 5B's Resting Devil Face and Dan Espinoza: Naked and Afraid. First, God takes a page out of Lucifer's learn-from-humanity playbook and abandons his powers for a couple days. To his credit, he "gets it" much faster than Lucifer, and manages to fix most of his problems and relationships in one day. Good for you, God! Next up, we have one of the best filler eps in all of Lucifer featuring Dan and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day. Xander wishes he could be as great as Dan!

Alli and Mary are back to talk Lucifer season 5B! This week we're getting to know the source of all of Lucifer's problems (or is he?): God! We're talking episodes Family Dinner and Bloody Celestial Karaoke Jam. As everyone recovers from their 5A-related trauma, new trauma in the form of trauma waltzes right in. Team Celestial has daddy issues, Dan has oops-I-banged-god's-wife issues, Chloe has doormat issues and Maze has soul issues. Linda's just happy her baby is human and Ella remains in the dark. Onto the singing!