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    Episode 12 – Grief: God of All Comfort            

    Intro – grief patch story from:

    https://heidigoehmann.com/blog/loss-and-grief-grief-without-shame 

     

    2 Corinthians 1:3-5 (ESV)

     

    Psalm 10:14 (NIV)

     

    God is thoughtful about our grief and holds our grief with us.

    So we are: thoughtful about grief for one another, and we help one another hold the grief and the weight of that grief

     

    Psalm 34:17-18 (NIV)

     

    God of All Comfort = God of all losses

    Exercise: write down all the losses that you’ve encountered personally, or those you see around them, then write the word All or God or Jesus or a favorite Bible verse over it

    We have both – honor the losses and embrace the comfort

     

    God isn’t far off – He is big, but also personal

    Isaiah 53:3-4

     

     

    Jesus encountered his own grief and entered into other people’s grief

    Jesus took on the judgment of grief as well

     

    Biblical narratives of loss:

    Mary, Martha, Lazarus – loss of loved one, the experience of illness

    Mary and John and the crucifixion – comfort in one another, finding a community to morn with

    Joseph – loss of family, loss of freedom, loss of dreams, loss of promises, restoration

    David – loss of men in battle, loss of an infant, loss of a son to betrayal

    Solomon – Ecclesiastes, loss of time and opportunity, sense of hopelessness but comfort

    Ruth and Naomi – widowhood, loss of livelihood, loss through moving

     

    What loss narratives have given you comfort in Scripture?

     

    Luke 7:11-17  (NIV)

     

    Recent Episodes from Life in Relationship

    Frustration with Chris Kennedy

    Frustration with Chris Kennedy

    Special guest Chris Kennedy, Pastor and Author

    Chris’s book, Grace Under Pressure - https://amzn.to/3FBrdU2 (associate link)

     

    Proactive v reactive approach

    Proactive = investing in taking care of ourselves, our emotions, our whole selves to be able to live in the moment more authentically as ourselves and in what we value/believe

    Reactive = awareness of emotion when it comes up

     

    Tip 1 - Attend to and nurture

    The environment

    Relationships

    Internal needs

    Growth mindset – realist outlook + everything is redeemable

     

    Tip 2 – Hold the tension of love with your frustration or anger

     

    Tip 3 – Remember “more than they deserve”

    Tip 4 – Non-judgment – grace and truth with the understanding that God is judge, not me

    Tip 5 – Notice other people

    Tip 6 – values and faith as driver, emotion as information to process

    Shame

    Tip 7 – careful of pouring yourself out to the last drop, we are human

     

    The impact of shame and guilt on our internal processing of anger

    “Holding It Lightly” from dialectical behavior therapy

    The purpose of frustration and anger

     

    Happiness

    Happiness

    How do I find more happiness?

    Happiness is a momentary emotion, as all emotions are, time oriented, even as a mood

     

    Tip 1 - Look for happy moments, not a vague ongoing experience

     

    Defining – emotion related to joy, gladness, satisfaction, or wellbeing

    Related to confidence or satisfaction with a moment, a person, a situation

     

    Tip 2 – avoid all or nothing thinking

    Allow and acknowledge several emotions in your system at one time

    Value all the emotions

     

    Tip 3 – We’re ok v. Yay!

    Positive psych and researching the experience of happiness

    Hedonia and eudaimonia – pleasure v meaning

    Markers of happiness = relationships, purpose, meaning/gratitude/mindfulness, physical health

     

    Tip 4 – Don’t force it

     

    Tip 5 – Know your values to find your eudaimonia happiness

    Purpose and pleasure, skill and fulfillment

    DBT values word list available to subscribers at heidigoehmann.com in December

     

     

    Research:

    https://positivepsychology.com/predictors-of-happiness/

    Waterman, A. S. (2013). Eudaimonia: Contrasting two conceptions of happiness: Hedonia and eudaimonia. In J. J. Froh & A. C. Parks (Eds.), Activities for teaching positive psychology: A guide for instructors (pp. 29–34). American Psychological Association. https://doi.org/10.1037/14042-005

    Huta, V., Waterman, A.S. Eudaimonia and Its Distinction from Hedonia: Developing a Classification and Terminology for Understanding Conceptual and Operational Definitions. J Happiness Stud 15, 1425–1456 (2014). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10902-013-9485-0

    Anxiety

    Anxiety

    How do I tell the difference between my anxiety and my child’s?

     

    Attachment relationships are more connected for regulation

    The value of presence

    The detriment of sponging emotion

     

    Tip #1 – adults can bring the emotions to consciousness for kids

    Notice and name the emotion in the room

    Also helps us differentiate between my emotion and someone else

     

    Tip #2 – go out into nature/Creation to release some emotion

    Link to forest therapy info: https://www.natureandforesttherapy.earth/

     

    Tip #3 – know your own “stuff” (triggers, concerns, traumas)

     

    Tip #4 – do not assume an emotion, ask about an emotion

     

    Tip #5 – Be aware of triggers with no shame

    Practice accountability with kindness

    “I am uncomfortable. I want to hear what you have to say. I want to know what’s going on with you. The way it’s coming out is challenging for me.”

     

    Tip #6 – hold the duality of parental responsibility with deep parental love and connection

    Common questions: will they be ok? Will I mess them up? What am I missing?

    Give yourself space to learn and grow

    Try to help kids be unburdened by adult problems

     

    Tip # 7 – Maintain your connection with God

    Pouring out your emotions with God

    Resting with God

    Rhythms of prayer as emotionally regulating

    Hear God speaking to your emotions as a Gospel-oriented, invitation-to-relationship God

    Sadness

    Sadness

    How do I help my loved one when they are sad?

     

    Differences in sadness and sorrow definition

    relationship to distress and emotion regulation

     

    Elevated, heavy feelings – sadness, guilt, remorse/regret, powerlessness

    -       Time oriented, long suffering, pain taking time

    -       Death, change, trauma, heartbreak, injustice, loss, disappointment, bad luck, trouble

     

    Consider the moments when someone becomes aware of something challenging

    No fixing

    acknowledgement goes a long way

    let these emotions be a process

    let people’s emotions, including our own be complicated and layered

    let it be seen by God with someone

    invite that person into regular life things

      

    2 Corinthians 1:3-4, God of all comforts, God of all, but especially of comfort

    Psalm 18:6-8, God’s anger at what makes us sad or hurt

     

     

    Resources:

    https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/sorrow-an-acknowledgment

    https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/honoring-our-sorrow-sadness-amp-tears-a-scripture-list-for-lent

    https://www.kfuo.org/2020/01/20/coffee-hour-012020-no-shame-in-sadness/

    Zeal

    Zeal

    Listener question: How do I have a conversation with someone I disagree with when I feel passionately about something?

     

    Annoyed, accosted, attacked, or acknowledgment – honoring people’s passions while setting our own boundaries

     

    Tip 1 – root around your belief systems and consider how it impacts people

     

    Tip 2 – use words to state our emotions as well as our thoughts

     

    Define Zeal

    -       great energy or enthusiasm for a cause of goal (google)

    -       eagerness and ardent interest in something (webster)

    -       fervor, determination, combined with kindness equalling great devotion (urban dictionary)

    -       related to passion that is hard to govern

     

    Tip 3 - What is the love within this? What is the fear within this?

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    Tip 4 – reserve zeal for injustice to give power to the marginalized

    Tip 5 – hate doesn’t help

    -       Ted Lasso – Be curious, not judgmental

     

     

    Tip 6 – You can have boundaries

    Opt out of conversations – place for avoidance and distraction, change of focus

    Opt of relationships – what relationships in our life hold zeal in health and which are overwhelming

    Boundaries with your own emotions

     

    Resources:

    Atlas of the Heart - https://amzn.to/46uBrRD

    Subsribe to heidigoehmann.com for more.

    Empathy with Boundaries

    Empathy with Boundaries

    Listener question: How do I have both empathy and boundaries?

    Article on empathy and boundaries at heidigoehmann.com - https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/the-savior-complex-empathy-without-boundaries

     The difference between “hey, hold my emotions” and “withness”

    Cognitive empathy:

    Do they need us to see their perspective? Listen and ask questions about what they are thinking and how they see the world and their current experience. 

    Emotional empathy:

    Do they need us to see their feelings? Listen and ask questions that help them name their emotions and give a space to honor them without judgment. 

    Boundary #1 – self-differentiation

    Boundary #2 – no drama making, honor the degrees of separation

    Boundary #3 - know your lens: perspective, bias, and assumptions

    Boundary #4 – empathy doesn’t fix people

    Boundary #5 – know your bandwidth 

    Boundary #6 – be yourself in your kind and compassionate clothing

    Boundary #7 – recognize all of our capacity for suffering

     

    Mental Health Tool - Gut check practice

    Series on empathy at heidigoehmann.com -

    https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/igniting-empathy-inside-of-me

    https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/how-do-we-talk-with-empathy

    https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/bringing-empathy-to-social-media

    Pleasure

    Pleasure

    How do I get more pleasure in my life and relationships?

    Getting past the word pleasure - Culture and church cringy word, kind of awkward, vaguely sexual 

    Pleasure definition = enjoyment, satisfaction

    1 - Look for pleasure to be relationship focused

    2 - ask deeper questions about pleasure

    3 - pleasure in balance with other emotions

    4 - noticing skills

     

    3 stages of pleasure:

    Wanting – expectation/anticipation, pursuit/drive

    Liking – sensation experience of pleasure, hedonistic hotspots in the brain

    Learning – brain updating information, making future predictions; brain begins linking neurotransmitters that were harder to link before

     

     

    Resources:

    Altogether Beautiful video on expanding our understanding of pleasure

    45 sec Preview: https://youtu.be/902FvFLwbA0?si=P8irRsjz0AH2ZQXj

    https://vimeo.com/ondemand/altogetherbeautiful/260826340

    https://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/2004/11/berridge

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/between-cultures/202107/the-new-neuroscience-pleasure

    Season 6 Trailer

    Season 6 Trailer

    Welcome back! The Life in Relationship Podcast answers one relationship question in each episode. We are looking forward to sharing Season 6 with you.

    This season we are answering relationship questions all about Emotions to celebrate Heidi's book release of Emotions & the Gospel: Created for Connection. Emotions covered include: pleasure, anxiety, happiness, sadness & sorrow, frustration, zeal, and empathy.

    Join us for episodes dropping in September. Submit your relationship questions at lifeinrelationshippodcast@gmail.com. See you soon!

    Breaking Up & Moving On

    Breaking Up & Moving On
    Topic: Topic: How do you break up well?How do I know it’s healthy to start dating again after a divorce or breakup?

     

    • The weightiness of breakups
    • Reminding us of our need as humans for intimacy
    • There are ways to do break ups “better”, but no way to do it “easy”

     

    Keep it classy, kind, and clear

    • Break ups are in a moment, but the work of a break up is long term
    • face to face universally preferred in the research
    • What do you need and what needs healing?
    • Find your support people
    • Consider the impact on relationships beyond yourself

     

    Allow for emotions

    • Give opportunity to process for yourself and your break up partner
    • let complex emotions be there, just listen and then move forward
    • Own what needs to be owned, don’t own what isn’t yours
    • Dave’s wisdom = “It’s not you, it’s us.”
    • space before friendship
    • Happier music video: https://youtu.be/m7Bc3pLyij0

     

    Give yourself time and space for the grief

    • Set needed boundaries
    • Homeostasis, getting to normalcy and comfort
    • Pay attention to your internal dialogue and engage in healthy and aware self-talk
    • A good time to engage in your spiritual life for foundation safety/comfort
    • Space in communication
    • disenfranchised grief and awareness of the stages of grief
    • markers for “moving on”

     

    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338013/

    Necessary Endings: https://amzn.to/3PD8Q4Q

    Short answer: Keep it classy and give yourself time.

     

     

    Taking Care of Your Partner with the Arrival of Baby

    Taking Care of Your Partner with the Arrival of Baby
    How do partners take care of each other when they have a baby?

     

    1 – Learn together, about baby and each other

    What are your unique challenges?

     

    Gender role complications

    Awareness of shifts and changes with each baby

    Embrace flexible curiosity

    Make space and room for letting the baggage come out

     

     

    2 – hold the good and bad together for and with another

    Acknowledge the impossibility of the unpredictable nature of parenting

     

    Some common anxieties:

    • Exhaustion
    • Anxiety about infant or just life
    • Changes in other relationships (boundaries with others)
    • What support is available
    • Physical touch and sensory overload
    • Uncertainty of needs – other and within self
    • Communicating about something so new
    • Losing who I am outside of parenting

     

     

    3 – Notice where your partner needs and respond to each other with grace

    • Hormone changes and adjustment for both partners
    • sleep deprivation messes with you
    • validate and offer small touches to ground partner
    • notice mess and mindfully notice joy
    • Caring for each other outside of motherhood and fatherhood
    • Caring for each other by splitting duties

    household chores episode – https://ilovemyshepherd.libsyn.com/household-chores

     

    4– help one another remember yourselves outside of parenting

    • remember it’s a season
    • go out and make nice moments happen when you stay in
    • get to know baby and let baby get to know you - acclimate to baby, but also let baby acclimate to you

     

     

    Resources:

    Gottman Bringing Up Baby course -  https://www.gottman.com/blog/bringing-baby-home-the-research/

    And Baby Makes Three - https://amzn.to/3B79iBj (affiliate link)

     

     

    Short answer: Plan for the unplannable and watch yourself grow.